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Anyone Using Alaska Fish Fertilizer?

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Anyone Using Alaska Fish Fertilizer?

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Galgrows said:
I've used both many times on outdoor grows.
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The trick is using both... 5-1-1 isn't a good enough ratio for the veg so you can slip a little of the 0-10-10 in there. Then when you flip, you flip the nutes too, put the 0-10-10 up front with a little bit of the 5-1-1 to fill in that missing N. But it's mostly amonnia N so you need some good microbe conversion in the soil turning the amonnia to nitrate. It leaves gaps though. You want to have a couple supplemental things around, a source of cal+mag, micro nutes, and some humic/fulvic, maybe some silica and your pretty much set for any deficiency thrown your way if you're using Alaska or Lennox fish products. I'm not picky, I'll use Lennox, Grow Big, Big Bloom, I don't really care and I don't think the plant does either, I'm really looking for that ratio... and a proper concentration of it. Since I don't get it straight from one bottle, I mix like a mad alchemist.
 
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I had been using EWC for nitrogen add. When I got behind on my amendments I used fish shit to halt a bad nitrogen fade. IMO it works faster than EWC and gets down in the soil better.
Now I got 2 bags of EWC for outside garden I guess ....
 
#23
JIMKSI64 said:
I had been using EWC for nitrogen add. When I got behind on my amendments I used fish shit to halt a bad nitrogen fade. IMO it works faster than EWC and gets down in the soil better.
Now I got 2 bags of EWC for outside garden I guess ....
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Dont sell your EWC short... It's nitrate N and the preferred type of N for cannabis. It offers a slow gentle release and while it may not be able to keep up with full demand, helps keep it from bottoming out. Then when you slip some of that fish shit in there in modest amounts, the ammonia N is a nice top off for the plant. Use them together if you can, they're almost symbiotic. You're installing a nitrogen engine and then giving it fuel.
 
#24
Ninjadogma said:
Dont sell your EWC short... It's nitrate N and the preferred type of N for cannabis. It offers a slow gentle release and while it may not be able to keep up with full demand, helps keep it from bottoming out. Then when you slip some of that fish shit in there in modest amounts, the ammonia N is a nice top off for the plant. Use them together if you can, they're almost symbiotic. You're installing a nitrogen engine and then giving it fuel.
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What is EWC, please. I keep hearing about it.
 
#26
Ninjadogma said:
Dont sell your EWC short... It's nitrate N and the preferred type of N for cannabis. It offers a slow gentle release and while it may not be able to keep up with full demand, helps keep it from bottoming out. Then when you slip some of that fish shit in there in modest amounts, the ammonia N is a nice top off for the plant. Use them together if you can, they're almost symbiotic. You're installing a nitrogen engine and then giving it fuel.
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Did you know they make EWC on different strength?
My first black rose bag was .1 0 0
The next 2 bags different brand list. .065 0 0
Sigh ....
 
#29
I've used a fish and kelp liquid amendment. It's high in nitrogen, IIRC. I mostly pre-mix or top dress dry nutrients, though. Liquid organic nutrients are nice to use to deliver nutrients quickly. It's probably best to use it mostly during vegetation.
 
#30
Lovely thread.

I look at my reused soil as a long term compost.
I like fish but I also add fresh ground coffee into as 5-gal bucket of water I already "bubbled" 24 hours.

So I also add bedding from my Guinea Pigs. Yes, pine shavings, pee and poo.

In this bubble we also can add sugars like molasses.

I have noticed Azomite seems to be a real benefit here. I add a TBS.

So yeah, Fish is a goodly thing and yes the bigger the plant the more nitrogen they can consume.
And Yes! A biologically active system is what we do when we are using organic materials,
 
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Zzzax said:
Lovely thread.

I look at my reused soil as a long term compost.
I like fish but I also add fresh ground coffee into as 5-gal bucket of water I already "bubbled" 24 hours.

So I also add bedding from my Guinea Pigs. Yes, pine shavings, pee and poo.

In this bubble we also can add sugars like molasses.

I have noticed Azomite seems to be a real benefit here. I add a TBS.

So yeah, Fish is a goodly thing and yes the bigger the plant the more nitrogen they can consume.
And Yes! A biologically active system is what we do when we are using organic materials,
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I sure hope your brewing that coffee first. First....that's a disgrace to the bean gods.šŸ˜† Second....toxic if not brewed.

Like decarboxylation of weed to activate its potential, coffee must be brewed
I use um in my grow too... kitchen scraps per day.
 
#34
This is a next area to look at for me. Sea-based tissue, plant or animal is more bio-available but honestly a strange mix for land plants. I think this is why it's always used in combination. So as I'm content with H&G for veg and Fox Farm for flower... with some pinches of that old budcharge crap. I guess it's not a bad supplement if your nutes are over targeted and I can tend to do that, hoping the microrhesus critters do the work or have somehow banked excess veg feed N and Cal and Mag. I use less epsom water in flower over all.
 
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ChairmanFester said:
This is a next area to look at for me. Sea-based tissue, plant or animal is more bio-available but honestly a strange mix for land plants. I think this is why it's always used in combination. So as I'm content with H&G for veg and Fox Farm for flower... with some pinches of that old budcharge crap. I guess it's not a bad supplement if your nutes are over targeted and I can tend to do that, hoping the microrhesus critters do the work or have somehow banked excess veg feed N and Cal and Mag. I use less epsom water in flower over all.
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Not if you think about the birds bringing that in and leaving scraps in the wild. Before America was America early settlers learned from native Indians (Squanto) to drop fish (Menhaden) with their corn seeds.
 
#36
Just a caveat, using it on outdoor plants can attract things like raccoons, possums, etc, and sometines they'll dig up the roots trying to find that "smell".
 
#37
Phyto said:
Just a caveat, using it on outdoor plants can attract things like raccoons, possums, etc, and sometines they'll dig up the roots trying to find that "smell".
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Still want my trained Puma that can do a possum........
 
#39
wilinski said:
It stinks so bad ! I dig a trench around the plant , fertilize ,cover and water!
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I bury my fish immediately after filleting, before it starts stinking. It's fresh caught, so it might sit overnight at most, if I'm lazy. I just have to worry about the cats n trash panda's finding it.šŸ˜†
 
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Phyto said:
Just a caveat, using it on outdoor plants can attract things like raccoons, possums, etc, and sometines they'll dig up the roots trying to find that "smell".
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I put them in the garden, too. What enters the garden, is absorbed by it.
I put 2 ground hogs , 3 opossum, 3 trash panda's in my garden last year alone. One being a alpha female that got into my attic. Was like confronting a small grizzly bear, in a closed environment šŸ˜‚

If left unchecked in my parts, they can devistate the small yards n gardens in my neighborhood.

Fixing sauffett, and gutters every year gets old and costly. A pellet is cheaper, and the animals don't go to waste. Don't take pleasure in it, so I bitch at my neighbor for the lack of maintenance of his property. 150x100' lot beside me and across the street from me. Rotted buildings, overgrown in brush. Perfect breeding grounds.
 
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