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Looking for advice from anyone in and around halifax, NS....Hoping to obtain license to grow medical grade mj and don't know really where to begin. Has anyone already gone though the process? Any help would be tremendously appreciated! Cheers!
 
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Looking for advice from anyone in and around halifax, NS....Hoping to obtain license to grow medical grade mj and don't know really where to begin. Has anyone already gone though the process? Any help would be tremendously appreciated! Cheers!

WHat question are you asking here??Start with typing it in the net peace out Headband707:smiley_joint:
 
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I'm in NL, so just next door, any question you hav feel free to ask as i help most folks around here going through the process. Its not hard, just a bunch of red tape to go through really.
 
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I'd love to hear more as well...where to start? How do you qualify to grow and what kind of limitations do they place on you...in terms of plant numbers? Is there any good info on the net? I'd rather start by hearing the experiences of those who have gone through it than try to make sense of some govt website...to start with atleast.
 
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Well for one there is different amounts for different reasons. 99 being the limit. I think they might have taken that limit off not sure.. One person can grow for himself and 2 others . They want you to set it up so that a fire chief could come in your home and the whole thing would pass without a problem and cause no fire hasard to anyone.They want you to own your house and if you don't you need permission from your landlord to grow.Each city has it's own rules and you have to read those rules there is no way around that. Here in BC if they show up at your door they will charge you $5000.00 for having to do that for wasting thier time.
They don't make it easy and you have to dot all your I's and croos you T's all the way . Also the Gov.'s rules they have so fucking many there is no way around that either. .
I guess it's important to remember that if your legal and you can do this then by all means do it. Peace out Headband707
 
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Hey guys, I'll run down through a few things here, one being, that if you have a license for yourself, you are not able to grow for any other patients. This is something I've been trying to work out myself and they are unyielding on it. You can grow for 3 people as a designated grower, for which to qualify you need a criminal record check, no drug charges for 10 years previous, and you must get the crim check that you have to give you finger prints for.

Theres no real limit, i think marco renda is up to 137 now, somewhere around there anyway. I'm at 73 myself, so not close to that. The average they say is 3-5 gs, and above a limit of 5 they will call your doctor, but not to threaten or anything, simply to warn of potential health risks, bullshit stuff, you know.

1 residence can obtain 3 separate med grows, but must be sectioned off from one another. Also, no other med patient of designated grower can touch another med patients or designated growers plants, so they can not help each other that way, but as long as plants arent touched its legal.

The process at the moment will take about 10-12 weeks to get through authorization, so make sure to get everything in quickly and correctly. The folks on the phones are actually quite good and supportive, I dont know about the ones behind the office doors, but the front line is good, so be sure to contact them. the number is on the health canada website.

You must grow the governments seed stock (lol) just keep the same rules as ordering while illegal, different addy. And make sure all electrical and plumbing will pass an inspection, cause they love to hassle about that. I have no trouble with the cops at all, but the city counsel fucked with me for a while . That was 3 years ago though, and never heard from them since, so I wouldnt worry about that.

Other than that not much more about it, oh, and the part that says to notify the police does not mean they contact the cops and tell them your a med grower, it means that if you get raided and they call the MMAR, they have the right to say yes you are a legal patient and they are not able to cut the meds if not rules are being broken.

I think thats about it, if theres anything else anyone wants to know ask away, I've been helping folks get their licenses for a few years now, so I've managed my way around a bit of red tape at least.
 
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Theres no real limit, i think marco renda is up to 137 now, somewhere around there anyway. I'm at 73 myself, so not close to that. The average they say is 3-5 gs, and above a limit of 5 they will call your doctor, but not to threaten or anything, simply to warn of potential health risks, bullshit stuff, you know.

Sorry I'm a bit foggy from yesterday :smiley_joint: but I had some trouble comprehending this paragraph. I guess you are talkin plant numbers then when you say 3-5 gs are you saying that is how much smoke they allow you daily...if you grow more than that they call your doctor?

And the big question is about getting qualified to be medical...I definately feel the herb replaces atleast 3 different meds I'd need. Is this based on a particular doctor's recommendation? And if I grow for 3 others, they would need the same type of doctor's recommendation?

