Best nutrients 2022. Cant be beat. Advanced nutrient knowledge required.

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SOG is a good method, and 12-15lbs every 8-10 weeks is a respectable harvest. But I can do the same or better paying 10 cent a gallon.
Every 8 weeks on 2520w. Maybe 1 day the room is down for cleaning and such. Them fully installed again.
 
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yeah he can half the plant count, run pressure compensated stakes through an inline pump w cheap salts, co2, stop topping his plants, pule irrigate to control osmotic pressure, and produce higher quality. If I fed a 10k warehouse with AN my brokers would laugh at me
Ok I have been wondering that about the topping. I think that's what could be holing me back a bit. What would you replace it with. Let. Bending. That's not exactly feasible for my large projects. But hey lmk. You mentioned a few things there I haven't ever herd of. So boom. That's why I'm here. Enlighten me my friend.
 
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be real dude you are being displaced out of the industry your Mercedes isn't a maybaych and everything you own is leased. Just tried to put you on some cheap game by actually making your flower better without spending 2$ a gallon vs my .013c. I don't need to post pics you can go on instagram look at josh neulingers rooms pushing 4.5 a light on a 5x5 table with 1000w de checkerboard.
Nothing is lease lol but if that makes yourself better. Go ahead. Thansk for the reference though. Some other guy on doing some other thing kick ass, cool. How about you?
 
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Magnesium Sulphate
Mono Potassium Phosphate
Calcium Nitrate
Potassium Nitrate
Potassium Sulfate
Chelated Micros
is all you need
What about microbial and carbs to feed them and natural plant hormon boosters cause really that's what I have been looking for in products lately. That list is that liquid or dry? For soil or hydro?
 
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How much does that add up to per gallon of water? Probably more than I could ever afford. I spend about 15 cents/gal and get great buds.
I made you a list a few pages over. I'd be interested to know too.
 
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Solid post dude. Ignore the haters. Anyone can grow some fire looking bud with salts. Only us OG's know that getting the best terps/flavors out of the bud is the hard part. I started out with organic soil but switched to salts. Salts have their benefits but I couldn't help but notice the loss of terps with them. Most people dont even notice because they dont realize what their bud is truly capable of.

When I was growing with organics, you could walk in my house and catch a whiff of bud with 2 Cann carbon scrubbers running. When I switched to salts, I didnt even have to run my carbon scrubbers to achieve the same level of smell. If I ran both scrubbers then you wouldn't know a thing. So I went back to the drawing board and started running Signal, Heavy 16 Prime and Heavy 16 fire along with Mr.Fulvic and what do you know, I got my Terps back!

If this secret sauce can really replace Heavy 16 Fire then its a game changer. That shits expensive! About to place an order so we'll see. Thanks
Thank you for recognizing that part about the plant science and at least giving it its due for a brief moment. It might have been the wording of the headliner that got them worked up to start. But if they just were nit guilty of exactly what they are causing me of they might have learned something as well as taught me something. But instead. Phasing contest mixed with explaining and defending just to get back to the good part of this app. The plant science and not the bro science. Qell the bro science has its part too but just as a starter. Plus I'd bet bone are getting as many harvest as I do a year with a consistent product from clone. But idk cause no one males any claims they just half criticize and half insult defensively and 100% assume incorrectly to my nature of intent. But we are getting there. Let's see if they have the plant science on the next round of reply. I really hope they do cause I really would like to learn some new shit. Haha.
 
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What medium are you using and form seed or.clone? What nutrients. What lights and what type of set up? How many plants per table. How.many weeks in veg. Hoe many harvest a year. Lmk thanks. I ha e herd this before and belive you. Lmk.
I'm not new to growing if thats what your looking for, I grew in pretty much every medium at one time or another, hydro was my specialty mostly in commercial setup's, now just for myself, grew extensively from seed and clone, also headed up breeding projects at one time, I have always only mixed my own nutrients, lights everything but LED, everything else time wise is subjected to my genetics and what i'm doing. If you want know about me read my posts
 
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What about microbial and carbs to feed them and natural plant hormon boosters cause really that's what I have been looking for in products lately. That list is that liquid or dry? For soil or hydro?
I'm confused, the title of the thread is best nutrients 2022 Can't be beat, Advanced nutrient knowledge required, then you tell us what your using. what else have you used to know it can't be beat? and if you have to ask anything about the list of salt and what it is, I'd start out with a book for beginners, not trying to be mean. but just saying. cannabis plants no matter in organic or salts or medium they all absorb the same 16 elements and bio stimulants.

