All Mental Illness Patients!!!!!!!!!!!

kbellfoy · Oct 5, 2015

3N1GM4 said:
I was taking antidepressants with an enabler, 700 mgs of serequil, colonipin and depakote at the height of my doctors trial and prescribe more when it doesnt work regimines. Antidepressants are made from poison and that is why they only work on some people. American doctors dont care because in america most doctors become doctors because they wang a big house and a nice car, dont get me wrong there are still good doctors but most just rush you out because the more people they see the more money they make. This is where your problem originates, doctors should be paid on salary and if you go to the doctor they souldnt be allowed to just rush you out with a prescription for an antibiotic. It should be illegal for a doctor to charge you unless you are satisfied with their services and doctors should be federally regulated and watched and the patients surveyed. Every time I go to the doctor I feel like I have been robbed.
Praise God for His all natural medicine.

Being in the UK we call meds by different names so plz excuse my ignorance. In the UK our doctors are on salary. It's actually quite hard to get a diagnosis never mind any meds to help. I had to wait 26 weeks just for an appointment with a psychiatrist. Then I was told I was just depressed. My god I could have ripped his head off! Took me 3 years of pushing to get a proper diagnosis. But on the other hand we don't have to pay. Our mental health system is so overwhelmed they can't cope. Also I think that there must be doctors out there with mental health issues too. After all they aren't immune. Yes.....thank god for mj

epitome · Oct 5, 2015

3N1GM4 said:
If you look up the origin of antidepressants, they figured out that poisoning rats brains with hydrogenated poisons in small amounts made hyper agressive rats docile and passive. They then moved to monkey testing which was another big contraversy. The argument of big pharma would be it has been tested in clinical trials and it helps alot of people. That is along the lines of what my psychiatrist said to me when I told her that antidepressants were made from poison so I dont take them. She said, Well, yeah, but they help alot of people. All doctors know that medicine is killing their patients slowly but most still prescribe it.
There have also been studies with magic mushrooms on mental illness patients in voluntary college term paper trials and most patients reported having no manic episodes for months after consuming the shrooms and reported feeling more normal. So there is something to poisoning your brain that makes you complacent. But if you take any kind of poison then you are defeating the purpose of taking medicine in the first place.
Is there some type of tincture that is made from cannabis that instantly calms besides dabs? Any way to make psychadelic bho...?

I entertain the idea of therapeutic psychedelics because you take them rarely instead of taking them every day like pills. Plus, the worry of side effects when my pills aren't taken on time or consistently available...it's scary to know list of side effects of sudden stoppage are as long as the side effects of taking them to begin with, which add up to twice as many side effects before starting any of that shit.

epitome · Oct 5, 2015

kbellfoy said:
Being in the UK we call meds by different names so plz excuse my ignorance. In the UK our doctors are on salary. It's actually quite hard to get a diagnosis never mind any meds to help. I had to wait 26 weeks just for an appointment with a psychiatrist. Then I was told I was just depressed. My god I could have ripped his head off! Took me 3 years of pushing to get a proper diagnosis. But on the other hand we don't have to pay. Our mental health system is so overwhelmed they can't cope. Also I think that there must be doctors out there with mental health issues too. After all they aren't immune. Yes.....thank god for mj

Let's remember how many "sane" people were admitted into asylums just to turn them crazy "insane". I'm not saying mental illness is contagious, I'm saying transference of energy is real and influential, so yes doctors got their version of "issues" as well ;^}

Junk · Oct 5, 2015

WORF said:
Hello every one my name is worf I started this thread for it to be a place where other patients can come tell there story's recommend strains and last but definitely not least this thread is for support!!!

I my self am a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic and have been all my life I have found real promise in many strains regarding my ailment and a recent visit from a loved one whom also suffers from PS made me think on how important it was to support others the best I can with mental illness this is my first step in my plan .

So if you suffer from any mental illness please please please do not hesitate to contact me for infoirmation , or just a ear. And a shoulder!

Peace and love
WORF

When I read that second paragraph, I read it like this, "I am a self diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic" & I instantly thought to myself, "That's kind of a serious thing to be self diagnosing." I read it again....I'm an idiot.

I've got too many to count. Seizures being the most serious one, however 2nd, 3rd, & 4th are very close behind. Every day is a struggle. Many times it's passing the hours just to make it through a day.

epitome · Oct 5, 2015

Stay positive @Junk it helps me to the point where I'm told I'm in denial and a wish full thinker and a dreamer......really I'm just trying to preserve my sanity.

kbellfoy · Oct 5, 2015

Junk said:
When I read that second paragraph, I read it like this, "I am a self diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic" & I instantly thought to myself, "That's kind of a serious thing to be self diagnosing." I read it again....I'm an idiot.