TIA for your help :stonedsmilie:
 
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Thats going to be your hardest part. Not to get a Dr. to allow you to get a card to smoke pot you don't need their permision for that. You do need it for the gro. One thing you might want to do is ask ppl in the clubs or ask the clubs themselves unless Big Bubby has other ideas? If you qualify that shouldn't be a problem and your Dr. shouldn't be giving you a hard time and if you have a Dr. that is giving you a hard time then you have the wrong Dr. and you should tell them so.

I do know one person that was checked by the police but he was high profile and had a website and he has been the only person I know that was inspected by everyone so it can happen but it's rare.

I would say somthing like" I have found that Tricome toffee works very well on my pain and is very expensive to make,too expensive. I want to save my liver and start to grow pot and make my own for pain". Peace out Headband707
 
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Sorry I'm a bit foggy from yesterday :smiley_joint: but I had some trouble comprehending this paragraph. I guess you are talkin plant numbers then when you say 3-5 gs are you saying that is how much smoke they allow you daily...if you grow more than that they call your doctor?

And the big question is about getting qualified to be medical...I definately feel the herb replaces atleast 3 different meds I'd need. Is this based on a particular doctor's recommendation? And if I grow for 3 others, they would need the same type of doctor's recommendation?

TIA for your help :stonedsmilie:

Sorry, see i fI can be a bit more clear. There is no set limit for plant or daily amount of usable dried meds, they correspond to each other. Also HC will take certain things into account, i.e., if your in a wheel chair, and grow your own, then they will be less concerned of plant limit as the person may simply need smaller plants so they can work with them. Thats one of the things that have been changed, they used to be very hard on the plant.grams limits.

And its not if you grow more than that, its when you first apply, if your doctor prescribes you more than 5 grams a day (usually comes out to be 25 plants, at 73 plants, i have a daily dosage of 15 grams). Now if you grow more once you have your license, then your immediately considered illegal, and they wont charge you with 1 plant if you grow 26 with a 25 plant limit, the'll charge you with 26 illegal plants, so watch your numbers. All this being said, again, there is no limit, just a potential health warning call to your doctor, oh, and there is a form that you can sign that puts all responsibility on you for insurance, now that doesnt mean anything for you in terms of your insurance co or anything, as they will cover nothing, it means your doctor can not be held responsible by your insurance co if anything happens to you that can potentially be blamed on medical mari. So thats a good thing to do too if your doc is hesitant.

Now sadly as I say, if you yourself have a lilcense to grow for yourself, or even a license to hold, you are not allowed to grow for any other med patients. Designated growers can not be patients, its one of the biggest piles of bullshit in the system, I could provide this entire province with meds from one house, and i'd do it for free, but they know that there is less chance of folks getting designated growers that are not already growing (just harder to find and set up, you know the hassles involved in that, or can assume I'm sure) than it is for them to simply pay for the trash from the government, and for the love of god dont smoke that shit, that stuff is crazy gross.

Thats going to be your hardest part. Not to get a Dr. to allow you to get a card to smoke pot you don't need their permision for that. You do need it for the gro. One thing you might want to do is ask ppl in the clubs or ask the clubs themselves unless Big Bubby has other ideas? If you qualify that shouldn't be a problem and your Dr. shouldn't be giving you a hard time and if you have a Dr. that is giving you a hard time then you have the wrong Dr. and you should tell them so.

I do know one person that was checked by the police but he was high profile and had a website and he has been the only person I know that was inspected by everyone so it can happen but it's rare.

I would say somthing like" I have found that Tricome toffee works very well on my pain and is very expensive to make,too expensive. I want to save my liver and start to grow pot and make my own for pain". Peace out Headband707

Ya bro, the hard part is the doctor hands down, Health Can is actually pretty easy to deal with, in fact, they were late sending me my papers last year, and they ladies advice when I asked if i had to cut down my plants in the mean time (lololololololol fuck that)was to, "exercise digression till it arrives", lol.

