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IMO this is just another way to drug our kids. Just think how much profit can be made by prescribing Ritlan and other drugs to 1 in 10 kids..

I know of a family who gives their son Vape hits and the results are amazing.
1 or 2 vapes before school, lunch time and after school, controls his behavior way better than Ritlan.
The dose is controlled and the kid does not get baked, it mellows him out and he functions way better on mj than ritlan.

THURSDAY, Aug. 18 (HealthDay News) — Over the last decade, an increasing number of American children have been diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), a new government survey reveals.

Researchers from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that between 2007 and 2009, an average of 9 percent of children between the ages of 5 and 17 were diagnosed with the disorder. This compared with just under 7 percent between 1998 and 2000.

The survey also indicated that previously notable racial differences in ADHD incidence rates have narrowed considerably since the turn of the millennium, with prevalence now comparable among whites, blacks and some Hispanic groups.

"We don't have the data to say for certain what explains these patterns, but I would caution against concluding that what we have here is a real increase in the occurrence of this condition," stressed study author Dr. Lara J. Akinbami, a medical officer with the National Center for Health Statistics. The findings appear in an Aug. 18 report from the agency.

"In fact, it would be hard for me to argue that what we see here is a true change in prevalence," Akinbami added. "Instead, I would say that most probably what we found has a lot to do with better access to health care among a broader group of children, and doctors who have become more and more familiar with this condition and now have better tools to screen for it. So, this is probably about better screening, rather than a real increase, and that means we may continue to see this pattern unfold."

According to the National Institutes of Health, ADHD is the most common behavioral disorder among children.

Children with ADHD are apt to have problems staying focused, and often suffer learning and behavioral problems as a result of a tendency to engage in hyperactive and/or impulsive behaviors.

The new survey was conducted by interviewers from the U.S. Census Bureau through face-to-face and telephone interviews involving a nationally representative group of parents. Basic family demographic information was collected, along with the ADHD status of each household's children.

Although rates rose among both boys and girls, a greater percentage of boys were diagnosed with ADHD overall, rising from roughly 10 percent in 1998-2000 to more than 12 percent between 2007 and 2009. Across the same time frame, the prevalence rate among girls rose from just below 4 percent to between 5 percent and 6 percent.

One group, however, appeared to buck the trend: Mexican children. This group consistently registered the lowest ADHD prevalence rate, both in 1998-2000 as well as a decade later in 2007-2009. Akinbami said the reason for this remains unclear, although she suggested that less access to health care and/or particular cultural proclivities might contribute to fewer diagnoses overall.

In addition to the principal findings, the authors were also able to track both financial and geographical trends.

For example, ADHD prevalence hit above-average levels among two groups: households where the family income was below the poverty line (10 percent) and households where income fell somewhere between the poverty line and double the poverty line (11 percent).


Location also seemed to play a role, as the current prevalence rate among those living in both the Midwest and the southern part of the country shared an above-average prevalence rate of 10 percent. This was a shift from 10 years earlier, when the South had a higher prevalence rate than all other regions.

"Even if we're not exactly clear on what accounts for the rise in ADHD, on a population level the increase of this condition really signals a challenge for the education system and the health care system," said Akinbami.

"Children of ADHD," she noted, "use a lot more health care dollars than their peers, because the condition itself requires a lot of monitoring. And they are also much more likely to have other chronic health care conditions, such as asthma or learning disabilities or conduct diagnoses like conduct disorder, which makes managing them for schools and physicians and parents much more difficult. So, it's clearly something for public policy experts to be concerned about."

Dr. Tanya Froehlich, a developmental and behavioral pediatric specialist at the Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center, said discerning what is driving the higher numbers will be difficult.

"There's no way to tell just based on this data," she said. "But we know that there has been a great emphasis over the last 10 years on raising doctor awareness of ADHD and giving them better tools to diagnose."

