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I got deficiencies and toxicities lol But overall Keeping the PPFD low, nutrients baseline Pretty much my first flower run with “jacks 321 “ AND coco My ratio has gotta be fucked I am following the 321 /gallon tap water Reducing to 500ppm ish I’m...
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I got deficiencies and toxicities lol

But overall

Keeping the PPFD low, nutrients baseline

Pretty much my first flower run with “jacks 321 “ AND coco

My ratio has gotta be fucked

I am following the 321 /gallon tap water

Reducing to 500ppm ish


I’m sure they’ll be fine though till harvest, we shall see haha

I’m fucked when it comes to testing the Ph or ppm right now

All meters have fucked off entirely

Off to start a new job

Talk to y’all later

Thanks.
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What humidity… id bump that feed back up to 800ppm
 
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What humidity… id bump that feed back up to 800ppm
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It’s always hot so my ac is always on so the little apartment is always dehumidified

Need more humidifiers, the flower tent usually stays in the 50s rh, besides the spike up to high 60s, with a LST of 75-79, ambient 78-80

The damn veg tent was at 35 RH 80f, know they gotta be stressin

Hopefully this rain helps
 
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Week 3-5 are the most intensive nutrient wise! I agree with Aqua

 
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It’s always hot so my ac is always on so the little apartment is always dehumidified

Need more humidifiers, the flower tent usually stays in the 50s rh, besides the spike up to high 60s, with a LST of 75-79, ambient 78-80

The damn veg tent was at 35 RH 80f, know they gotta be stressin

Hopefully this rain helps
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They look ok its plant temos tgat matter and transpiration rates will be high so i think your ok.

As @Shaded_One said this is when they are hungry as hell. Flush was to re stabilize the media due to amount of watering and runoff. Light feed after so they dont starve. Then back to regular feed strength with proper runoff will prevent needing a flush again
 
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They look ok its plant temos tgat matter and transpiration rates will be high so i think your ok.

As @Shaded_One said this is when they are hungry as hell. Flush was to re stabilize the media due to amount of watering and runoff. Light feed after so they dont starve. Then back to regular feed strength with proper runoff will prevent needing a flush again
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Getting on that track, home now will probably water again soon

Thanks sirs
 
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Week 3-5 are the most intensive nutrient wise! I agree with Aqua

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The balling on a budget 321 recipe is the same for veg AND flower ??

That doesn’t seem right, as ratio demands change.
 
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The balling on a budget 321 recipe is the same for veg AND flower ??

That doesn’t seem right, as ratio demands change.
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They do and they dont. That recipe is a middle ground fairly well suited across the entire grow.

If you drop the nitrogen down you want to br raising the ppm.
 
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She’s been growing back out!

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They do and they dont. That recipe is a middle ground fairly well suited across the entire grow.

If you drop the nitrogen down you want to br raising the ppm.
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Interesting

So much more to learn still
 
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Interesting

So much more to learn still
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I believe that Bugbee runs a 20-20-20 all the way through the plant lifecycle too
 
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I believe that Bugbee runs a 20-20-20 all the way through the plant lifecycle too
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Right

Suppose the plant takes what it needs/wants but also seems not the case either idk
 
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Right

Suppose the plant takes what it needs/wants but also seems not the case either idk
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Yeah you'd think a lot would be going to waste or that the plant obviously would have slightly higher/lower demands for certain things as time goes on but I ain't no plant rocket scientist ;)
 
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Well 2 basic pathways… ion exchange and passive. Ratios are important but they are also effected by concentration
 
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Well 2 basic pathways… ion exchange and passive. Ratios are important but they are also effected by concentration
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I assume he uses higher %'s because he grows hydro? I couldn't imagine using a 20-20-20 dry amendment full cycle
 
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I assume he uses higher %'s because he grows hydro? I couldn't imagine using a 20-20-20 dry amendment full cycle
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i think he uses the 20-20-20 on his coco/spaghum/verm mix - but that is "like a hydro mix"

id have to go back and watch his videos
 
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i think he uses the 20-20-20 on his coco/spaghum/verm mix - but that is "like a hydro mix"

id have to go back and watch his videos
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Yea he does
 
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I assume he uses higher %'s because he grows hydro? I couldn't imagine using a 20-20-20 dry amendment full cycle
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keeps it balanced and the plant will do the rest?

idk
 
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So ratio wise you can tweak and some genetics like slightly different mixes but imo you want to stay between 100-130ppm of nitrogen.

Brands like athena run a lower ratio of nitrogen so they are run at a higher ppm often close or more than 2000ppm
 
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So ratio wise you can tweak and some genetics like slightly different mixes but imo you want to stay between 100-130ppm of nitrogen.

Brands like athena run a lower ratio of nitrogen so they are run at a higher ppm often close or more than 2000ppm
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holy fuck

Thinking how that works

Also are those designed for CLFeed?
 
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