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Anthem · Mar 16, 2021

BogartAmungus said:
Mars hydro get a lot of hate but my buddy just had to have them. He grows some fire with them. They are decent lights.

I have tried the Mars Lights, 2 TS1000's. Both drivers went out within 6 months about 1 month apart. I choose those because previously I had a reflector series that I only used for veg but the light went like 18 months with no issues. I have the lights away a few months ago and it took 3 months after paying for a new driver for Mars to send out the new driver and since giving the lights away half of the reflector light has burned out.

Porky1982 · Mar 16, 2021

Mr.GreenthumbOG said:
So what kind of veg times?

About 11 months.

Miiikke · Mar 16, 2021

First screen is done! Heading up to the next! Will spread and weave again there before flower!

growsince79 · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
I like the 2x2’ surface of the Mars 3000 and the 450, I should have the potential of 2lbs per 3’x3’ screen if everything else is perfect

Lol you ain't getting 2 lbs in a 3*3 with any light

Porky1982 · Mar 16, 2021

HaveApuff said:
Looks like these plants are over feed from tip burn in second photo, and maybe a little to aggressive on the trimming in the beginning, which is why your plant is dwarfed from continuous over stressing. You do know that just because you increase the bud sites does not mean you increase your yield. It also involves the amount of light for each of those bud sites. and it is shared by your light source. in other words, more light increases more yield. From what I see in this post, I think you you will be forever in veg, and by the time you get these to flower and finish, I think you will be more disappointed than you think.

Yep. I can’t understand why anyone would expect treating a plant this way would be good for it and get it to produce a large yield. The poor thing is hammered.

Miiikke · Mar 16, 2021

growsince79 said:
Lol you ain't getting 2 lbs in a 3*3 with any light

How much would you say I can get max, with that and the mars 30000, so I can quote you later?

Miiikke · Mar 16, 2021

Porky1982 said:
Yep. I can’t understand why anyone would expect treating a plant this way would be good for it and get it to produce a large yield. The poor thing is hammered.

Yet its still growing... maybe tbats why they call it Weed..

gorillaglueaaron · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
How many would you say I can get max, with that and the mars 30000, so I can quote you later?

I'm not sure what you mean by "that", but I think you could get 1.5lb max in that space but that is extremely unlikely. A more realistic goal 1 lb. Again, not an estimate of your yield but a goal.

gorillaglueaaron · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
Yet its still growing... maybe tbats why they call it Weed..

It grows like a weed but it takes more than a crack in the sidewalk to grow well.

Porky1982 · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
Yet its still growing... maybe tbats why they call it Weed..

Oh it’s a very hardy plant. I’m interested to see how it ends up for ya.
I’ll probably have finished my grow from seed before ya done.
It’s going to be a fun job getting ya buds unscathed from all the netting.

Miiikke · Mar 16, 2021

Thats the whole point of this grow, big yeild, little space, now that I know Im gonna have a flat 2’x2’ true 450 led, 2lbs in a 2.5’x2.5’ screen could be done realistically is my theory, I want to see how close I can get. From what Ive learned already Id be dissapointed to see a lb on it now..

Miiikke · Mar 16, 2021

Porky1982 said:
Oh it’s a very hardy plant. I’m interested to see how it ends up for ya.
I’ll probably have finished my grow from seed before ya done.
It’s going to be a fun job getting ya buds unscathed from all the netting.

Ok you definitely dont understand what Im doing lol. There will be zero buds in netting in either of the two screens. I will be 7 months seed to dry. I knew that before I started

Miiikke · Mar 16, 2021

Im not saying I can definitely do it this time, but it can be done, and Ill get it figured out, but Im gonna try to get it on the first shot

Porky1982 · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
Thats the whole point of this grow, big yeild, little space, now that I know Im gonna have a flat 2’x2’ true 450 led, 2lbs in a 2.5’x2.5’ screen could be done realistically is my theory, I want to see how close I can get. From what Ive learned already Id be dissapointed to see a lb on it now..

7 months for a lb. You could of grown well over that with 2 grows over the same time period.
Sorry mate but no way will that plant produce 2lb.

gorillaglueaaron · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
Thats the whole point of this grow, big yeild, little space, now that I know Im gonna have a flat 2’x2’ true 450 led, 2lbs in a 2.5’x2.5’ screen could be done realistically is my theory, I want to see how close I can get. From what Ive learned already Id be dissapointed to see a lb on it now..

I only grow using a 2x2 tent so I know the ins and outs of its ability. 1lb is a far too high goal especially for a new grower. I am estimating 4-6oz out of mine this grow with probably more tops than you. And 450w will burn the plants, I know it's hard for you to accept but you just can't pump them that hard. With that plant, you should expect less than 4oz, probably closer to 2-3. I know you won't believe me until you harvest but it's the truth. Sorry bud. If you're legitimately going for yield, I would chop this plant and start over. Some people might disagree but it's going to take you another month minimum to get it to be ready for flowering and then another 2 months for the flower itself. If you start over with a few plants, you could have them ready in 4 months. It's an extra month but you'll get much better results. Please listen to the people trying to help you.

gorillaglueaaron · Mar 16, 2021

Porky1982 said:
7 months for a lb. You could of grown well over that with 2 grows over the same time period.
Sorry mate but no way will that plant produce 2lb.

I disagree. A large 2x2 grow could yield up to 1/2lb I think but it would take at least 4 months.

Porky1982 · Mar 16, 2021

gorillaglueaaron said:
I disagree. A large 2x2 grow could yield up to 1/2lb I think but it would take at least 4 months.

That’s what I meant. Half a lb a grow over 2 grows.
I also agree the plant he has going now will struggle to go over 5oz.

gorillaglueaaron · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
Im not saying I can definitely do it this time, but it can be done, and Ill get it figured out, but Im gonna try to get it on the first shot

Dreaming big is good but trying to grow 4oz per square ft isn't even slightly realistic. Look all around the farm at the most skilled growers here. You won't find a single grower get more than 2.5oz/sq ft.

Edit: Sorry, I realized that you are trying to grow 8oz/sq ft. Good luck!

gorillaglueaaron · Mar 16, 2021

Porky1982 said:
That’s what I meant. Half a lb a grow over 2 grows.
I also agree the plant he has going now will struggle to go over 5oz.

Especially since in a 2x2, there isn't much room for heaters, humidifiers, CO2... that will help get a large harvest.

Anthem · Mar 16, 2021

Miiikke said:
Thats the whole point of this grow, big yeild, little space, now that I know Im gonna have a flat 2’x2’ true 450 led, 2lbs in a 2.5’x2.5’ screen could be done realistically is my theory, I want to see how close I can get. From what Ive learned already Id be dissapointed to see a lb on it now..

I admit your goals but lets get things back to earth. If you get anything over about 6 zips you should be happy.

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