"For instance," Froehlich noted, "in 2001 the American Academy of Pediatrics put out clinical practice guidelines on the assessment and treatment of children with ADHD. And a tool kit was also put out giving physicians actual measures to use to assess ADHD. All of this has really empowered physicians and parents. So given that, I would not really be surprised if that's why more and more kids have been diagnosed."
 
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Why do One in Ten Kids in the U.S. Have ADHD? Posted By Dr. Mercola | November 27 2010 | 47,737 views


PreviousNextA U.S. government survey claims that 1 in 10 U.S. children now has ADHD. This is a sizable increase from a few years earlier. ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) makes it hard for children to pay attention and control impulsive behavior.

About two-thirds of the children diagnosed with ADHD are on some form of prescription medication.

According to AP medical writer Mike Stobbe:

"In the latest survey, 9.5 percent said a doctor or health care provider had told them their child had ADHD ... ADHD diagnosis is in many ways a matter of opinion.


There's no blood test or brain-imaging exam for the condition. Sometimes reading disabilities or other problems in the classroom cause a teacher or others to mistakenly think a child has ADHD."

Researchers suggested growing awareness and better screening may be responsible for the rising numbers, but there are a number of food additives that experts think may worsen ADHD as well. They include:

•Blue #1 and #2 food coloring
•Green #3
•Orange B
•Red #3 and #40
•Yellow #5 and #6
•Sodium benzoate, a preservative
According to Health.com:

"Will eliminating dye-containing foods from a child's diet help ADHD? Experts say there's not enough evidence ... Most studies of a possible link analyzed blends of additives, not single ingredients, making it difficult to find a culprit."
Sources:
Yahoo Finance November 10, 2010

Health.com November 2010

Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR) November 12, 2010 / 59(44);1439-1443



Dr. Mercola's Comments:


When the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) surveyed 73,000 children, they found one in 10 has ADHD -- a 22 percent increase since 2003. In all this brings the number of U.S. kids with the disorder to over 5 million, about 1 million more than had it a few years ago.

As for why this massive increase occurred, there appears to be some serious head-scratching going on, and researchers could only say it could be due to greater awareness and more screening efforts.

I would argue, however, that Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) seems to have become more or less the catchall designations for children who do not “behave well” -- and at least one study suggests that many children may be misdiagnosed.

One Million ADHD Kids May be Misdiagnosed
A study published in the Journal of Health Economics determined that about 20 percent of children have likely been misdiagnosed. That’s nearly 1 million children in the United States alone.

The study found that many of the youngest children in any given grade level are perceived as exhibiting “symptoms” of ADHD, such as fidgeting and inability to concentrate, simply because they’re younger and being compared to their older, more mature classmates.

In fact, the youngest students were 60 percent more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD than the oldest in the same grade. And when you take into account the maturity level, and in large part normal behavior of a 6 versus a 7-year old, you can easily see why.

Science Daily wrote:

“… the "smoking gun" of the study is that ADHD diagnoses depend on a child's age relative to classmates and the teacher's perceptions of whether the child has symptoms.

If a child is behaving poorly, if he's inattentive, if he can't sit still, it may simply be because he's 5 and the other kids are 6," said Elder, assistant professor of economics. "There's a big difference between a 5-year-old and a 6-year-old, and teachers and medical practitioners need to take that into account when evaluating whether children have ADHD."

Additionally, it’s important for parents to remain in charge and make their own assessments known, as the study also concluded that:

“A child’s birth date relative to the eligibility cutoff also strongly influences teachers’ assessments of whether the child exhibits ADHD symptoms but is only weakly associated with similarly measured parental assessments, suggesting that many diagnoses may be driven by teachers’ perceptions of poor behavior among the youngest children in a classroom.

These perceptions have long-lasting consequences: the youngest children in fifth and eighth grades are nearly twice as likely as their older classmates to regularly use stimulants prescribed to treat ADHD.”

Confusion in How to “Diagnose” ADHD
Diagnosing ADHD really comes down to a matter of opinion, as there is no physical test, like a brain scan, that can pinpoint the condition. There’s only subjective evaluation, and, for better or worse, teachers can play a significant role in this evaluation.

