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Bleached spots on new growth, flowering auto 8 weeks, organic

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Bleached spots on new growth, flowering auto 8 weeks, organic

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EXAMPLE: If I toss you in a pit and start feeding you, but I keep piling food in faster than you can eat it. Sooner or later you're going to stop eating because you just can't eat another bite. But the excess never gets cleaned up. It sits there, decaying until the next feeding that adds more to the pile. See where this is headed?
 
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Aqua Man said:
Flush 3x volume then feed right after 1x volume.

So 3 gal pot flush each with 3 gal of temp and ph adjusted water with recharge.

Then feed with 1 gal of temp and PH adjusted nutrient solution of bud bread at 50% of the recommended dose.

I know it's alot of work and waste and they may look a little over watered if in peat or soil for a day or so but they should bounce right back.

Nutrient ratios are the single most important thing with nutrients.... concentration is actually number 2 imo.

What type of light, temp and humidity are you running?
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3x volume would be 9 gallons? Or are you saying 3 gallons per plant? When you say feed 1x, that means prepare 3 gallons worth of food and flush with that after the water flush? Sorry you're being so helpful I want to make sure I really understand exactly what you're suggesting I do I'm going to follow it to a T.
 
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ComfortablyNumb said:
EXAMPLE: If I toss you in a pit and start feeding you, but I keep piling food in faster than you can eat it. Sooner or later you're going to stop eating because you just can't eat another bite. But the excess never gets cleaned up. It sits there, decaying until the next feeding that adds more to the pile. See where this is headed?
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Got it. TY. First grow ... learning so much as I go.
 
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DudeMcDoodleStein said:
3x volume would be 9 gallons? Or are you saying 3 gallons per plant? When you say feed 1x, that means prepare 3 gallons worth of food and flush with that after the water flush? Sorry you're being so helpful I want to make sure I really understand exactly what you're suggesting I do I'm going to follow it to a T.
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So in a 3 gal would be a 9 gal flush the a 3 gal feed.
 
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Follow up report, cant thank you wonderful people enough for your speedy advice and quick responses. I did the 3x flush with recharge last night and the 1x feed with bud bread. Did a little more defoliating. The canopy itself is so dense. Underneath is fairly clear. Any follow up suggestions?
 

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DudeMcDoodleStein said:
Follow up report, cant thank you wonderful people enough for your speedy advice and quick responses. I did the 3x flush with recharge last night and the 1x feed with bud bread. Did a little more defoliating. The canopy itself is so dense. Underneath is fairly clear. Any follow up suggestions?
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Just give em some time now 👍
 
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ComfortablyNumb said:
We don't foiliar feed because we don't open the tent after lights out, and we don't spray them when the light is on.
It takes 2 minutes to burn your leaves under high power grow lights. Why risk it? We just feed the roots and let them do the uptake.
It's more of a personal preference I guess.
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+1 after seedling stage I never spray anything unless last resort
 
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Moshmen said:
Fwiw I run my autos under a kingbrites at between 35-45 lux some do like more all the way up to 55 k but my average starting point is 40 k
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Thank you. I dropped the light down to the mid thirties. I think the light was a tad high in veg causing overly tight nodes and very little stretch.
 
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So I'm following up and I would love some advice, Im a little distressed as I'm getting the same PH spike I had before they went south again. I followed instructions to a T. Today I watered them for the first time since the flush. The soil was pretty hydrophobic, I got about 1/2 cup to a full cup of runoff on the two that were flushed. Am I underwatering? I ph tested the runoff and was a bit freaked out as the smaller one was 7.53 and the larger 7.9! I was extremely careful to flush with ph corrected fluids between 6.25 and 6.5. I fear theyre set up for another crash. Is it possible to get a ph spike from letting the soil get too dry? I cant understand why whats gling in is so well dialed in and whats coming out is so far out of range. Would love your reflection on this.

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DudeMcDoodleStein said:
So I'm following up and I would love some advice, Im a little distressed as I'm getting the same PH spike I had before they went south again. I followed instructions to a T. Today I watered them for the first time since the flush. The soil was pretty hydrophobic, I got about 1/2 cup to a full cup of runoff on the two that were flushed. Am I underwatering? I ph tested the runoff and was a bit freaked out as the smaller one was 7.53 and the larger 7.9! I was extremely careful to flush with ph corrected fluids between 6.25 and 6.5. I fear theyre set up for another crash. Is it possible to get a ph spike from letting the soil get too dry? I cant understand why whats gling in is so well dialed in and whats coming out is so far out of range. Would love your reflection on this.

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No worries bro... relax and take a breath. What is the soil makeup and what was the ppm in and out?
 
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Aqua Man said:
No worries bro... relax and take a breath. What is the soil makeup and what was the ppm in and out?
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Hi, thanks for the quick reply. I just emailed Apera to make sure the PH60f sensor I'm using can be used for submersible fluids just in case.

I dont have a ppm meter. Soil is a mix of FF Happy Frog top half and bottom half is Coast of Maine Stonington, mixes according to instructions for Natures Living Soil. I put a few tablespoons of their Flower Girl Power amendment when they flipped to flower. Feeding just Bud Bread at 50% and recharge you had kindly suggested.
 
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DudeMcDoodleStein said:
Hi, thanks for the quick reply. I just emailed Apera to make sure the PH60f sensor I'm using can be used for submersible fluids just in case.

I dont have a ppm meter. Soil is a mix of FF Happy Frog top half and bottom half is Coast of Maine Stonington, mixes according to instructions for Natures Living Soil. I put a few tablespoons of their Flower Girl Power amendment when they flipped to flower. Feeding just Bud Bread at 50% and recharge you had kindly suggested.
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Ok your ph of runoff is a direct result of your soil mix and you have very little control over that. Now on top of that it's fairly organic which makes it even harder.

With organics you don't need a ppm meter so no worries there.

You will need to add something like aluminum sulfate to help lower the soil PH.

Did you add dolomite lime or something similar?

I would suggest never mixing or layering soils without understanding how it will affect the makeup. Always do a slurry test before using to confirm the ph is in an adequate range.

You will also benefit from adding beneficial microbes like raw bloom microbes in order to help process organic nutrients.

Imo add aluminum sulfate and ditch the organics for salts at this point. I think your soil mix may have been doomed from the start after hearing the mix and resulting ph it has.
 
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Aqua Man said:
Ok your ph of runoff is a direct result of your soil mix and you have very little control over that. Now on top of that it's fairly organic which makes it even harder.

With organics you don't need a ppm meter so no worries there.

You will need to add something like aluminum sulfate to help lower the soil PH.

Did you add dolomite lime or something similar?

I would suggest never mixing or layering soils without understanding how it will affect the makeup. Always do a slurry test before using to confirm the ph is in an adequate range.

You will also benefit from adding beneficial microbes like raw bloom microbes in order to help process organic nutrients.

Imo add aluminum sulfate and ditch the organics for salts at this point. I think your soil mix may have been doomed from the start after hearing the mix and resulting ph it has.
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I did not add Dolomite lime, but I do have that here. I'm not familiar with aluminum sulfate. Do you have specific products or amendments that you recommend?
 
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