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Adding nutrients to RDWC question.

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Ok. I wont have to ph after the mag sulfate?
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Yes sorry always ph after silica and after mixing everything... always ph last.
 
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Ok. I wont have to ph after the mag sulfate?
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Epsom salt is ph neutral, it shouldn't affect your ph.
 
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If using cal + mag why also use Epsom? I thought Epsom was an alternative to cal mag supplement.

I've obviously never used Epsom salt or silica have never thought I needed to but now I'm wondering if my great bud could be better?
 
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If using cal + mag why also use Epsom? I thought Epsom was an alternative to cal mag supplement.

I've obviously never used Epsom salt or silica have never thought I needed to but now I'm wondering if my great bud could be better?
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So most nutrients have more than adequate calcium and so does most tap water. The issue is under LED plants will use up more Ca, Mg, potassium. this is generally more die to spectrum not the light source. Now cal mag is usually in a ratio close to 5 to 1 CA to Mg. Tap water is usually like 10 to 1 and most ferts high is cal but lacking in Mg. Ideally we want 2-3 to 1 Ca to Mg. So we add epsom salt which is Mg Sulfate no calcium to bring the ratios to a more favorable point

I like N at about 100-120ppm then do the ratios so N to K is 1 to 1.5, K to Ca is aboit 2 to 1, Ca to Mg is 2 to 1 and P is half of Mg. By adjust based on N its easy to see by plant response and when we reduce N we want to reduce all by the same amount to keep the same ratios. Basically what I saying is most ferts Ca to Mg ratios need adjusting for best results.
 
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If using cal + mag why also use Epsom? I thought Epsom was an alternative to cal mag supplement.

I've obviously never used Epsom salt or silica have never thought I needed to but now I'm wondering if my great bud could be better?
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Nor have i. I've only used epsom as a spray .
 
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Nor have i. I've only used epsom as a spray .
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Always an option i just prefer to feed through the roots unless addressing a deficiency where I need faster uptake. I seen many ppl mess up thier plants Soni dont usually recommend spraying but if done right can be great.
 
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Always an option i just prefer to feed through the roots unless addressing a deficiency where I need faster uptake. I seen many ppl mess up thier plants Soni dont usually recommend spraying but if done right can be great.
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I always seem to be playing catch-up thinking i to should be adding it before hand
 
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I always seem to be playing catch-up thinking i to should be adding it before hand
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Mg is one of those things I think is very common issue these days. Not all ferts have this issue but plenty seem to.
 
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Ok I think I am starting to understand. But wouldn't the other supplements like the silica cal-mag hydroguard and the epsom make the ppm to high, if I stick with the directions. I looked in to what the ppm should be and get all kinds of different result but found something that says i should go for about 100ppm form start and increase by 100ppm every week until finish. Another thing is that my ppm meter has 2 scales a 500ppm and a 700ppm also has ec setting.
 
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Ok I think I am starting to understand. But wouldn't the other supplements like the silica cal-mag hydroguard and the epsom make the ppm to high, if I stick with the directions. I looked in to what the ppm should be and get all kinds of different result but found something that says i should go for about 100ppm form start and increase by 100ppm every week until finish. Another thing is that my ppm meter has 2 scales a 500ppm and a 700ppm also has ec setting.
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Depends on what your adding. Ratios are most important then the ppm is adjust based on response to nitrogen. Typically how its done.
 
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Ok I think I am starting to understand. But wouldn't the other supplements like the silica cal-mag hydroguard and the epsom make the ppm to high, if I stick with the directions. I looked in to what the ppm should be and get all kinds of different result but found something that says i should go for about 100ppm form start and increase by 100ppm every week until finish. Another thing is that my ppm meter has 2 scales a 500ppm and a 700ppm also has ec setting.
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I think you're using gh trio? If that's correct then they use the 500 scale. Ppm is converted from ec electric current. It's just 2 ways to read the same information.
 
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Ok I think I am starting to understand. But wouldn't the other supplements like the silica cal-mag hydroguard and the epsom make the ppm to high, if I stick with the directions. I looked in to what the ppm should be and get all kinds of different result but found something that says i should go for about 100ppm form start and increase by 100ppm every week until finish. Another thing is that my ppm meter has 2 scales a 500ppm and a 700ppm also has ec setting.
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Hydro guard shouldn’t adjust PH or PPM/EC or at least last I knew.
 
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This is the what I am thinking about running. And to adjust the ppm would i just add a little bit more of each?
 
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This is the what I am thinking about running. And to adjust the ppm would i just add a little bit more of each?
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Hey I know that chart it’s off I heart growing marry lol, that chart take notice is allready reduce amounts from the actually feed chart. I know only because week4 GH says 7.5ml on each that chart does 5ml
 
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This is the what I am thinking about running. And to adjust the ppm would i just add a little bit more of each?
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I follow the gh schedule. But I usually go light, well always go light, I only mix for 8 gallons of water even though I'm using 10 so 80% strength.
 

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This is the what I am thinking about running. And to adjust the ppm would i just add a little bit more of each?
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Now I will say that with autos this schedule is more of a rough guideline. Kinda have to go by looks of the plant and adjust the nutrient amounts accordingly. I started flowering at 33 days I think and skipped ahead to that stage of feeding. This is just what I have done. I'm not sure if it was the right approach but it made sense to me.
 
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That chart should be fine.
 
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ok so just use that and if i start getting burn back it off a litte and if i get deficiencies bump it up a little and the ppm should fall into place
 
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