I've got too many to count. Seizures being the most serious one, however 2nd, 3rd, & 4th are very close behind. Every day is a struggle. Many times it's passing the hours just to make it through a day.

Yes every day is a damn hard struggle sometimes. We get up...and we deal with it the best we can. More importantly WE ARE STILL HERE! We all need to be strong any way we can....and I personally do what ever I have to do to get by.....and f*** what anyone else thinks. I mean look at this way....I'm risking jail time just to grow what I need. If that happens so be it. I just wish that the UK would legalise it for medicinal use. I tell my doctors I use cannabis. Not one has said a bad word to me about it. I applauded ANYONE who has the strength to face their issues every day. Stay strong....and on days when u can't then may what ever u believe in give u the strength to get back up and carry on.

kbellfoy · Oct 5, 2015

epitome said:
I entertain the idea of therapeutic psychedelics because you take them rarely instead of taking them every day like pills. Plus, the worry of side effects when my pills aren't taken on time or consistently available...it's scary to know list of side effects of sudden stoppage are as long as the side effects of taking them to begin with, which add up to twice as many side effects before starting any of that shit.

God you are so right! I have to take a pill that can kill me for a year before I can have the next step of treatment. Feels like being held hostage. It's not them risking their lives is it. I have to jump through the hoops before I can get anything else done. It's disgusting it really is. I wonder if more ppl said no would things change?

epitome · Oct 5, 2015

kbellfoy said:
God you are so right! I have to take a pill that can kill me for a year before I can have the next step of treatment. Feels like being held hostage. It's not them risking their lives is it. I have to jump through the hoops before I can get anything else done. It's disgusting it really is. I wonder if more ppl said no would things change?

Self autonomy is healing in itself, they hate for us to be self autonomous really. So maybe no change, they would still hate us but at the very least we are and will continue to be self-autonomous!

Junk · Oct 5, 2015

It's hard when you must be on drugs that just make everything worse. If I want to drive, I need to take a large number of seizure meds, which make you fat, or listless, or stupid.

Even if I don't want to drive, I have to be on the seizure meds for my own safety. The seizures I have are dangerous to my body, & brain. So, even if I didn't want to take them, I have to take them for the sake of my loved ones. It's possible that my next seizure will kill me. Not likely, but very possible. Even more possible, I will live, but suffer permanent brain damage, which would be an even larger problem in my opinion. I already feel terrible that people have to deal with me the way I am. I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, PTSD, Gran Mal Seizures, depression, anxiety. My glands are shot. I don't talk about it a lot, nor do I plan to, but life for me is not enjoyable anymore. This all happened to me one day. I was a healthy 26 year old. Exercise junkie. I would go to the gym during lunch to lift weights, I'd get home & run as many as 13 miles several times a week. I had what one of my Dr.'s called a small nervous breakdown (it was certainly more than a really bad anxiety attack, of which, by that time, I'd experienced hundreds) I lost control of my body. I could actually feel my mental/emotional self separating from my physical self. The unravelling was a physical sensation I could feel. I started crying uncontrollably. I crouched down in the corner because it felt like the safest place. When my grandparents could see something was very wrong, they tried to get me out of the corner, & I couldn't get my body to move.

That is a very weird sensation, & one that you never forget. I was doing everything you would normally do to move, however, my body would not respond. Watch, turn your head to the left, see how easy it is? Now imagine wanting to turn your head to the left, trying your hardest...but it won't turn. When I say I felt a physical sensation of my mental/emotional self separating from my physical self, this was the end affect. I could no longer reason with my emotions (I was sobbing uncontrollably, literally) I no longer had control of my body. I don't remember how I got out of it, I just remember my grandmother putting me to bed, rubbing my forehead, telling me it was going to be ok.

The next day, I woke up racked with pain. I felt like I got hit by a train. I was walking around the house like I just had surgery (if you have had surgery you will know what I mean). I was utterly exhausted as well...

& it never went away. It has been that way ever since. Almost exactly 10 years now. About 6 years ago I started having Gran Mal Seizures.

Oddly enough, they have something now called the MTHFR test. They have found that people with specific illnesses will typically have the same gene mutations shown in the MTHFR (short for Mother/Father as the gene mutations are inherited from one or both parties)

My specific mutations are linked to: Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Addictions, IBS, Depression, Anxiety &... Epilepsy.

