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Well, my husband went and bacterially dominated the veggie bed by rototilling the whole thing.
Interesting that you seem to make rather similar points about the studies Chalker-Scott used as she did.
However, the wood chips, are you saying that the rule outlined in TWM that says woody mulches promote fungal dominance are off..? Or simply that she's (Chalker-Scott) asserting that by solely using wood chips you will achieve inoculation of such fungal spores? I can't believe she would make that sort of assertion, I mean... really?
I would stay away from the woodchips. The tricoderma in your soil will break it down the wood (cellulose broken down with the enzyme cellulace), and from what I have learned this is not the direction youwant to tricodema going. I am still looking for the specific article that breaks down why its bad (something to do with the enzymes tricoderma expresses to feed cellulace vs chitinace (spelling)), but if you happen to have Maximun Yield May 2010, it talks a little about it.
Also tricoderma can be sensitive to clorine so if your watering an outside garden, a screw on filter that removes the clorine would be a good idea. I would expect the same for cloramine, and its slow release clorine and you may still have problems, and since you cannot see your soil biology... Better safe than sorry?
Off on a tangent, but compost teas are alot like effing with the biology in your hydro res. The bottom line is its impossible from looking at it to know who are the good guys and who are the bad guys (and what is really in there). I mean if you brew a compost tea up, how do you know you are getting th desired bacteria. You don't :(
Ordered some Pro-Tekt last night based on your recommendation.
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Why is trichoderma a bad thing? The only negatives that I've heard associated with trichoderma is that they can inhibit mycorrhizal colonization. Could you please post some more information on this. I use wood chips to promote fungal growth all the time, and it makes up a significant portion of my compost pile for good reason.
As for the compost teas, I would have to respectfully disagree with you. We know the "good guys" are predominantly aerobic. E. coli, salmonella, and other pathogens are typically anaerobes or facultative anaerobes. By maintaining dissolved oxygen levels above 6 mg/l we are able to select for aerobic microbes, which is how we know the that the microbes we are making are beneficial.
In fact, I would say it's a more natural process than any over-the-counter biological product because we're creating a nutrient cycling or microbial loop in the brewer that's mimicking Mother Nature on a concentrated scale.
I did see your other products. I added the Pro-Tekt to another order of some stuff I needed anyway, so I haven't gotten onto the simplicitea site to get the others yet.
My mom has been a master gardener for almost 20 years, and she relies on Miracle Grow soils that she heavily amends with composts and lots of home made mulches and pine straw mulches. I've looked through her shed in the past, and has she lots of various chemical nutes/boosters, but I've noticed that most of them are still sealed or almost unused. She has great flower gardens, but when I was a kid and we'd do veggies, we'd always have pests problems. I know now how we could have made healthier plants to avoid that. She's getting to an age that she needs lots of help in the garden, but I'm going to help her with an organic veggie garden this year and we're both excited. Hopefully we'll both end up learning from one another.
Sorry that's a bit off-topic, I just saw master gardeners mentioned and wanted to add my two-sense that they certainly aren't the "end-all be-all" when it comes to getting the healthiest veggies and biggest yields.
Much appreciated, and good on your mom! Much of what's being discussed here are techniques that I apply everywhere on our property. We bought a brand new home in '05 and the land around the house had been stripped bare. Couple that with neither me nor my husband knowing a thing about landscaping and you end up using weeds for landscaping. I still do (hey, who needs to get rid of woolly mullein when it attracts all the same goldfinches and other seed-eating birds as purple thistle?).I did see your other products. I added the Pro-Tekt to another order of some stuff I needed anyway, so I haven't gotten onto the simplicitea site to get the others yet.
My mom has been a master gardener for almost 20 years, and she relies on Miracle Grow soils that she heavily amends with composts and lots of home made mulches and pine straw mulches. I've looked through her shed in the past, and has she lots of various chemical nutes/boosters, but I've noticed that most of them are still sealed or almost unused. She has great flower gardens, but when I was a kid and we'd do veggies, we'd always have pests problems. I know now how we could have made healthier plants to avoid that. She's getting to an age that she needs lots of help in the garden, but I'm going to help her with an organic veggie garden this year and we're both excited. Hopefully we'll both end up learning from one another.
Sorry that's a bit off-topic, I just saw master gardeners mentioned and wanted to add my two-sense that they certainly aren't the "end-all be-all" when it comes to getting the healthiest veggies and biggest yields.
This may be of interest to some....thought it >does< come in a bottle.....
more widely available from Safer Gro
All products labelled as "Promot MZM" are chocked-full of trichoderma.
great shit for clones....
happy farmin'!
s h
The first link offers both the ingredients/source of the trichoderma is as well as the uses for the product.
I use it for the white, fuzzy roots.
I also use a myco product that includes kelp, leonardite/humics/trace mins/blahdeeblah!
As someone else said....put it (all) in there and let the plant sort out what it wants.
have fun, folks
s h
The first link offers both the ingredients/source of the trichoderma is as well as the uses for the product.
I use it for the white, fuzzy roots.
I also use a myco product that includes kelp, leonardite/humics/trace mins/blahdeeblah!
As someone else said....put it (all) in there and let the plant sort out what it wants.
have fun, folks
s h
CT Guy - Im interested in what you have to say about the enod's and tricoderma not getting along. My favorite product is great white, but its really expensive, but the best of all the fungi packs I have tried. It has endos ectos and tricoderma, all in one. Like I said it works better than anything I have tried, :)
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