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So germinating a seed on a paper towel takes these microbes away? Does soaking them in water the whole time wash them away? Would germinating directly in the soil be the only way the microbes stay?

I have 100% germination rate with soaking for 12-16 hours then paper towel, will I see a difference in how my plants grow and/or harvest if I change germination method?
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When the seed opens in the paper towel they get lost unless you plant the paper towel as well. In water it's much less because the majority are on the inside of the seed. Direct sowing if the seeds are legit is the best way, followed by soaking in water first, and then the paper towel method. In the end your just hurting the plants ability to begin life optimally. If you just dump salts on then I wouldn't worry about it a ton but if it's in any way an organic amendments grower I highly reccomended no paper towel
 
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In my opinion no.
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Well you are wrong and you have shown no willingness nor desire to learn so stop interjecting your opinion
 
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So germinating a seed on a paper towel takes these microbes away? Does soaking them in water the whole time wash them away? Would germinating directly in the soil be the only way the microbes stay?

I have 100% germination rate with soaking for 12-16 hours then paper towel, will I see a difference in how my plants grow and/or harvest if I change germination method?
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How plants harness microbes to get nutrients

Scientists have discovered how plants harness microbes in soil to get nutrients, a process that could be exploited to boost crop growth, fight weeds and slash the use of polluting fertilizers and herbicides.
www.sciencedaily.com

This is an article about the farming of microbes, we discovered it roughly 3 years ago
 
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When the seed opens in the paper towel they get lost unless you plant the paper towel as well. In water it's much less because the majority are on the inside of the seed. Direct sowing if the seeds are legit is the best way, followed by soaking in water first, and then the paper towel method. In the end your just hurting the plants ability to begin life optimally. If you just dump salts on then I wouldn't worry about it a ton but if it's in any way an organic amendments grower I highly reccomended no paper towel
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I'll probably just stick to my soak and paper towels because my plants sprout quick and move to veg quick. I use synthetic nutes or liquid nutes from natural and organic sources about 6 weeks after sprouting.
Maybe I'll germinate 1 plant differently sometime and do a side by side and see if it gets through the seedling stage quicker.
First time I've heard of this and is very interesting, thanks for sharing!
 
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paper towel is bro science and needs to go away and be forgotten about,.. these techs were started with illegal marijuana growing,.. like 18/6-12/12,.. like flushing,. like darkness period,.. etc etc
 
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#226
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paper towel is bro science and needs to go away and be forgotten about,.. these techs were started with illegal marijuana growing,.. like 18/6-12/12,.. like flushing,. like darkness period,.. etc etc
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i personnally like cotton pad/paper towel it allow me to do a first sorting of how vigorous is the seeds roots growth after 2-4 days, it's not rare there's a few that don't open up and some that open up and that the root won't really grow afterward per large batch of seeds, it's more comfy regarding how i manage my growing space if i remove weak seeds before transplant in final pots, i don't like transplanting ,always have to be very carefull not breaking the soil, it always annoy me when i have to replace a missing spot in the tent with a backup i launch in small cups

i usually have 85% 90% success rate i'd say with germination
 
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i personnally like cotton pad/paper towel it allow me to do a first sorting of how vigorous is the seeds roots growth after 2-4 days, it's not rare there's a few that don't open up and some that open up and that the root won't really grow afterward per large batch of seeds, it's more comfy regarding how i manage my growing space if i remove weak seeds before transplant in final pots, i don't like transplanting ,always have to be very carefull not breaking the soil, it always annoy me when i have to replace a missing spot in the tent with a backup i launch in small cups

i usually have 80% 90% success rate i'd say with germination
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In the end it doesn't make or break your grow and it's all preference. I hate transplanting as well, I go from solo cup to my 7 gallon final pots. I use the solo cup stage as a vetting process as opposed to your paper towel, but I don't run a lot of plants so it makes sense for me. Each method has its merits.
How have you been HerbEdu? Hope the grows have been going well
 
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paper towel is bro science and needs to go away and be forgotten about,.. these techs were started with illegal marijuana growing,.. like 18/6-12/12,.. like flushing,. like darkness period,.. etc etc
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Totally agree and honestly plamt science is just starting to take off and as far as cannabis it's in it's infancy. Gotta put the bro science behind us as time moves forward and adapt.
 