Along with inattention and hyperactive-impulsive behavior, the two “hallmarks” of the disorder, children may also show the following symptoms:

•Frequent fidgeting or squirming
•Feels restless or often runs and climbs excessively, or leaves his or her seat in the classroom when not appropriate
•Has difficulty playing quietly
•Talks excessively, interrupts often, and may blurt out answers to questions at inappropriate times
•Always seems on the go
•Has difficulty waiting his or her turn
As you can see, many of these “symptoms” could describe most children at one time or another! Therefore, only those who struggle with inattention and hyperactive or impulsive behaviors around the clock are candidates for the ADHD label, but it is frequently given to many other children as well.

Given that two-thirds of children diagnosed with ADHD are prescribed medication -- drugs that often contain different formulations of methylphenidate, a powerful psychostimulant drug that is in the same class as cocaine -- receiving an ADHD diagnosis unnecessarily can be very harmful to a child.

What About Food Additives?
There are a number of theories to explain the rise in ADHD diagnoses, and there could be some instances where kids are displaying the above-mentioned symptoms due to external influences.

Among them, exposure to food additives including preservatives and food coloring may cause ADHD-like symptoms. These chemicals have a particularly pernicious synergy if they are combined with sugars such as fructose.

For instance, a study published in the journal The Lancet concluded that a variety of common food dyes, and the preservative sodium benzoate -- found in many soft drinks, fruit juices and salad dressings -- cause some children to become measurably more hyperactive and distractible.

The study also found that the E-numbered food dyes (such as tartrazine (E102), ponceau 4R (E124), sunset yellow (E110), carmoisine (E122), quinoline yellow (E104) and allura red AC (E129) do as much damage to children's brains as lead in gasoline, resulting in a significant reduction in IQ.

The results of this study prompted the British Food Standards Agency (FSA) to issue an immediate advisory to parents, warning them to limit their children's intake of additives if they notice an effect on behavior. They also advised the food industry to voluntarily remove the six food dyes named in the study in 2009 and replace them with natural alternatives if possible.

Of course, the United States has not followed suit in issuing any similar warnings to American parents.

What Else Could be Causing Increased Symptoms of ADHD?
A key factor, I believe, is eating foods that one was not designed to eat.

We know the food choices of most children -- and adults -- today are incredibly poor. How can you possibly expect a child to have normal behavior if he is fed refined grains, sugars, processed foods loaded with chemicals and genetically engineered ingredients, and juices and sodas instead of pure water?

It is virtually impossible to have a healthy functioning brain when the proper building blocks to develop or maintain a healthy brain are not being given!

Most notably, children who consume highly processed foods loaded with high fructose corn syrup and fruit juices tend to have a higher rate and severity of these symptoms. While organic whole grains are superior to processed ones, many children with ADHD do not respond well to most grains, especially wheat.

Other theories that may also be leading to an increase of ADHD-like symptoms include:

•Genetic factors -- Some scientists are now aiming their research at finding genes that may make a person more susceptible to this disorder.
•Environmental toxins -- A 2006 study found that a mother's use of cigarettes, alcohol, or other drugs during pregnancy could increase the risk for ADHD. Exposure to lead and mercury may also cause ADHD symptoms, and pesticides and the industrial chemicals polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) have also been named as potential culprits.
•Allergic reactions -- Chemically-sensitive people may exhibit ADHD symptoms when exposed to something as simple as clothing washed with perfumed and chemical-laden soap. Permanent press or stain-resistant products also contain chemicals that can initiate ADHD-like reactions in sensitive individuals.
•Increased number of childhood vaccinations – One 2007 survey found a strong correlation between rates of neurological disorders, such as ADHD, and childhood vaccinations. Vaccine adjuvants have also been associated with ADHD-type neurological problems.
•Fluoridated water
•Emotionally unstable home environments -- Stress is the frequently unappreciated and overlooked variable that can easily worsen ADHD. If the parents are having trouble in their relationship this can easily influence the child’s behavior.
•Increased rates of birth interventions. This can result in birth trauma and lack of oxygen in the newborn, which significantly increases the risk of developmental delay.
Be Careful With Labeling Your Child With ADHD
The majority of kids diagnosed with ADHD will be prescribed potentially dangerous drugs. It is my sincere hope that people will begin to realize that drug therapy, if at all necessary, should be a very last resort when it comes to behavioral problems such as ADHD, used only after all other options have been exhausted.

