Beginner Outdoor In Ground Grow

[Smokey_LaFleur]

Blackbird will fully function with AC controller 69 with the purchased adaptor. Some kind of j45 connector, I forget which in particular. It's a personal preference probably, but I think the hlg has more red spectrum than the evo. Seems the plants stretched more under the hlg.

 

[Oldchucky]

lol I can’t tell if your serious about putting one out or not? I’d really be all over the place lugging around nutes and what not.
Also forgot to mention another big factor was we are looking into adding on to our house and I was worried about construction workers wandering around and stumbling upon my outdoor grow.
Def don’t need that. I’d still like to give it a try one day though.
In the meantime I’m returning my garden bug netting, outdoor tent poles, camo netting. Should give me about $100 back.

You made the right call! And it’s not the heat that does you in, it’s the humidity! I grow in 100+ degrees all summer, but the humidity rarely gets above 50% at night and is down in the teens and single digits during the day! That’s what makes it possible! I’m glad you were able to connect with Spalding about it! I was going to tell you, why don’t you ask him what he thinks about it! He lives in Texas! Looking forward to your indoor grow!

 

[SouthTX420]

You made the right call! And it’s not the heat that does you in, it’s the humidity! I grow in 100+ degrees all summer, but the humidity rarely gets above 50% at night and is down in the teens and single digits during the day! That’s what makes it possible! I’m glad you were able to connect with Spalding about it! I was going to tell you, why don’t you ask him what he thinks about it! He lives in Texas! Looking forward to your indoor grow!

Hey how’d you know I connected with him? lol yeah he gave me a wealth of info, great dude! He said if the temps and humidity doesn’t get them then the pests would. That there was a reason he grows indoors.

 

[Oldchucky]

I ran into him last night and mentioned you and suggested he take a look! He said you had already connected! I don’t like to rain on people‘s parades but just try to help! But I’m glad he rained on your parade! Ha ha! You can’t find a better person to get you to the promise land indoors than Spalding! He works his ass off to help people out! Other than being a little obsessed with Sid Haig, he is a great guy!

 

[SouthTX420]

Alright alright…got the girls moved from their solo cups to hopefully their forever homes; the 5 gallon fabric pots.

Mixed 7 gallons Happy Frog with 6 gallons (whole 1.5 cu ft bag) Ocean Forest cause 13 is a great number lol. Then added 4 gallons perlite. Was planning to do 3 but figured may as well use the last gallon.

Planted them down to the cotyledons, then set up on temporary table with ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro 18” above I think at 50% giving ~475ppfd at the tops of plants.
Then mixed up a gallon of softened well water with .5-1ml ArmorSi silica, then Ph’d to 6.2, let it sit 5 minutes and mix with my baby submersible pump, checked Ph and had to lower again to 6.2 and did that about 4 more times until finally it stayed close enough to 6.2. Then added 1/2tsp of Recharge and fed that to the plants maybe about ~28oz to each pot. Gave the rest to a little fern the wife wanted repotted and a peace lily.

I’d say they were ready for a new home to stretch their roots in.

4x4 Gorilla Pro tent, SpiderFarmer SE5000, AC Infinity 6” inline fan Pro kit, and ACI self watering pots are ordered.
Anything else that I’m missing??

Figured I’ll let them acclimate to their new homes then start looking into topping when they are ready.

 

[SouthTX420]

Would anyone be able to give some insight?
Last night I removed the very bottom nodes with the single bladed leaf.
I’m looking at topping the plants to increase yield, I’ve never done this before and don’t wanna fuck it up.
Would this be the places to do it on the 3 plants?
Both Durban Poisons above the 3rd nodes and the Godfather OG above the 4th node?

DP1 7” tall 6 nodes ( I’m including the base of the once I cut yesterday as a node)

DP2 7.5” tall 6 nodes

GOG 8” tall going on 8 nodes

 

[Galgrows]

I'd go above that, from the lowest node count up to the 5th that's where i'd top it

 

[SouthTX420]

I'd go above that, from the lowest node count up to the 4th that's where i'd top it

Cool, I was worried about taking off too much. Thank you!

 

[PlumberSoCal2]

Would anyone be able to give some insight?
Last night I removed the very bottom nodes with the single bladed leaf.
I’m looking at topping the plants to increase yield, I’ve never done this before and don’t wanna fuck it up.
Would this be the places to do it on the 3 plants?
Both Durban Poisons above the 3rd nodes and the Godfather OG above the 4th node?

DP1 7” tall 6 nodes ( I’m including the base of the once I cut yesterday as a node)
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DP2 7.5” tall 6 nodes
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GOG 8” tall going on 8 nodes
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Read this before topping:

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www.cocoforcannabis.com

I followed this guide several years ago and swear by it

 

[SouthTX420]

Read this before topping:

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www.cocoforcannabis.com

I followed this guide several years ago and swear by it

Well I probably topped them right as you were posting this but looks like that’s part of the process that the article lays out anyway.
I’ll for sure be bookmarking that.
Thank you for the link.