 
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I'm not new to growing if thats what your looking for, I grew in pretty much every medium at one time or another, hydro was my specialty mostly in commercial setup's, now just for myself, grew extensively from seed and clone, also headed up breeding projects at one time, I have always only mixed my own nutrients, lights everything but LED, everything else time wise is subjected to my genetics and what i'm doing. If you want know about me read my posts
Yeah. The list I provided is a list of different brands products that are just well put together. I like the nutrient compositions and levels of such contained, to the specific sources and quality of those ingredients. I also utilize the other ingredients like plant extracts that are used to bio stimulate different phytochemistry and secondary metabolites. Also these products contain different not so secret but unlisted ingredients such as plant hormones that act to regulate or inhibit different bio chemical signaling that can create synergistic effects when applied at specific times during the different growth stages. That's the type of knowledge a student in thier 3rd year of acquiring a botany degree should understand. Well the basics of that advanced knowledge.

No the list you gave you.claimed "is all you need" so that's why I was trying to.be Socratic to get you to see that just listing the 16 elements isn't all they need. Especially when dealing with different genetics and ecology and growing techs and goals and on and on. But I get your point. And yah i belive you are not talking down so I hope you.also know now that I am also not tlaking down to ya. Guess we have to say those things forst before we engage in conversations haha. Cause much is lost in text with no tone of body language.
 
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I'm confused, the title of the thread is best nutrients 2022 Can't be beat, Advanced nutrient knowledge required, then you tell us what your using. what else have you used to know it can't be beat? and if you have to ask anything about the list of salt and what it is, I'd start out with a book for beginners, not trying to be mean. but just saying. cannabis plants no matter in organic or salts or medium they all absorb the same 16 elements and bio stimulants.

Oh yeah and I have used other products and I list some.of them and the product that I use now to replace it. I realize there is some.over kill there I could remove the karma or the Flora + but I'd rather just use both and half dose it haha. That's just my thing. But Vitazyme and mb ferts secret hormone sauce and Signal........ there are no products like them and likely can not be reproduced at home. Where can we get auxins and Gibberellins and salicylic acid or jasmonic Acid or Triacontanol or ABA or cytokinins. And again toy.point of a synergistic product. They just have the right stuff while also being unique. The TPS roots is 35.00 a literl so that's mostly a cost driven claim and I even have a replacent for Great white now, it's called TPS Billions. Again half the price of GW and all the same ingredients. So again just a cost inspired claim on those 2 products. What do you think?
 
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You know what it is. It's just that..... I'm not shy about stepping on people I would likely step right over in person. Not you. Your analysis is helpful. Thank you. I see what you mean. And ima try to hold back but in person I'm not very nice and I have the training and talent to back up every word I place here when it comes to pissing contests. So I'm just not used to random no faced protected typers getting away with speakimg to me like they have. But ya man. You're right. It blends right in with juvenile arrogance rather than earned confidence and reputation. Thanks for pointing that out the way you did. Ima pull it back a bit as I should anyways. It's just there are a few lil punk kids to say the least that without pictures of me or my reputation or status in the industry and for that matter to most men kinda urks and baits me into having to just tell them in wordcraft that I'd make them tap in 20 second of matt time. It's unnecessary and I guess I'm just gonna have to grow Thicker skin to the nobodies or the hecklers and just ignor it cause the conversations I'd like to have are like the ones i just wrote before I replied to you. So yeah I hear ya and Thanks again but I can promis you this not a single claim I have made is from lack of ability or earned reputation. But I realize now. That means nothing here haha. Who know who is who. You could be a 2nd degree bjj black belt above me with 2 ems in the bank over me but also much more handsome and physically fit. Could have a hotter wife than me. Could even be more connected in the darker parts of the world Tha. Em and have a family history thats much more dark and scary. You could have had a better more kick ass job in the military than I. Maybe even a few more degrees completed. I.mean there is always someone that's better than us at some aspects right? So yeah I need to chill. Make friends. Show my weaknesses ans ignorance humbly and see if I can gain more with Honey than with bitch slaps and flexing. Stupid right. OK pipe carver. You were the guy that made me see it and I thank-you for that. Moving forward I got your back if you need anything. And your insights and opinions are welcome and valued. You can even throw a few funny insults my way for good measure to test it out. I got you bud. So can you please now lmk where my weak points on growing are. Thanks.
No sweat, we all have our moments. A lot of faceless stoner wannabe's here, I'm one of them. I try not to get into battles with a bathroom wall, it gets me nowhere.......More reading less yapping is my method of operation.........unless I'm on a stoned rant of course.
 