Unfortunately, U.S. pharmacists distribute five times more Ritalin than the rest of the world combined, according to Dr. Samuel Epstein’s Cancer Prevention Coalition (CPC). In all, 60 percent to 90 percent of U.S. kids with attention deficit disorders are prescribed this powerful drug, which amounts to 3 percent to 5 percent of U.S. children and teens on Ritalin.

By definition, Ritalin stimulates your central nervous system, leading to side effects such as:

•Increased blood pressure
•Increased heart rate
•Increased body temperature
•Increased alertness
•Suppressed appetite
Research has also linked Ritalin with more severe health problems such as cancer as well as an increased probability of suicidal thoughts and behavior.

Ritalin also has the same pharmacological profile as cocaine, yet its effects are even more potent. Using brain imaging, scientists have found that, in pill form, Ritalin occupies more of the neural transporters responsible for the “high” experienced by addicts than smoked or injected cocaine.

In essence, we have created a large body of new drug addicts, priming them for addiction from an extremely young age. And most of these kids are receiving the drugs unnecessarily, when they’ve been either misdiagnosed or the true underlying causes of their hyperactive behavior have not been recognized!

Natural Tips for Treating ADHD and ADHD-Like Symptoms
If your child has been diagnosed with ADHD or displays ADHD-like symptoms, first be sure they have been given an assessment that is appropriate for their age to rule out that their “acting out” is actually normal.

Then, implement the following strategies before resorting to medications, as often they work exceptionally well in treating this condition:

•Eliminate most grains and sugars from your child’s diet. Grains and sugars both tend to cause allergies in sensitive individuals. Even organic, whole grain can cause problems in many children so it would be wise to give them a grain holiday and see if their behavior improves.
•Replace soft drinks (whether diet and regular), fruit juices, and pasteurized milk with pure, clean non-fluoridated water. While you may believe fruit juices are a healthy option to soda, they aren’t and need to be avoided as strictly as soda does.
•Increase omega-3 fats by taking a high quality animal-based omega-3 oil. Research has confirmed that something as simple as animal-based omega-3 fat can improve the symptoms of ADHD more effectively than drugs like Ritalin and Concerta. In my view, krill oil is the best option for this. It contains essential EPA and DHA in a double chain phospholipid structure that makes it far more absorbable than the omega-3s in fish oil.
•Minimize your use of nearly all processed fats, especially trans fats as they disrupt nerve cell intercommunication.
•Avoid all processed foods, especially those containing artificial colors, flavors and preservatives, which may trigger or worsen symptoms.
•Clear your house of dangerous pesticides and other commercial chemicals. Pesticide exposure has been linked with ADHD.
•Avoid commercial washing detergents and cleaning products used on clothes, and replace them with naturally derived cleaning products with no added perfumes, softeners, etc.
•Spend more time in nature. Researchers have found that exposing ADHD children to nature is an affordable, healthy way of controlling symptoms.
•Investigate sensory therapy and emotional wellness tools. Instead of looking for a quick fix, encourage ADHD sufferers to talk, and find out what emotions are causing issues. You may want to consider the energy tapping techniques to improve emotional coping and healing.




Related Links:
Non-Drug Treatment of ADD/ADHD (Part 1)

Could This be the Key Factor Spiking the Rise in ADHD?

ADHD: Childlike Behavior or Serious Condition?
 