The police raided me back when my limit was only 49 plants. The reason is kind of funny though, I've been collecting genetics for a rather long time now, needless to say I grew long before i ever had a license. I've got one particular plant, a pheno of somas lavender, its a straight up freak, never seen one like it since, and it reaks. I've got ogs, Chemdog D, Chemdog #4, Chemdog 91, chem kush, purple ksuh, ssh nevilles haze, over 30 rare elite moms now, and not one of them, fuck, the whole room combined cant come close to the smell of this lavender. The chems are like a fart in the wind compared to it. Well, I always got a kick out of the fact that my buddies would smell my house from 4-5 streets over as they drove to my place, then one day I got a knock on the door. here were 8 plain clothes cops, they put me under arrest, and the reason was they believed I had in excess of 200 plants growing. Long story short(and by the way the reason the city hassled me, if the cops come, they'll have everything inspected)the reason they came here was because they could smell the lavender on water street, 1 km away, there was 1 plant of it in the room, lol. Now i am also a very high profile med grower, as I say, I'm the one that helps out the patients here, give them free meds, help them set up rooms, teach them what to do, blah blah blah, same as half of you guys I'm sure. Also been on CBC radio fighting for low income patients rights, university newspapers, reference for doctors(this is newfie, they know nothing about med herb here at all) and am in the process of starting the newfoundland medical marijuana association, by the way, anyone know the way to go about setting up a non proffit organization?

So ya, hows that for more typing then I planned on doing to day, lol.
 
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Thanks for all the info...I'm still rather unclear about the plant number regulations...are you saying, if they give me 25 plants limit and I grow 26...then the whole set up is illegal but all they do is notify my Dr that I'm using too much or I would I get busted?

My current family Dr won't be any help he's pretty old and on his way to retirement soon...pretty sure he'd laugh at the mention of medical mj, and offer me some nice hard prescription drugs instead. I will have to look around for a good Dr, they're hard to find around here.
 
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Thanks for all the info...I'm still rather unclear about the plant number regulations...are you saying, if they give me 25 plants limit and I grow 26...then the whole set up is illegal but all they do is notify my Dr that I'm using too much or I would I get busted?

My current family Dr won't be any help he's pretty old and on his way to retirement soon...pretty sure he'd laugh at the mention of medical mj, and offer me some nice hard prescription drugs instead. I will have to look around for a good Dr, they're hard to find around here.


Oh no, if your over your licensed plant limit they'll bust you, now thats up to the cops, they might just make you cut down the extra and give youa warning not to do it again, I've seen that happen. The time when health canada will call your doctor is if he prescribes you more than 5 grams a day, this is before you even get approved for the license. So thats at the time the application goes in to health canada, its got nothing to do with being illegal, they just tell your doctor about potential stress on the heart lungs, all stuff we know is bull. If you go over your plant limit, when you have your license, then its considered an illegal grow, your doctor has nothing to do with anything if that happens.
 
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Thanks for all the info Buddy....last question is 25 plants the usual amount approved?
 
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15-25, but if your doctor has no issue with higher, even if they call, you'll have no trouble.
 
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first of all i would like to say thank jh420 for opening this thread, now i gotta question, i phoned hc and they were telling me that you will have to go under some test from their own doctors to prove that you are really ill, so basicall if you get ur doctor to sign the forms then you can grow? i also found out that hc try to pressure doctors not to sign the forms or they will take their licence away is that true?do you all know a doctor in ontario that leanant?
 
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No, theres no test from their doctor, I assume it was awhile ago. Theres been some court decissions recently that have forced HC to not be able to pressure doctors, it was happening thats for sure, but they cant do that anymore. You'll need to have your doctor sign, and to have consulted a specialist relative to your condition, but the specialist doesnt have to sign, or even agree, they are never contacted, you simply have to consult one about med mj, and your doctors word is taken at face. They can check MCP records anyway, so not like you could fake it in the first place. There was a time when people were issured exemptions, it was back then that all the hassle, investigations of doctors, all that jazz was going on. The exemptees have it, thats it, they cant be touched, and they dont need to renew, thats why it was changed to a license, now you have to renew every year, another way for them to fuck you, if your doctor retires, good luck finding another one, and theres another patient off the list.
 
