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You made me think of a funny story, I have a flintknapping buddy who was TDY in Iraq and all of his communications would get screened due to the sensitive position he was in. I sent him an email stating how us guys really missed him when we were all knapping together after cooking up some rock. lol I laid it on pretty thick, that was better than sending a blow up doll or subscription to playgirl lol.flintknapping... damn... I only do the napping part.
I was looking up at the sky tonight I watched a metiorite burn into the horizon, it reminded me of my adopted grandfater who's name I can't say only that he was a chief of the Northern Aztec Tribe, I didn't even know that until after his death which demonstrates how humble of a man he was.
During the 3 months each year, up until he nolonger came, he helped me to become a better knapper, and in that some things bridge over to not just cannabis but other plants for man as well.
Those meteorites, sparking stories, legends told from father to a son, uncle to a nephew, back through time, science now has a name for what could not be seen falling from the meteorites as they flew by. That star dust is Ammonium nitrate falling to the earth, but how did our ancestors know that the building blocks for plants on earth came from the stars?
Once that building block of life settles on the land, enzymes start working to break it down into another form of nitrogen, the form I prefer.
So that led me to think of Obsidian, so revered by the aztec, the symbol of water. The turtle a symbol of water as well. How did the Aztec and other ancient ancestors know obsidian is part water? So this poses a question about silica, perhaps I'm just high lol but I don't think all silicates are all the same to plants? Not saying they are harmful, but I wonder if Obsidian is more effective? I don't have an opinion one way or another.
Obsidian is the sharpest thing known to man, window glass is not because it is not as flexible and strong as volcanic glass, certain things also need to happen during an eruption for obsidian to be created or it just turns into Ryolite or basalt.. If you were to look under magnified time laps photography you would see an explosion of obsidians silica dust when creating a spawl (mullusk shaped large flake struck from a core, to make arrowheads out of) you would see it flex and bend like a wing of an airplane.
If you look at a spawl it resembles a mollusk shell, when you start sculpting (the first technical artistic sculpture man may have done) that down flake by flake creating an arrowhead. If you were to pick up and examine the smaller flakes on the ground you would see they are smaller and smaller mollusk shells, Scientists call them bulbous fractures or concoidial fractures.
So this leads to my question of those microscopic mollusk shells that you can no longer see, now light enough floating in the air to eventually settle down like the space dust. So I wonder if obsidian is preferred by Cannabis, and if different sources of silica matter, kinda like purity of salts.
I can't obviously tell you whether or not you're right or even on the right track with your thinking but I can tell you that it's this forward and outside of the box thinking that reminds me of Michael Pollen in Botany of Desire saying that herb growers are some of the best gardeners of our generation. It always makes me happy to see someone trying something new.
I dont know if giving MMJ plants high levels of Silica is good or bad in the long term or the effects of differing silica, IDK. An example is that plants are adapting to higher Co2 environmental levels by decreasing their stomata.
So the question I ask myself is that if we keep increasing Co2, silica, ect. by artificial means to increase yealds, are we, in the long run, doing harm to plant genetics? Another outside of the box thinking is that plants adapt genetically which I have always had the opinion. (ScienceDaily (Jan. 31, 2011) — A Purdue University scientist has found genetic evidence of how some plants adapt to live in unfavorable conditions, a finding he believes could one day be used to help food crops survive in new or changing environments.)
The plants are imprinting environmental information to genetics for some reason, we think they love the extra CO2, but do they? Same with DO, plants need relatively low DO but if we were able to do inject it in an IV, we would lol.. I'm a hydro guy but I see the value in what Organic farmers do in keeping things traditional, and those thinking outside the box, it just needs to stay safe. I also see the value in Scientific manipulations, but at what cost to the gene pool in the long term?
You know Kola I still wonder what kinda shit china was putting in their drywall that eats pictures and wiring. lol, need to ph that shit LMAO Hell I think they are trying to kill us along with our pets and offgassing our plants too lol..Good stuff! thanks.
I think silica is also in cement, mortar mix, stucco, grout, etc.
I'd love to see some pictures of your arrowheads. It truly is an art.
AWESOME thoughts. And you're absolutely right. we're altering the gene pool by breeding plants in indoor environments, truly a botany of desire (i fucking love that book, i've bought so many copies b/c i keep giving it away...)