This test is fairly new, & I've been diagnosed & confirmed several times over for years now. I find it more than coincidental that I have every single one of those problems, & the gene mutations they are linked to.

The MTHFR test is not bunk science. It's legitimate, & any doctor who knows anything about it will agree. This is not like the Autism/vaccines "science" where SOME doctors believe there is a link but most don't. This is DNA testing for specific gene mutations. Specifically the c677 & a1298 (if i recall correctly). Depending on the mutation combinations, you can be predisposed to a totally different set of illnesses.

As of yet, they haven't figured out a way to "fix" the problems, but, it's moving fast. If you care to learn more there is a ton of sites...this one has links to actual papers.

mthfr.net

PROTOPIPE · Oct 5, 2015

Junk said:
When I read that second paragraph, I read it like this, "I am a self diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic" & I instantly thought to myself, "That's kind of a serious thing to be self diagnosing." I read it again....I'm an idiot.

I've got too many to count. Seizures being the most serious one, however 2nd, 3rd, & 4th are very close behind. Every day is a struggle. Many times it's passing the hours just to make it through a day.

saw a t-shirt the other day that said i'm a schizophrenic.. and so am i! thought it was cute

kbellfoy · Oct 5, 2015

Junk said:
It's hard when you must be on drugs that just make everything worse. If I want to drive, I need to take a large number of seizure meds, which make you fat, or listless, or stupid.

Even if I don't want to drive, I have to be on the seizure meds for my own safety. The seizures I have are dangerous to my body, & brain. So, even if I didn't want to take them, I have to take them for the sake of my loved ones. It's possible that my next seizure will kill me. Not likely, but very possible. Even more possible, I will live, but suffer permanent brain damage, which would be an even larger problem in my opinion. I already feel terrible that people have to deal with me the way I am. I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, PTSD, Gran Mal Seizures, depression, anxiety. My glands are shot. I don't talk about it a lot, nor do I plan to, but life for me is not enjoyable anymore. This all happened to me one day. I was a healthy 26 year old. Exercise junkie. I would go to the gym during lunch to lift weights, I'd get home & run as many as 13 miles several times a week. I had what one of my Dr.'s called a small nervous breakdown (it was certainly more than a really bad anxiety attack, of which, by that time, I'd experienced hundreds) I lost control of my body. I could actually feel my mental/emotional self separating from my physical self. The unravelling was a physical sensation I could feel. I started crying uncontrollably. I crouched down in the corner because it felt like the safest place. When my grandparents could see something was very wrong, they tried to get me out of the corner, & I couldn't get my body to move.

That is a very weird sensation, & one that you never forget. I was doing everything you would normally do to move, however, my body would not respond. Watch, turn your head to the left, see how easy it is? Now imagine wanting to turn your head to the left, trying your hardest...but it won't turn. When I say I felt a physical sensation of my mental/emotional self separating from my physical self, this was the end affect. I could no longer reason with my emotions (I was sobbing uncontrollably, literally) I no longer had control of my body. I don't remember how I got out of it, I just remember my grandmother putting me to bed, rubbing my forehead, telling me it was going to be ok.

The next day, I woke up racked with pain. I felt like I got hit by a train. I was walking around the house like I just had surgery (if you have had surgery you will know what I mean). I was utterly exhausted as well...

& it never went away. It has been that way ever since. Almost exactly 10 years now. About 6 years ago I started having Gran Mal Seizures.

Oddly enough, they have something now called the MTHFR test. They have found that people with specific illnesses will typically have the same gene mutations shown in the MTHFR (short for Mother/Father as the gene mutations are inherited from one or both parties)

My specific mutations are linked to: Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Addictions, IBS, Depression, Anxiety &... Epilepsy.

This test is fairly new, & I've been diagnosed & confirmed several times over for years now. I find it more than coincidental that I have every single one of those problems, & the gene mutations they are linked to.

The MTHFR test is not bunk science. It's legitimate, & any doctor who knows anything about it will agree. This is not like the Autism/vaccines "science" where SOME doctors believe there is a link but most don't. This is DNA testing for specific gene mutations. Specifically the c677 & a1298 (if i recall correctly). Depending on the mutation combinations, you can be predisposed to a totally different set of illnesses.