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This is comedic gold and literally everything wrong with the MJ industry.

You're the kinda guy that car dealerships love to send to the back and you get your buttcrack flossed with protection packages undercoats 3M protection and headlight fluid when all you really needed to do was sign on the dotted line.
 
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Oh yeah and I have used other products and I list some.of them and the product that I use now to replace it. I realize there is some.over kill there I could remove the karma or the Flora + but I'd rather just use both and half dose it haha. That's just my thing. But Vitazyme and mb ferts secret hormone sauce and Signal........ there are no products like them and likely can not be reproduced at home. Where can we get auxins and Gibberellins and salicylic acid or jasmonic Acid or Triacontanol or ABA or cytokinins. And again toy.point of a synergistic product. They just have the right stuff while also being unique. The TPS roots is 35.00 a literl so that's mostly a cost driven claim and I even have a replacent for Great white now, it's called TPS Billions. Again half the price of GW and all the same ingredients. So again just a cost inspired claim on those 2 products. What do you think?
lol you really didn't just ask where we can get those hormones , and do you really think its a secret hormone sauce your buying lol, your fucking joking right lol , You do realize all that stuff and more is found in high quality kelps and seaweeds right, and in more the one specific hormone, like cytokinins, c-zog c-z c-zr ip and ipr Gibberellins ga53 ga8 ga19 auxins iaa iaa-ala plus 4 or 5 different ABA's etc etc . plus high quality kelps seaweeds have also have 60-70 minerals, vitamins, enzymes, amino acids, micronutrient and even Mannitol which is another chelater. and you think multiple bottles of over priced watered down crap is better then that, do you even no what specific hormones is in each bottle or does that just fall under the secret hormone sauce recipe lol and all that from 3rd year botany student. please do not respond, I won't I'm done with this foolishness lol and will not respond.
 
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Oh yeah and I have used other products and I list some.of them and the product that I use now to replace it. I realize there is some.over kill there I could remove the karma or the Flora + but I'd rather just use both and half dose it haha. That's just my thing. But Vitazyme and mb ferts secret hormone sauce and Signal........ there are no products like them and likely can not be reproduced at home. Where can we get auxins and Gibberellins and salicylic acid or jasmonic Acid or Triacontanol or ABA or cytokinins. And again toy.point of a synergistic product. They just have the right stuff while also being unique. The TPS roots is 35.00 a literl so that's mostly a cost driven claim and I even have a replacent for Great white now, it's called TPS Billions. Again half the price of GW and all the same ingredients. So again just a cost inspired claim on those 2 products. What do you think?
How much per gallon does it cost to use? Why is it no one will say?
 
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Funny cause
lol you really didn't just ask where we can get those hormones , and do you really think its a secret hormone sauce your buying lol, your fucking joking right lol , You do realize all that stuff and more is found in high quality kelps and seaweeds right, and in more the one specific hormone, like cytokinins, c-zog c-z c-zr ip and ipr Gibberellins ga53 ga8 ga19 auxins iaa iaa-ala plus 4 or 5 different ABA's etc etc . plus high quality kelps seaweeds have also have 60-70 minerals, vitamins, enzymes, amino acids, micronutrient and even Mannitol which is another chelater. and you think multiple bottles of over priced watered down crap is better then that, do you even no what specific hormones is in each bottle or does that just fall under the secret hormone sauce recipe lol and all that from 3rd year botany student. please do not respond, I won't I'm done with this foolishness lol and will not respond.
That's exactly what are in some of those products listed. Are you really that hard up and a hater of using well made products. Are you really that cheap. Wtf. Get out here. By. Your comments are worthless to the conversation. Go brew your own shampoo and cut your own hair cheap mf.
 
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This is comedic gold and literally everything wrong with the MJ industry.

You're the kinda guy that car dealerships love to send to the back and you get your buttcrack flossed with protection packages undercoats 3M protection and headlight fluid when all you really needed to do was sign on the dotted line.
And your the kind of guy that eats only off the 99c menu. Bet you hate yourself when you.look in the mirror so you go online and talk smack cause it's the only safe place you can. By. You have to live with yourself that's punishment enough for me. Ignored.
 
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Funny cause

That's exactly what are in some of those products listed. Are you really that hard up and a hater of using well made products. Are you really that cheap. Wtf. Get out here. By. Your comments are worthless to the conversation. Go brew your own shampoo and cut your own hair cheap mf.
It's shit like this that has me using the ignore option.....yap yap yap little poodle you bin ghosted.
 

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