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Agree with you 100% we order all Aptus from Holland, Fuck Aptus America , They take same stuff put into an orange bottle and raise the price threw the roof, The 1st post has a good link as to where to buy the Aputs.Aptus USA prices are to ridiculous for me to take them seriously, if your doing a small run using there nutrients you could literally go buy yourself some quality flowers for cheaper than what it would cost you to use there nutrients. When I did a run using there line I bought them from Europe for about half what it would cost for the American version so l cant speak for the quality of the American products, the European version was high quality and had a surprisingly long shelf life for a organic product. Aptus USA dont come off like real growers to me, they come off like sales men that bought into the company. Now that a few companies are offering silicic acid for a third of the price of facilitator there days are numbered.
As far as using one nutrient for veg and bloom I've been running Heavy 16 Bud there bloom formula for veg and bloom for a couple years, Ive learned I prefer the bloom formula for veg, my plants are heartier and more compact. I believe all the newer science suggest you dont need two separate formulas for veg and bloom, blooming plants need more nitrogen than once thought and less phosphorus.
We were probably up there with Aptus's largest customers. We ran h16 and Aptus RELIGIOUSLY for years. But the company and the products have really gone to shit. H16 is still a solid base but I'd highly recommend staying away from Aptus all together. They're sheisters and their products are inconsistent these days. Haven't ran the all in on liquid yet but imagine it probably sucks just like the rest of their line.
V+B really has gotten our attention, we're waiting for samples now. If you're ruining all liquids I gotta say, Mills definitely pays the bills. We just did a run of Plagron nutes and it definitely did well, will publish results and update the journal shortly.
Just my 2 pennies anyway.
If you are going by the price, then I agree 1000%. I am lucky to pay cost +10%, so I am getting fasilitor for $260 a liter rather than $475. I only run startboost and fasilitor of their products, so I am not as much familiar with the rest of the line. I was more questioning if the quality has really gone down or not. I have not seen changes, thus my question. In terms of price, I can't fathom how anyone pays full retail for the aptus line.
The reason we have higher costs is transport, registrations, Higher salries and higher taxes here in the USA compared to Holland. Everything is made and bottled in Holland.
Aptus Holland makes all the products for Aptus USA and we have much higher expenses and taxes here in the USA. We are not doing anything different to any other international brand. We may look greedy but our margins are really small after all the expenses in the USAAptus USA are some seriously greedy imbeciles, I dont trust them or any of there products, but Aptus Holland is legit and there the ones putting out the All in one liquid. Im looking forward to giving it a try, you only need 4ml a gallon and you dont need to adjust the PH and no extra carrier ballast salts and chlorides like every other nutrient brand, that sounds pretty awesome.
Hey Dirty Sanchez, What did you think about Plagrons Green Sensation?
It made my buds blow the fuck up, but it made some plants light sensitive, that makes me think there must be some PGRs in there, hopefully not some of the bad ones, but I haven't seen buds blow up and get rock hard like that since I used Gravity.
Then why not save money and sell directly to the costumer and quit fucking around with the over priced B/S grow shops that everyone loves to hate and will do anything to avoid paying 10X more ?
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