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WOW U.S. pharmacists distribute five times more Ritalin than the rest of the world combined, according to Dr. Samuel Epstein’s Cancer Prevention Coalition (CPC). In all, 60 percent to 90 percent of U.S. kids with attention deficit disorders are prescribed this powerful drug, which amounts to 3 percent to 5 percent of U.S. children and teens on Ritalin
 
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I have friends that were diagnosed with severe ADHD and were prescribed massive amounts of Ritalin from childhood until high school.

Both of them hated taking the pills and remember most of their childhoods having their parents physically force them to take these drugs.

One friend actually was so messed up from it he could not respond normally to regular life situations or conversations. He remembers it was more of a clicking that went on.

Both of them are now fixing what has been done to them using cannabis.

crazy the way things work right now....Legal to give speed to kids in school....but we can not have a cannabis dispensary less then 1000feet from a school....

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I raised two special needs kids, and ADD/ADHD was only part of their Dx and issues. One thing that people who don't understand the disorder well don't know is that speed has the opposite effect on those who have the disorder, and that is in fact one of the Dxing characteristics.

For instance, with my youngest boy, when he and his brother would get worked up into that 7-7:30pm mania, aka psychotic fervor, I learned that if I gave him coffee he would calm down. Coffee, in fact, can make *me* very sleepy. Now as an adult I look back on my childhood and realize that I was... am, likely ADD.

I don't think it's good compare what's happening to the children of the entire rest of the world (with regard to health and education) for this subject matter, either. Limit comparisons to APT comparisons, i.e. First World countries with comparable health and mental care.
 
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Have been through this with my son and so glad to get him off those pills. Cannabis seems to be doing the trick just fine for him now.
 
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when I was in kindergarten they said I had ADHD and learning problems related to it they wanted to feed me pills, my mother changed my doctor and my teacher dealt me ass woopings rather then pills forced me to study and focus, she had me straight with in the year and taught me life skills to deal with issues that I had, I cant thank my mom enough for not drugging me up as a youth.

I know too many people personally who are just fucked up with twitches and shit who were raised on pills.
 
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I have ADD/ADHD and bipolar disorder. Have a lifetime of experience w/ both, but what I've learned from the inside looking out during the 15 years since being diagnosed has put a lot of pieces of the puzzle together for me. I agree w/ the view that the pharmaceutical companies are often no more than glorified pushers and that many shrinks have been reduced to dealer status as a result of the priorities intrinsic to corporate entities and greed in the health care industry but, and this is a big BUT, my life is a lot better w/ the correct combination and quantity of meds than it was/would be w/o them.

I tried getting myself set straight going the Jung, Joeseph Campbell, James Hillman et al route for years prior to my diagnosis. A lot of help but could never get over the hump. It's curious how the addition of a small amount of 2 simple salts- Lithium (in the form of Lithibid) and a small daily dosage of dextroamphetamine sulfate, (the same doses for both that I've taken over the past 15 years) would have such a strong effect on one's ability to focus , concentrate and navigate a bit better through life w/ one, and quiet down Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde w/ the other.

As my state improved, MMJ enabled me to cast away a couple of effective, but not so healthy, meds, it acts as a "breakthrough" at times and I get a sense that it "pulls together" the other meds that I'm stuck with... that is, if I want to continue to consistently and peacefully coexist w/ others in the hustle, bustle 21st century society that we are presently living in.

PS Growing up and going to elementary school in the 1950's w/ ADD was... interesting.
 
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Heh... I remember vaguely what my dad was like when he was on lithium. Completely different person, I'd never ever once seen him on such an even keel. Then he got much better, thank you, and didn't need it any more.
when I was in kindergarten they said I had ADHD and learning problems related to it they wanted to feed me pills, my mother changed my doctor and my teacher dealt me ass woopings rather then pills forced me to study and focus, she had me straight with in the year and taught me life skills to deal with issues that I had, I cant thank my mom enough for not drugging me up as a youth.

