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Familiarity, source of heat, initial cost. The transition can be frustrating to an experienced grower having to redial everything in again in most casesI'm very curious as to why current growers use old-school light tech that is allegedly much more inefficient than LEDs.
Is it purely based on spectrum?
Can anyone give me some insight?
I guess it can be familiarity, but i'm seeing new growers starting off with HID, and I don't get it. Seems too many pros with LEDs, lower initial cost, efficiency, lower heat, longer life time.Familiarity, source of heat, initial cost. The transition can be frustrating to an experienced grower having to redial everything in again in most cases
Growing under HID and LED require very different environments and even changes in nutrients. Imo most atick with HID because if it aint broke don’t fix it.
HID is much cheaper per watt initial cost. I mean HID has been a time tested proven light source for many years…. Id say maybe 5 yrs and not all LED are the same. Still many cheap LEDs that suck ass and are marketed cleverly to for lack of a better term rip ppl offI guess it can be familiarity, but i'm seeing new growers starting off with HID, and I don't get it. Seems too many pros with LEDs, lower initial cost, efficiency, lower heat, longer life time.
I'm a new grower and didn't once consider using HID. Just curious why new people start with it.
When I started growing indoors, every penny of up-front cost was important. An incremental increase in my electric bill was much less important.I guess it can be familiarity, but i'm seeing new growers starting off with HID, and I don't get it. Seems too many pros with LEDs, lower initial cost, efficiency, lower heat, longer life time.
I'm a new grower and didn't once consider using HID. Just curious why new people start with it.
I might take note, but I don't agree with the up front costs. I did sooo much homework determining what LED to buy. I never go name brand anything usually, I look for the company that uses the same components with a decent build but half the cost.When I started growing indoors, every penny of up-front cost was important. An incremental increase in my electric bill was much less important.
After my first run with LEDs, I toyed with going back to HIDs. If you were a newbie and your buddy, who was growing for years, did that, wouldn't you take note?
The ppfd requirement is far different in flower than veg due to the change in hours of light. Thats a good price for what ya got.I might take note, but I don't agree with the up front costs. I did sooo much homework determining what LED to buy. I never go name brand anything usually, I look for the company that uses the same components with a decent build but half the cost.
I got these 2 100watt LEDs for only $50 each. They use Samsung LEDs, a meanwell driver, and had a 3rd party PPFD rating done to prove it. I find the price very very hard to beat vs any other LED or HID.I know there are tons of cheap Chinese LEDs out there, but there are some real gems if you know how to read the numbers.
I think my cheap LEDs are kicking ass IMO
So leds can actually compete toe to toe with HID? But all these el cheapo all in 1 "grow light" kits give them a bad name.HID is much cheaper per watt initial cost. I mean HID has been a time tested proven light source for many years…. Id say maybe 5 yrs and not all LED are the same. Still many cheap LEDs that suck ass and are marketed cleverly to for lack of a better term rip ppl off
They can exceed HID in all areas. But quality and marketing are what gives LED a bad name.So leds can actually compete toe to toe with HID? But all these el cheapo all in 1 "grow light" kits give them a bad name.
Not anymore… almost all have or are switching.I always thought the top pros still get the best with HID.
i 100% concur with that statement. The market is flooded between good and bad LEDs. I had a friend who bought an LED purely based on the claimed coverage area alone, that was the only research. The light sucked ass and now he's bitter.They can exceed HID in all areas. But quality and marketing are what gives LED a bad name.
Depending on the bulbs some are better than others… better being subjective. But LED can be made at any spectrum so no LED have that advantage over HID.ah yes but that last part right there. Is there still not a slight edge with the best hids?
The spectrum with LEDs can be custom tailored to a grower's needs. You can even make your own quantum board if you think you know a better spectrum than what is offered main-stream.ah yes but that last part right there. Is there still not a slight edge with the best hids?
I put enviroment as the most important factor along with all the 1% ers why i was successful straight away with led..i found it very easy.but i built a room and bought good gear...no fucking around lol.. only john west rejects the bestFamiliarity, source of heat, initial cost. The transition can be frustrating to an experienced grower having to redial everything in again in most cases
Growing under HID and LED require very different environments and even changes in nutrients. Imo most atick with HID because if it aint broke don’t fix it.
Yeah its quite different needs between themI put enviroment as the most important factor along with all the 1% ers why i was successful straight away with led..i found it very easy.but i built a room and bought good gear...no fucking around lol.. only john west rejects the best
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