BearWater said:

Im with you RoadKill! : ) if he waits another week those half cloudy trichomes will be full on cloudy and everything else will be that much further along or even more so with less weight time.

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BearWater said:

I think the step harvest could come into play if OP waits the week and takes al the tops. That stuff underneath could use that extra time and then be something : ) i only bring that up because I’ve watched dudes leave POUNDS worth of smalls and littles on the bottom of plants. They’d take off and id watch all that little Larfy stuff turn to great smokable buds! : )

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BearWater said:

I was just out looking at mine. It really does take a few grows to see the trichomes well through the loupe and to know what you are looking for : )

One thing so far for me that has been consistent across the plants, is the sugar leaves seem to start the amber a week or so before things really start doing their thing on the buds! So if i see some “brownish dusting” on the sugar leaves i know things are getting close. Then you just gotta get out there daily to look. Take a bud and see if you like smoking that. If not you know to wait a little longer. Now mind you the trichomes will continue to degrade after harvest so if you are at 100% milky you will get into amber at some point during your drying and curring (i dont know specifics on that though, i just know its a thing)

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backyard_brewster147 said:

I've heard mixed things on the trichome degradation- i know it relies on the drying process mostly, but I've seen some people claim cloudy trichomes will sometimes return to clear?

I am planning on doing a dry trim, and turning the trim/popcorn into hash then rosin.

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backyard_brewster147 said:

I have a 3 ton heated hydraulic press from dabpress; ive experimented on my old hash from last grow and some herb i got from a dispensary, but nothing from fresh herb yet. About an O of hash turned into about 2g of rosin, and it was very, very dark.

Part of my reasoning with doing a sequential harvest is to turn the buds that endure the CO cold into live rosin, though this year it really hasn't been that cold. Plus once the bud is in the 5 gallon bin, to my understanding, there's no difference in making rosin vs live rosin.

I'm still a noob in that regard though.

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backyard_brewster147 said:

I have a 3 ton heated hydraulic press from dabpress; ive experimented on my old hash from last grow and some herb i got from a dispensary, but nothing from fresh herb yet. About an O of hash turned into about 2g of rosin, and it was very, very dark.

Part of my reasoning with doing a sequential harvest is to turn the buds that endure the CO cold into live rosin, though this year it really hasn't been that cold. Plus once the bud is in the 5 gallon bin, to my understanding, there's no difference in making rosin vs live rosin.

I'm still a noob in that regard though.

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Terpy_Burpz said:

Voted yes. The pink hairs would be nice to preserve before they go brown, for bag appeal. There are plenty of Amber trichomes, so it will be a nice balanced smoke right now. Plenty of psychedelic energy, but enough to take you down into the couch, should you push it a bit further. Too many amber trichromes make Terpy a dull boy!

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backyard_brewster147 said:

I'm going to try and do a daily update, if I can

I'm thinking I will harvest this one in the next 24-48hrs. It will be a good gauge for when to harvest the big one, though I'm hoping a bit more bulk gets added before I harvest those tops. Likely 1-2 weeks for that one, thanks to comments on here. I will post pics

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RoadKillSkunkHunt said:

I hope you're talking about harvesting only 1 or buds to test things out. It's still pretty immature for harvest ... all of your plants. This is also the single biggest mistake beginning growers make ... harvesting too soon.

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Terpy_Burpz said:

It's a personal preference at the end of the day. Personally, I prefer mostly milky trichomes; they give me energy, are psychedelic as hell and put me back down exactly where they found me. Enabling me to go about my day with my symptoms medicated AND the energy to do things. We can't just say some people are making mistakes when some genuinely have reasons for what they do. A plant in a mostly living state, as opposed to a plant that has passed the fullcrum and is practically dead at the cellular level, is offering vitality and energy in its smoke and vapour. If you are after that (you don't need sativa for that) effect, which a LOT of medicinal users are, then this is a good time to harvest. If you prefer a deeper sedative effect, then the more amber the trichomes, the better. Because it's a preference, there are NO rights or wrongs. What is right is determined by each person's individual needs and abilities.

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RoadKillSkunkHunt said:

True, its personal preferance but this is nonsense you telling him to purposely pick a plant based on the colors of premature pistils. When it dries, you have preserved nothing except immature weed. If it were actually in the harvest window, you would have a case for picking based on preference. It's not even there yet.

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Terpy_Burpz said:

Incorrect, you can preserve the pink colours by harvesting at the right time. So much knowledge i thought you might have known that already mate. I harvest most of my massively, awesome, flawless plants when they are almost ALL milky as much as that may make you gnash and wail. There is no nonsense here; it's a preference. Yes, prerogatives are a bitch..but only to other people lol
These plants are beautifully grown, and for my medicinal requirements, I'd have already harvested them. 20% of what I grow I leave to fade out completely, the rest I harvest milky as mate. Again, whether you like that or not, it's a personal preference. I got an old lady patient who just wants the leaves for tea. It's not our place to say what's right or wrong. I'm simply offering my opinion, based on my personal requirements. So there is no such thing as a harvest window, mate. Some people grow them for micro greens, y'know.. not our place to say thats wrong or not.

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RoadKillSkunkHunt said:

You're wrong about those plants being ready. You can fight me all you want. It doesn't change that you're doing the grower a disservice by suggesting he harvest an immature plant. Dissing me all you want doesn't change the facts here.

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Terpy_Burpz said:

I'm not deliberately dissing you... I'm just a cheeky bugger, is all. The poll was about what our personal thoughts were in regards to when the right time to harvest these plants was. That's all I did. Lest I remind you, it was you dissing me for sharing my opinion...just to clarify things, eh! So kindly wind it in a bit, yeah, it's just a poll. Who cares what I think at the end of the day? I've given good reason for why I do what I do, and that's what the poll asked for me/everyone to share. It doesnt say jump on the comment of the first person you disagree with, comment negatively and hijack an entire thread because something that person said put your nose out of joint. Go on with your bad self!

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RoadKillSkunkHunt said:

show me the amber you claim to have seen.

You've given him bad information and now you're trying to frame it as personal preference.

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SlingShot said:

awesome work so far, well done, and the pinks look amazing, I'm an indoor guy, though about to southern hemi plant an outty, and it's only been since I've been reading the outdoor threads that the level of apprehension relating to when to harvest, the now, or wait, or when, has become apparent, regarding the weather, detection in locals of concern, pests and diseases, and more, much to consider, you seemed to have nailed it up till now, I'm sure you'll nail this remaining week or two, all the best.

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BearWater said:

I was just out looking at mine. It really does take a few grows to see the trichomes well through the loupe and to know what you are looking for : )

One thing so far for me that has been consistent across the plants, is the sugar leaves seem to start the amber a week or so before things really start doing their thing on the buds! So if i see some “brownish dusting” on the sugar leaves i know things are getting close. Then you just gotta get out there daily to look. Take a bud and see if you like smoking that. If not you know to wait a little longer. Now mind you the trichomes will continue to degrade after harvest so if you are at 100% milky you will get into amber at some point during your drying and curring (i dont know specifics on that though, i just know its a thing)

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backyard_brewster147 said:

I've done indoor on and off for a couple decades, there's a good amount to consider there too. Best advice i got then was proper lighting and airflow, but I was never worried about my neighbors then.

Already being a gardener (I grow fruits and perennials) helps with the outdoor stuff to a degree, i feel like the mulching and blood/bone meal wouldn't be necessary indoors. The latter attracts all types- ive seen mountain lions and Foxes in my backyard, though that may be because of the chickens.

I'll post some more pics soon, I am going to give both plants the week I think.

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