I know too many people personally who are just fucked up with twitches and shit who were raised on pills.
So it was either pills or corporal punishment? Nothing like, oh, say, behavioral therapy? Occupational therapy? Training for the teachers in redirection?

Damn. Well, that's a problem right there, IMO.
 
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I must have adhd or something cuz this is way 2 much 2 read I'm sorry. Im gonna go medicate then let me see if i can do any better.....lol peace:mad0233:
 
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Opinion:

Does a kid who takes Adderal and Ritalin and then drinks alcohol and smokes weed ("60$ worth a day of this "med pot"" according to his mom) >>to relax<< really have ADD or just a sizeable doctor-oriented prescription drug problem?

I told his mom she should give him another $60 a day for weed if needed and get his ass off the pharmacueticals and on an organic/fruit-veggie based diet and see if he can get his head together

she looked at me like I was nutz and I'm sure I was returning the glance.... LOL

respect to anyone who has their dosages in line/etc..etc..etc. (not knocking anyones doc-prescribed med regime' here)
 
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Heh... I remember vaguely what my dad was like when he was on lithium. Completely different person, I'd never ever once seen him on such an even keel. Then he got much better, thank you, and didn't need it any more.

So it was either pills or corporal punishment? Nothing like, oh, say, behavioral therapy? Occupational therapy? Training for the teachers in redirection?

Damn. Well, that's a problem right there, IMO.

pills where never an option, getting the teacher training lol man.... right...
therapy... good one I call that passing the buck. My mom fixed the problem with her own two hands, set down and provided me with her own version of therapy I think its called parenting today.

you call it corporal punishment, my mom called it being a MOTHER and it worked 100 percent on me, with the side effects being listening to adults, staying quite in class and focusing in class. a few spankings in my youth set me straight and kept me out of problems the rest of my life with out the need for more pills or the horrible side effects that come with them.

If thats a problem to you so be it, it was a MUCH MUCH better solution for me and I am glad my mother went that route.

Now of course this was my life situation and I wouldn't judge others who feel that pills is the only route they have left with there children or them selfs, but I feel too many parents use pills to calm there kids down rather then doing that thing called parenting.
 
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Really think diet is also cause of a lot of this.
Sodas, processed foods like pizza rolls, all the crap some are brainwashed to eat, adults as well, cannot be good for devloping minds and bodies..
I know its hard to get kids to eat right, but if you start out rright from the beginning, breast feeding, avoid the junk, I think we would be way better off...
 
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Really think diet is also cause of a lot of this.
Sodas, processed foods like pizza rolls, all the crap some are brainwashed to eat, adults as well, cannot be good for devloping minds and bodies..
I know its hard to get kids to eat right, but if you start out rright from the beginning, breast feeding, avoid the junk, I think we would be way better off...

theres studies and a couple books that compared vaccinated to non vaccinated kids and it showed huge increase in ADHD and ADD and a host of other problem with vaccinated kids to.... I my self was vaccinated as a kid.

Ill go look for it real quick and post the link.



" five times more asthma
- nearly three times more allergies
- over three times more ear infections
- over four times more apnea and near miss cot death
- nearly four times more bouts of recurring tonsillitis
- ten times more hyperactivity

Vaccinated children also have 317% more ADHD, 185% more neurologic disorders and 146% more autism than non-vaccinated children.

In addition, during outbreaks of mumps or measles, for example, the vast majority of infections occur in the fully vaccinated population. ‘Fully’ means they have received all the required booster shots. Being in need of booster shots, of course, shows that vaccines cannot bestow real immunity."

I agree with the food part but I feel the vaccinations are the real big problem.
 
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Really think diet is also cause of a lot of this.
Sodas, processed foods like pizza rolls, all the crap some are brainwashed to eat, adults as well, cannot be good for devloping minds and bodies..
I know its hard to get kids to eat right, but if you start out rright from the beginning, breast feeding, avoid the junk, I think we would be way better off...