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Okay first off if you have certain condtions lets that your in Chronic pain or you have Arthritis ,Fibromyagia, Glacoma,etc. and you have a Dr. not helping you all you need is a Dr's note stating you have this condition. Then all you need to do is bring this note to the clubs and they will issue a card to smoke medical marijuana.
Now for growing and the number of plants they will allow also depends on your condition and how much pain the doctor thinks your in and what you need. For example Aids , Arthritis, and so on. Some ppl don't need to smoke as much as others and this too is determined through individuale consulations with said Dr's.The best way to do this is to call the clubs and they can help you with this. The Green Cross is very helpful . I hope that helps peace out Headband707:smiley_joint:
 
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Sorry, see i fI can be a bit more clear. There is no set limit for plant or daily amount of usable dried meds, they correspond to each other. Also HC will take certain things into account, i.e., if your in a wheel chair, and grow your own, then they will be less concerned of plant limit as the person may simply need smaller plants so they can work with them. Thats one of the things that have been changed, they used to be very hard on the plant.grams limits.

And its not if you grow more than that, its when you first apply, if your doctor prescribes you more than 5 grams a day (usually comes out to be 25 plants, at 73 plants, i have a daily dosage of 15 grams). Now if you grow more once you have your license, then your immediately considered illegal, and they wont charge you with 1 plant if you grow 26 with a 25 plant limit, the'll charge you with 26 illegal plants, so watch your numbers. All this being said, again, there is no limit, just a potential health warning call to your doctor, oh, and there is a form that you can sign that puts all responsibility on you for insurance, now that doesnt mean anything for you in terms of your insurance co or anything, as they will cover nothing, it means your doctor can not be held responsible by your insurance co if anything happens to you that can potentially be blamed on medical mari. So thats a good thing to do too if your doc is hesitant.

Now sadly as I say, if you yourself have a lilcense to grow for yourself, or even a license to hold, you are not allowed to grow for any other med patients. Designated growers can not be patients, its one of the biggest piles of bullshit in the system, I could provide this entire province with meds from one house, and i'd do it for free, but they know that there is less chance of folks getting designated growers that are not already growing (just harder to find and set up, you know the hassles involved in that, or can assume I'm sure) than it is for them to simply pay for the trash from the government, and for the love of god dont smoke that shit, that stuff is crazy gross.



Ya bro, the hard part is the doctor hands down, Health Can is actually pretty easy to deal with, in fact, they were late sending me my papers last year, and they ladies advice when I asked if i had to cut down my plants in the mean time (lololololololol fuck that)was to, "exercise digression till it arrives", lol.

The police raided me back when my limit was only 49 plants. The reason is kind of funny though, I've been collecting genetics for a rather long time now, needless to say I grew long before i ever had a license. I've got one particular plant, a pheno of somas lavender, its a straight up freak, never seen one like it since, and it reaks. I've got ogs, Chemdog D, Chemdog #4, Chemdog 91, chem kush, purple ksuh, ssh nevilles haze, over 30 rare elite moms now, and not one of them, fuck, the whole room combined cant come close to the smell of this lavender. The chems are like a fart in the wind compared to it. Well, I always got a kick out of the fact that my buddies would smell my house from 4-5 streets over as they drove to my place, then one day I got a knock on the door. here were 8 plain clothes cops, they put me under arrest, and the reason was they believed I had in excess of 200 plants growing. Long story short(and by the way the reason the city hassled me, if the cops come, they'll have everything inspected)the reason they came here was because they could smell the lavender on water street, 1 km away, there was 1 plant of it in the room, lol. Now i am also a very high profile med grower, as I say, I'm the one that helps out the patients here, give them free meds, help them set up rooms, teach them what to do, blah blah blah, same as half of you guys I'm sure. Also been on CBC radio fighting for low income patients rights, university newspapers, reference for doctors(this is newfie, they know nothing about med herb here at all) and am in the process of starting the newfoundland medical marijuana association, by the way, anyone know the way to go about setting up a non proffit organization?

So ya, hows that for more typing then I planned on doing to day, lol.

Ya got me drooling lol lol .. Got to love it when shit like that happens lol...Glad to see it's all for the good. I know the Compassion club here start by non proffit you could ask them see if they might share? Sounds like you got some wicked shit peace out Headband707:smiley_joint
 

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