I doubt giving optimal co2 amounts or increased silica amounts indoors will do anything but allow amazing sexual health (big flowers) and better genetic diversity b/c of the comfortable conditions. Especially if you're going organic..
Thanks for the insight Squiggly,The type of silica that is damaging to the lungs is SiO2, this is essentially what sand is made of--and diatomaceous earth is also made of this primarily.
This stuff can be itchy and cause all kinds of respiratory issues--because it is is incredibly sharp, and the particle size is incredibly small.
The liquid form of SiO2 is SOLUBLE, which SiO2 is not (sand doesn't dissolve)--and so they are in different chemical states. Most soluble silica compounds are silicon hydroxides.
These cannot be transferred into the air unless their chemical forms are changed--which is unlikely to happen in your res or watering pot.
Thanks for the insight Squiggly,
Changes as in evaporation on the side of the bottle, rags ect? How does a plant uptake silica in nature without some Hydroxodes?
Interesting, so the hydroxide will not evaporate leaving behind silica? how many microns does obsidian go down to, i cant remember but you need a electron microsocpe to see the end of a blade, making it the sharpest thing known to man.
http://www.ehow.com/how_6572721_make-sodium-silicate-silica.html
Also as I stated about obsidian, as all silicates are not the same, it's powder is so fine it will go through your protective mask.. So, if it becomes so fine would it not be able to be uptaken or simply push it's way through the plant walls the way it pushes it's way into our poors?
I'll check up on some university hydro research I was reading the other day about silica and plan uptake.
You've got me thinking now, what if in nature it collects around the base of the plant from water runoff or simply passes through floating on air during gas exchange? Think about the charge it would stick to water vapor then fall as rain striking the plant, working it's way through, creating scar tissue, strengthening the plant walls.
So if I can make sodium silicate from silica, that wouldn't be to good because it was a sodium source (I was just using it as an example that it was made from silica), wouldn't I be able to make my own silicon hydroxide out of silica in the same manner, and throw in some potash to boot? I see a business venture here squiggley, you and I could become the next AN of silica lol Then we could RULE THE WORLD, Damn I'm probably Pinky and you the Brain. lol Thats who I always think of when I see your avitar, is pinky and the brain. lol
Also, I don't know that you've got that precisely true--the electron microscope itself likely possesses the sharpest tip known to man (as many of them go down to a single atom at the tip).
Yeah your right about the electron microscope, but a blade made of obsidian is so small and still has room to fracture even farther IMHO.
Source:http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-161956.html
jhguth
Jan12-12, 06:25 PM
Hello there,
In my biophysics research days at UC Berkeley, I was trained to use a transmission electron microscope and to prepare biological specimens for that technique. The ultramicrotome is the thinnest sectioning instrument that I have used, producing ultrathin sections of epoxy-embedded cellular microstructures that are only a few molecules thick. It can cut even down to a single molecule thick though that was too thin for our purposes. It used either commercially produced diamond knives which lasted a long time but were horrendously expensive or we could prepare our own glass knives with a special tool used to break thick glass pieces in a predetermined way. Those edges were actually the sharpest that could be made but would have a limited lifespan before needing replacement. My answer to you is that glass actually fractures conchoidally into the sharpest edges around.
danwood
Feb8-12, 09:23 PM
I would guess Obsidian. Surgical knives made of this high carbon material can produce an edge as sharp as 3 nanometer - and still not show any serration!
turbo
Feb9-12, 01:40 AM
Obsidian rules. You can try all kinds of tricks with glass/metal, etc, but still there are some natural materials that just can't be equaled.
Perhaps that natural way into a plant is by physics and not chemistry? of course for safety reasons I doubt we would not want to experiment in home, ill say one thing i'm going to start making me some tumbled obsidian to try in buckets as medium, it will be beautiful as well. You should see obsidian glistening when wet. I've been thinking of it for a while looking at piles that scientists call Debatage, it aint trash to me. One last funny story. I don't dump debatage in trash like copper knappers for reasons of tradition.
I bury it or leave it where I knapp, well my last residence I owned, I disclosed to them that I burred obsidian, flint, basalt, navoculite, and other knapables in the yard as I was a knapper. Well they just loved to hear that, well lets just say they will have a hard time on a tiller when they hit some of those pits lol.. One mans debatage is another mans MJ medium lol
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