As of yet, they haven't figured out a way to "fix" the problems, but, it's moving fast. If you care to learn more there is a ton of sites...this one has links to actual papers.

mthfr.net

Iv had gene test as breast cancer runs in the family. I have the gene which is actually from my grandmothers womb cancer. The gene mutated during transfer so came to us as breast cancer. Weird or what. I won't have a voluntary mastectomy as I don't see a need. The gene might never switch on in me so to speak. I also will not be having any chemo IF I get it. Once I'm over 50 my risk goes back to normal. It gets my family in their forties. What is really strange is ours us a cancer seen specifically in black ppl. We are white for generations. Absolutely no mixed race in my family. Our bodies are amazing and strange things. I believe in genetic testing because at least then u know why. It's not in your head. I often wonder why has mental health issues and cancer risen so much in numbers at the moment. When I was young u didn't hear of cancer very much. It's like a plague now. I also believe there is a cure for cancer but because the pharmaceutical industry make billions off current treatments they will NEVER release it. It sounds like u went through hell. My heart ached for u when I read this post from you.

kbellfoy · Oct 5, 2015

PROTOPIPE said:
saw a t-shirt the other day that said i'm a schizophrenic.. and so am i! thought it was cute

Good for you. Wear it proudly :D

kbellfoy · Oct 5, 2015

epitome said:
Self autonomy is healing in itself, they hate for us to be self autonomous really. So maybe no change, they would still hate us but at the very least we are and will continue to be self-autonomous!

Never thought of it that way.

Junk · Oct 5, 2015

kbellfoy said:
Iv had gene test as breast cancer runs in the family. I have the gene which is actually from my grandmothers womb cancer. The gene mutated during transfer so came to us as breast cancer. Weird or what. I won't have a voluntary mastectomy as I don't see a need. The gene might never switch on in me so to speak. I also will not be having any chemo IF I get it. Once I'm over 50 my risk goes back to normal. It gets my family in their forties. What is really strange is ours us a cancer seen specifically in black ppl. We are white for generations. Absolutely no mixed race in my family. Our bodies are amazing and strange things. I believe in genetic testing because at least then u know why. It's not in your head. I often wonder why has mental health issues and cancer risen so much in numbers at the moment. When I was young u didn't hear of cancer very much. It's like a plague now. I also believe there is a cure for cancer but because the pharmaceutical industry make billions off current treatments they will NEVER release it. It sounds like u went through hell. My heart ached for u when I read this post from you.

That is what the doctors currently hypothesize. Most people with FMS/CFS it comes on after a trauma. For me, it was that horrific anxiety attack/nervous breakdown...whatever you want to qualify it as. However I've had hundreds, if anything closer to 500, anxiety attacks. Some so severe I have to go to the hospital, even on anxiety meds. The event of that night was very different than all anxiety attacks I've had. I thought that I was going to be in the mental ward for the rest of my life. My body & my mind were separating, & I had no way of knowing whether it would come back.

Anyway, they suspect that, for some people, they may have the mutations, but not show any symptoms. They may never show any symptoms. But if something trips those mutations into action, a physical trauma (car accident, a fall, surgery), or an emotional trauma (divorce, death of a loved one, job loss). That people will tend to display symptoms that are in line with their mthfr mutations.

I know that mine, are dead on. Everything I have is linked to those mutations, & I don't suffer from anything that isn't. & they are rather distinctive. Epilepsy? That's pretty specific. Never had a seizure in my life until 6 years ago. & as i said, I was diagnosed with these illnesses way before the mthfr became known. I realize I am an anecdote, but I find it extremely compelling that my mutations, & what they largely indicate for problems, are exactly what I experience.

Now, I just hope they can find a way to fix it, or at least help it.

420 lyfePpP · Oct 5, 2015

kbellfoy said:
I was widowed 5 years ago ( aged 41 )My husband of 15 years was murdered. I had police living at my house a court case and everything. Couldn't Bury him for 6 weeks. I can still smell him when I close my eyes. I sat with him every day....even tho he was in a fridge he still stunk after a couple of weeks. I could only have an hour with him as the longer he was out the worse he was. I couldn't let go. He looked awful...His face all bruised and stuff. I was diagnosed with bi polar a year and a half later. My doc said it was from all the shock etc. At one point PTSD was discussed but I wasn't listening. If not for cannabis I wouldn't be here now. I'm a full time carer for my autistic son who also uses cannabis. I grow now to take away the financial strain and also because of the shit weed available near me. Honestly it's crap. I'm just getting in to finding which strain etc is best for me. I need something that calms me down. I get very agitated and angry over nothing so need a good strong calming high. Any body got any suggestions plz on the best strains for this?? on top of all that I have severe arthritis and in 2 days I'm having major spinal surgery so I need pain relief too. I can't actually believe I'm putting this out there tbh.....wow.....but if others have then why not me too. Much love to you all