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In the end it doesn't make or break your grow and it's all preference. I hate transplanting as well, I go feom solo cup to my 7 gallon final pots. I use the solo cup stage as a vetting process as opposed to your paper towel, but I don't run a lot of plants so it makes sense for me. Each method has its merits.
How have you been HerbEdu? Hope the grows have been going well
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yeah if you want to check the grows, i usually post weekly update on saturday in thoose thread:

Photo periods in bloom! Share your pics and advice.

Nirvana - Candy Kush done with the flowering stretch 78cm-99cm. 1 week germination 16/8, 4 weeks veg 16/8, 5 weeks 12/12 2x3x6 (90x60x180) tent, SOG 8 plants 1,6 gal (6L) pots, spiderfarmer SF2000 200W approx 35 cm from plant tops @100%, biobizz all-mix soil and nutrients.
www.thcfarmer.com

and i post a sum up at the end of each veg here:

Your plants in VEG! Veg plant photo, cloning discussion , share your pre flower prep!

With all the share your flower, best flower, photoperiod in flower topics, Let’s start a discussion on, how we get there! So many new members stumble across these topics mid grow and try to change tactics, let’s share how we prep our seedlings, lights you prefer, clones etc for flower to get...
www.thcfarmer.com
 
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In the end it doesn't make or break your grow and it's all preference. I hate transplanting as well, I go from solo cup to my 7 gallon final pots. I use the solo cup stage as a vetting process as opposed to your paper towel, but I don't run a lot of plants so it makes sense for me. Each method has its merits.
How have you been HerbEdu? Hope the grows have been going well
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Why don't you use 10 gal. ?
Space ?
 
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When the seed opens in the paper towel they get lost unless you plant the paper towel as well. In water it's much less because the majority are on the inside of the seed. Direct sowing if the seeds are legit is the best way, followed by soaking in water first, and then the paper towel method. In the end your just hurting the plants ability to begin life optimally. If you just dump salts on then I wouldn't worry about it a ton but if it's in any way an organic amendments grower I highly reccomended no paper towel
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As responsible cultivators we should do a part to limit the amount of misinformation that enters the internet.

I suggest picking up a copy of a marijuana grow bible to study and learn and keep for future referencing. You will be well on your way to becoming a master grower by following this sound advice. I strongly suggest not skipping this step as it covers everything you need to know for cultivating primo marijuana.
 
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I've never had any problems with Barney's. They have sales where if you buy two ten packs, you get one free. It's only a few times a year from what I've seen.
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I'm talking about thc content. Or sativa or indica. Or feminized. I'm not knocking them. I just like to know exactly what I'm growing.
 
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Well this original post sure went sideways. The fella just vanished.
 
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Well this original post sure went sideways. The fella just vanished.
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I don't think he believed the 10 or so people that said it was overwatering.
 
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As responsible cultivators we should do a part to limit the amount of misinformation that enters the internet.

I suggest picking up a copy of a marijuana grow bible to study and learn and keep for future referencing. You will be well on your way to becoming a master grower by following this sound advice. I strongly suggest not skipping this step as it covers everything you need to know for cultivating primo marijuana.
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Ya know I did a lot of studying since this topic came up. The majority of platforms actually recommend the paper towel method. Just saying. As far as I'm concerned I'm not changing. 100 % germ, and no health issues. Works for me.
 
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I don't think he believed the 10 or so people that said it was overwatering.
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Not for nothing…more than a few people went at him kinda hard.

Supposed they deserved it though. Cant come in to a group of people, ask what is wrong with what you’re doing, and then argue when you don’t like the answer.

Suppose….if ya don’t want an answer, then don’t ask the question
 
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Not for nothing…more than a few people went at him kinda hard.

Supposed they deserved it though. Cant come in to a group of people, ask what is wrong with what you’re doing, and then argue when you don’t like the answer.

Suppose….if ya don’t want an answer, then don’t ask the question
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Funny
 
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Best hijack/lost thread ive seen on the farm yet! I read to the end to see if op came back. I put off getting some tacos to find out. Lol. Wow. Dehumidified water? Hahahahahaha. Awwww man.

Good show!
 
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Best hijack/lost thread ive seen on the farm yet! I read to the end to see if op came back. I put off getting some tacos to find out. Lol. Wow. Dehumidified water? Hahahahahaha. Awwww man.

Good show!
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Some humans !
 
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Some humans !
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Ya I only use Ice Mountain spring water. I never thought of using dehumidifier water though ! That must be cleaner than spring water !
 
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