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My thinking was: anything that's already powdered could theoretically be further pulverized and added to liquids for more immediate benefit. Would that not work for the powdered bone meal? I mean, if I could ultimately make them both useful in the same way, might as well save a few $$ where possible.The powdered version is great for soil mix amendment. The liquid version can be mixed in with your nutes for an added boost.
Thanks a lot for that info! Just filled out their questionnaire, so I guess I'll get a shipping quote within a week or so. Being a habitual broke-ass, I'm always a sucker for a bargain.If you're considering liquid nutes look into their free samples. All you pay is shipping. Like $27. Full spectrum of nutes. Big bottles too.
This is one of those products I hear great stuff about and wonder if it's that one thing I'm missing to get a new record yield or over the top quality. But if I'm following the regimen of whatever nutrient line, haven't they already compensated for whatever macro/micro's it offers and wont I just end up with an excess buildup or toxicity?
a few draw backs are reality if outdoors
animals can and do dig this stuff up out of the ground
was doing a huge planting job at a homeowners years ago..after we planted everything we took lunch to come back and mulch..while we were gone the boss calls and says wtf
we go back every shrub we just mudded in was tore up...
a big yellow lab was quickly discovered to be the culprit as the mud was a giveaway
just wanted to say a nursery that has been in business for 35 years does not use it anymore as an amendment
they also don't use peat
lots of these question can all be answered at the local nursery....and probly will get you more useful info then the grow shop store...while both have insane markups...the people who have ran nurseries for years are a wealth of wisdom on reality
Just curious, can't you use the powdered form to make your own liquid bone meal if you wanted to?
A+ link! Anyone interested enough to click on this thread should check it out!Of course. Its just a mineral. It is not a growth stimulant or regulator or anything. And if you inoculate with myco it inhibits its abilities to penetrate roots.
(Myco in fertilized containers is a whole other can of worms)
Here is a great page of debunked gardening myths from a phd plant scientist and washington university. 1st in the list is bone meal.
https://puyallup.wsu.edu/lcs/
That doesn't APPEAR to be the case here. I use HH + Megacrop (Cheap nutes) + URB (bennies) and the results are amazing..You can really tell if they miss their weekly dose. URB hit it on the head by saying that you could reduce nutrients by maybe 20+% if you added URB. Works here with no overload that I can see.A+ link! Anyone interested enough to click on this thread should check it out!
Correct me if I'm wrong MIMed, it's happened before. Here is what I took away from it:
If I, growing in coco and using a common nutrient line, were to add bone meal to my routine; the overload of phosphorous (already compensated for in my nutes) would negate the value of the mycorrhizae products I spent $$$ on; Mykos, Great White, etc. and force the plant to spend unnecessary energy on root growth.
As I understood their reasoning for why bone meal popularity persists, is you end up with a fantastic root mass. But if you think about it, roots don't have to be insanely enormous to be healthy roots and an oz. of roots doesn't go for much.
Disclaimer: If you use Nectar of the gods nutrient line they may require it as part of the "plan", I don't know.
You wont catch me arguing against- if it aint broke don't fix it.:)That doesn't APPEAR to be the case here. I use HH + Megacrop (Cheap nutes) + URB (bennies) and the results are amazing..You can really tell if they miss their weekly dose. URB hit it on the head by saying that you could reduce nutrients by maybe 20+% if you added URB. Works here with no overload that I can see.
Downside as always..pricey stuff!
A+ link! Anyone interested enough to click on this thread should check it out!
Correct me if I'm wrong MIMed, it's happened before. Here is what I took away from it:
If I, growing in coco and using a common nutrient line, were to add bone meal to my routine; the overload of phosphorous (already compensated for in my nutes) would negate the value of the mycorrhizae products I spent $$$ on; Mykos, Great White, etc. and force the plant to spend unnecessary energy on root growth.
As I understood their reasoning for why bone meal popularity persists, is you end up with a fantastic root mass. But if you think about it, roots don't have to be insanely enormous to be healthy roots and an oz. of roots doesn't go for much.
Disclaimer: If you use Nectar of the gods nutrient line they may require it as part of the "plan", I don't know.
Yes, that's all good, but Mycos also helps the plant uptake it's nutrients easily; apparently in a more palpable form?Maybe? So many variables. Adding stuff to potting soil mix doesn't automatically overload or imbalance the ratio. And if its available and in short supply it can help.
And plants dont waste energy on roots. You want the largest mass you can grow.
Just showing some myths to take into consideration.
Because what you said last about multi part nute systems can be true. Maybe they exclude calcium or phosphorous.
Myco is kind of unnessary in containers. You want the roots to search out nutrients and water and fill the pot.
A good dry cycle accomplishes that.
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