This is only my Opinion but CM hit the nail on the head here folks....FOOD, FOOD, FOOD.....Eat REAL FOOD, Deal with your Problems Head on, and do everything you can to reduce stress in your childrens lives....

GanjaGardener I agree that the hustle/bustle life that most of our society lives would/does require me to be medicated to fully immerse myself and be a kind individual to those that I encounter.....And it is all due to the fact that our society breeeeeeds stress due to the pedestal we have put the almighty dollar on....Im in my late 20's and I know that kids today are much more aware of the financial situation (not so much the hunger/no house part, but the real "we don't have a @&%(*^ Dollar" arguments they hear from their parent (s)) than the kids in my generation ever were....

ADD and ADHD (as well as many many many other things that Americans Sink their money into) IMO are corporate funded marketing ploys to convince us to live happily we must use their "products"...

Remember School didn't teach you how to become a parent, your parents did, and a lot of the generation before me (45 - 65 yr olds & getting increasingly worse w my generation) did not leave that option up to their kids as they were too selfish and got divorced or turned into a crackhead during or before their offsprings childhood. (yes my mother is included)... Maybe we need to focus on how to create a sense of parental responsibility (I know a lot of my generation has NONE)

So maybe the issue is a root issue of removing ourselves away from what is wholesome in life....Go talk to your kids, plant a garden, don't drive your car for a day, take a walk....Try to return to a simpler form of humanity at least for a little while each day, and I think we have a chance to cure these things...on our own....

Sorry for the super rant, I just don't think people are seeing the light here....

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pills where never an option, getting the teacher training lol man.... right...
therapy... good one I call that passing the buck. My mom fixed the problem with her own two hands, set down and provided me with her own version of therapy I think its called parenting today.

you call it corporal punishment, my mom called it being a MOTHER and it worked 100 percent on me, with the side effects being listening to adults, staying quite in class and focusing in class. a few spankings in my youth set me straight and kept me out of problems the rest of my life with out the need for more pills or the horrible side effects that come with them.

If thats a problem to you so be it, it was a MUCH MUCH better solution for me and I am glad my mother went that route.

Now of course this was my life situation and I wouldn't judge others who feel that pills is the only route they have left with there children or them selfs, but I feel too many parents use pills to calm there kids down rather then doing that thing called parenting.
Wow, what a way to misjudge the situation and jump to conclusions about a person. It's actually very difficult at this particular moment to not just toss out a FUCK YOU, because you have no idea what I, as a parent, went through with my kids. But, all I'm going to say at this time is that you don't know me, don't know my kids, their disorders, what we went through, what we still currently go through, or how it's been handled.

Spanking doesn't set every child right. Nor does it educate a child. I have to stop now or I'll go on one hell of a rant about this shit.

Do I smell Scientologists in the room? If so, just let me know and I'll leave now.
 
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Lets keep it respectful... I think people are taking things get a little to personal here...

This is a great discussion do not let personal feelings get in the way of personal experiences.

Share and be nice or please do not post. These are peoples deep feelings discussing very delicate issues.

This thread really can help people as long as it does not go the wrong direction.

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I appreciate the sentiment, and I think that if you go through my posts you'll find that the vast majority of them are respectful of others. Talking about my kids, you're right, that's a sensitive subject for me. I'll leave it at that.
 
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Great news piece, very informative.
 
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A cautionary note. There are several different styles of effective parenting. Making absolute statements about "do's and don'ts", whether blanket, directed towards, or negating another individual's approach to caring for what they likely care about the most in this world, is about as inflammatory as it gets.

Pinpointing unique situations can help in our understanding of the larger picture but shouldn't be mistaken for the larger picture. I can use statistics to support the opposing sides of the same argument if I pick, choose and spin it right.

If you think that there is one or two major answers to the "whys"and "hows" of, and the solutions to working/living w/ ADD, than I would suggest that you dig deeper. More insight from an "expert" adult ADDer will be forthcoming.
 

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