I had trainwrek and that was good for head space . BB. OG and blueberry punch blue dream was pretty good. Done a bit of purple kush for pain . Kings kush. BC god bud is supposed to be great for pain . . Startin it now . Good luck with your surgery . Peace and good vibes to u. 420lyfe PpP

420 lyfePpP · Oct 5, 2015

Yeah

3N1GM4 said:
If you look up the origin of antidepressants, they figured out that poisoning rats brains with hydrogenated poisons in small amounts made hyper agressive rats docile and passive. They then moved to monkey testing which was another big contraversy. The argument of big pharma would be it has been tested in clinical trials and it helps alot of people. That is along the lines of what my psychiatrist said to me when I told her that antidepressants were made from poison so I dont take them. She said, Well, yeah, but they help alot of people. All doctors know that medicine is killing their patients slowly but most still prescribe it.
There have also been studies with magic mushrooms on mental illness patients in voluntary college term paper trials and most patients reported having no manic episodes for months after consuming the shrooms and reported feeling more normal. So there is something to poisoning your brain that makes you complacent. But if you take any kind of poison then you are defeating the purpose of taking medicine in the first place.
Is there some type of tincture that is made from cannabis that instantly calms besides dabs? Any way to make psychadelic bho...?

Tincture. Liquid form , only seen the bottle . But yes very concentrated. So it's good ☺

420 lyfePpP · Oct 5, 2015

kbellfoy said:
Being in the UK we call meds by different names so plz excuse my ignorance. In the UK our doctors are on salary. It's actually quite hard to get a diagnosis never mind any meds to help. I had to wait 26 weeks just for an appointment with a psychiatrist. Then I was told I was just depressed. My god I could have ripped his head off! Took me 3 years of pushing to get a proper diagnosis. But on the other hand we don't have to pay. Our mental health system is so overwhelmed they can't cope. Also I think that there must be doctors out there with mental health issues too. After all they aren't immune. Yes.....thank god for mj

Wow that's crazy . I was in the system all my childhood and one of main problems . Takes forever to get a shrink. Still Tryin and no one wants too act as they should be towards fact . And suicide rates rise as do mass tragedy . But if it were their relatives and loved ones all would be done for them . Likety split. Pick and choose who qualify. Two tier systems. Sad teally

420 lyfePpP · Oct 5, 2015

420 lyfePpP said:
Yeah

Tincture. Liquid form , only seen the bottle . But yes very concentrated. So it's good ☺

It's been said that the government in the 60s knew what R.S.O could do and have a patent on cannabis oil.

420 lyfePpP · Oct 5, 2015

epitome said:
I entertain the idea of therapeutic psychedelics because you take them rarely instead of taking them every day like pills. Plus, the worry of side effects when my pills aren't taken on time or consistently available...it's scary to know list of side effects of sudden stoppage are as long as the side effects of taking them to begin with, which add up to twice as many side effects before starting any of that shit.

My seizure problem is heavily on record and was given that depressant it caused seizures by the day . Granmail seizures. Beat by cops and shit . Ran thru a Chinese food buffet and splashed in pond smashed my face up. Winter in my shorts an barefoot . I had too refuse at drug store . Get them to call my doc and listen. Shove pills down people's throats or have them live in fear that they need it and can't stop it. . Here's a shirt I wear proudly in support of DR.KAMMERMANS. .. "CURE SOMETIMES, TREAT OFTEN, CARE ALWAYS." Canadian mmj docs words .

kbellfoy · Oct 6, 2015

420 lyfePpP said:
Wow that's crazy . I was in the system all my childhood and one of main problems . Takes forever to get a shrink. Still Tryin and no one wants too act as they should be towards fact . And suicide rates rise as do mass tragedy . But if it were their relatives and loved ones all would be done for them . Likety split. Pick and choose who qualify. Two tier systems. Sad teally

Sounds like a layer cake....those on the bottom don't get much. That's really sad that any system is run like that. No wonder crime rates are rising. I don't know your meds like I said but the anti depressants over here all come with a warning. MAY CAUSE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS. I mean really...come on. Why give that to ppl already on the edge? So is it a long process over in the USA too? I think you absolutely right about some getting better treatment. It's not what u know but who u know. Nepotism at its best.

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