Aptus Facilitator....

Donkdbz · May 7, 2012

Found ya

OSAB3 http://www.silife.nl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=80

So at 1st I thought it was just over priced protek but I was wrong. They is good science behind it but as typical. They just found from the agriculture industry.

Any other special Aptus stuff is probable here

and there bloom boost
promalin

SweetTooth · May 7, 2012

I don't understand your reference to promalin? Promalin is a foliar spray made by valent bioscience

Donkdbz · May 7, 2012

Promalin has two ingredients. The first is a mixture of two natural gibberellins commonly found
in plants: Gibberellins 4 and Gibberellins 7. The second is a compound also found in nature
classified as a cytokinin, 6-Benzyladenine

bloom boost

Vitamins promotes hormone production
o Gebbelerines for shooting
o Cytokinins for cellular division

SweetTooth · May 7, 2012

Yes, I am aware of this but i don't understand what any of this has to do with Aptus Facilitator???

Capulator · May 7, 2012

I think donk is just busting Aptus in general.

Donkdbz · May 8, 2012

Silica Mineral Supplement is a solution of silicic acid, Si(OH)4 in water - the concentration of which is approximately 2.5% by weight (measured as silica, SiO2). Silicic acid is absorbed in the human gastrointestinal (GI) tract and transported throughout the body where it is used in the production and maintenance of collagen and connective tissue. Animal studies have demonstrated that silica is an essential trace element and that a deficiency of silica in the diet can produce dramatic bone and cartilage abnormalities.
Silicic acid is stable in solution at very low concentrations, but will combine to form oligomers at higher concentrations (above - 100ppm) as show in the following chemical equation:

Note that there is an equilibrium condition between silicic acid and oligomers which means that as silicic acid is removed (i.e. absorbed by the GI tract), the remaining oligomers break down to form additional silicic acid. In this way, Silica Mineral Supplement will provide as much silicic acid as the body demands. The particle size of the oligomers is less than 10 nanometers which allows them to be readily dispersed in solution. Silica has a faint bluish haze, owing to the tendency of these small particles to form larger agglomerates, which can nonetheless be easily broken down to silicic acid. The bluish haze is created because of the tendency of silica oligomers to reflect the blue portion of the visible light spectrum, similar to air or water molecules. During the production of Silica the pH is adjusted to be very close to neutral and typically lies in the range of pH=7-8 (the typical pH of tap water, eggs or crackers). Silicic acid is completely non-toxic.

found a company and its local
I bought a small bottle of faciclitator just to see if it works. it looks yellow butt the dry stuff and side of the bottle turns blue.

this company says silica has a faint bluish haze, owing to the tendency of these small particles to form larger agglomerates, which can nonetheless be easily broken down to silicic acid.

Donkdbz · May 8, 2012

SweetTooth said:
Yes, I am aware of this but i don't understand what any of this has to do with Aptus Facilitator???

go to the aptus usa website and watch the video

After reading through a bunch of stuff Foliar spray Facilitator may kick ass and save a ton of cash. My only concern is I dunno how much Molybdenum can be applied foliar. will research.

FlyingSkull · May 13, 2012

Was reading about there "Flagship" product which is the Facilitator product. One thing to remember is that if you have strong biology in your media, you do not need this expensive formula to achieve the same goals. You can use regular silica products that are much cheaper. It is just that the silica has to be converted by the micro-biology in the soil first to Silicic Acid which is the ONLY form the plants can use and uptake. And if you do not have a strong biology active in your media then you will not be able to take advantage of what a silica product can do.

There are also MANY products on the market like "HydroRush" for example that help boost biology and also nutrient uptake. Although if your not careful all the additives you get can easily add up to be more or the same cost as a bottle of facilitator.

I guess you could say there is more than one way to skin a cat. I try and find the least expensive ways to get that cat skinned.

One thing Aptus has right and that is the importance of silica and the role it plays in plant health and growth. Many growers could easily increase plant health and growth by using a silica additive like Protek or one of the many brands of it on the market. Increasing biology in the media also has MANY benefits that can NOT be duplicated by any other method or additive.

By improving or adding these two factors (biology & Silica) ALONE one could easily see a 20 to 40% gain in yield. And if a little time and effort was put forth you can get that gain for a LOT less money than a bottle of Facilitator, that is for sure!

Bangarang · Mar 7, 2014

Sorry to bring up an old thread but i am on a mission to find the Facilitator equivalence from a major ag supplier. OSAB3
http://hortcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/osab3.pdf

Has anyone ever used OSAB3?

Tony69 · Mar 14, 2014

I believe Yara makes a stabilized silicic acid.

Chrondondalae · Mar 15, 2014

Has anyone used Fasilitor with Heavy 16 Fire? I just ran out of Peakboost and have some H16 Fire but I'm a little hesitant cause I don't want to antagonize anything.

deacon1503 · Mar 15, 2014

Chrondondalae said:
Has anyone used Fasilitor with Heavy 16 Fire? I just ran out of Peakboost and have some H16 Fire but I'm a little hesitant cause I don't want to antagonize anything.

I run the full heavy line with fasilitor and all good. I also foliar a mix of fire and fasilitor from flip to week 3.

Chrondondalae · Mar 15, 2014

I blew it then. Should have used Fire as usual the last week of veg and 1st week of flower. It's on. Thanks for the feedback.

Donkdbz · Mar 16, 2014

Bangarang said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread but i am on a mission to find the Facilitator equivalence from a major ag supplier. OSAB3
http://hortcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/osab3.pdf

Has anyone ever used OSAB3?

Probable not gonna find in USA I am pretty sure Biosil have patent is US on choline stabalized silica

http://www.biosilusa.com/en/page/173/faq

Biosil works made my goatee getting annoying thick

Coir · Mar 16, 2014

Donkdbz said:
Probable not gonna find in USA I am pretty sure Biosil have patent is US on choline stabalized silica

http://www.biosilusa.com/en/page/173/faq

Biosil works made my goatee getting annoying thick

And it costs the same as fasilitor......

Donkdbz · Mar 16, 2014

theres
Yara Vita Actisil for 210 a litter

its ch-osa

Coir · Mar 17, 2014

Donkdbz said:
theres
Yara Vita Actisil for 210 a litter

its ch-osa

Can't find it in the US though. Do you have a source for it?

Tony69 · Mar 17, 2014

customhydronutrients.com has Yara Vita Actisil, $210 per litre.

Coir · Mar 17, 2014

Tony69 said:
customhydronutrients.com has Yara Vita Actisil, $210 per litre.

Unfortunately, it's never in stock. They show how many "units" they have and it's always 0.

Quantrill · Mar 17, 2014

Yara told me they have no plans marketing Actisil in North America.

I tried getting some sent to me from a European supplier, but customs wouldn't clear it.

I should try again, eh.

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