 

[SouthTX420]

So I topped them today around noon, on the DP’s I topped right above the 5th node and on GOG right above the 6th node.
I’m assuming when counting I include what used to be a node that I removed.

Tent conditions are 80°-85°F 50-60%RH
Hoping the 6” inline fan will help cool it down some, I’m thinking I’ll prly have to get a small window unit AC come summer.
Got an oscillating tower fan blowing on them running through a Variac so I could slow it down some.

This ones top leaves are reaching more then they used to.

Also noticed some littles batards crawling in the soil and on the pots…haven’t noticed them on the plants yet but I sprayed Captain Jacks Deadbug Brew Thursday night on the pot, soil, and plant. Then again on Friday night on just the soil and the pot. Pretty sure they were in the soil when I transplanted. I thought they were spider mites but I’m not sure.
Can anyone tell me what they are so I can get them gone!
Thanks everyone, really appreciate everyone’s support.

 

[Oldchucky]

Looks like some kind of soil mite! And sometimes those fast moving ones are predatory and our beneficial! That’s why it always helps to make sure what you are dealing with before you start spraying! Just two cents! And do some research on soil mites! I don’t think they are really harmful! I think they just eat dead and decaying material! But they might get annoying!

 

[SouthTX420]

Looks like some kind of soil mite! And sometimes those fast moving ones are predatory and our beneficial! That’s why it always helps to make sure what you are dealing with before you start spraying! Just two cents! And do some research on soil mites! I don’t think they are really harmful! I think they just eat dead and decaying material! But they might get annoying!

I’m so glad I joined this site.
I believe you are correct! Soil mites!

“Stratiolaelaps scimitus (Hypoaspis miles) is primarily used for treating and controlling fungus gnat infestations, but can also be released as a control measure for root aphids, spider mites and thrips”

Just so happens my jewelers loupe came in this evening and they look just like the internet photos…lol typical newbie, I saw them and panicked and ran to get the spray.
They’re some hardy little shits though cause they didn’t seem very phased by the spinosid spray. Also prly helped that I topped off my soil with the OF/HF blend after spraying. Apparently a lot of people find them in Ocean Forest soil.
Thank you again Oldchucky!

 

[tall boys]

I'm in Southern Michigan been growing outside for 5 years I'll stick around and show you how it's done

 

[Bobcat.Branch]

I’m so glad I joined this site.
I believe you are correct! Soil mites!

“Stratiolaelaps scimitus (Hypoaspis miles) is primarily used for treating and controlling fungus gnat infestations, but can also be released as a control measure for root aphids, spider mites and thrips”

Just so happens my jewelers loupe came in this evening and they look just like the internet photos…lol typical newbie, I saw them and panicked and ran to get the spray.
They’re some hardy little shits though cause they didn’t seem very phased by the spinosid spray. Also prly helped that I topped off my soil with the OF/HF blend after spraying. Apparently a lot of people find them in Ocean Forest soil.
Thank you again Oldchucky! View attachment 2414363

Dammit, I'd never be lucky enough to get beneficial mites pop up unannounced!

 

[SouthTX420]

I'm in Southern Michigan been growing outside for 5 years I'll stick around and show you how it's done
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lol but I need you to show me how it’s done in 90% humidity and higher and temperatures of 98°-105°F
Those are some healthy looking girls.

 

[SouthTX420]

5 weeks old.
1 week post Topping.
Started playing around with LST, not sure if I’m trying to keep everything horizontal OR bring the lower growth up even to the top?
Not sure if I should Top again or not, will probably just let them go.

 

[Oldchucky]

5 weeks old.
1 week post Topping.
Started playing around with LST, not sure if I’m trying to keep everything horizontal OR bring the lower growth up even to the top?
Not sure if I should Top again or not, will probably just let them go.
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Glad old Spalding got you pointed in the right direction! Looking good!

 

[JIMKSI64]

For the higher stems can you tie them down with greenwire and then use the fixtures to steer them the direction you want to go. When using those fixtures you wind up with a step stem that goes up 3 inches and horizontal, up 3 inches and horizontal. By steering it out from the plant but on a horizontal plane with wire the natural tendecy of the stems will be to launch node after node due to the hormone boost fron topping. lemme get a pic on my other phone and edit it in

Run green wire from hole in pot and pull down. Some runs have 3 wires and are 16 inches long with multiple bud runs on the stems. This plant got a fimm and the stretch was nuts. The top cola on that stem made an L with cola on top and a pistle farm along the bottom.

LoL just noticed the Ork warbike security detail in the pot..

 

[Greenadian]

Bahahahahahaaa .......you playing dinky cars in the grow room again