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Don't quote me on this but I think Berner was the hype man behind gsc and has nothing to do with breeding it.Old thread I know but I'm researching this subject and came across it and thought I'd chime in.
I want to talk about the success or Berner and Girl scout cookies. He is praised for the gsc strain but it is a cross using OG Kush which isn't an original strain. He did use Durban poison which is a landrace strain but he technically used someone else's work by using og kush.
What is everyone's opinion on this?
To be honest then days is dead the many you buy a pack or recieve a clone it’s yours but i guess an outcross hunted male but the old rules mean shit nowQuestions for the breeders .
When does a strain become mine? At what point in my breeding does a strain I grew from your beans that I'm chucking pollen to become my strain?
NO troll, just a conversation to get things straight in my world. Thanks for anyone who checks in with an answer.
Amen in breeding as we speakHere's a couple wrenches for the gears.
This has already been going on for a while now. The sad thing is, companies are filing on old strains that are not even their strain which leaves everyone liable.
As with the worry of Monsanto, there is already a company that has stolen over 100 known strains and has place proprietary markers in them. Big Pharma couldn't beat it so why not own it? So be careful wishing it goes legal at the federal level in the USA. We all know who funds the Republicans and Democrats national committee.
I believe it will get back to a point that breeders will stop listing the cross for fear of liability.
So my advice would be;
You better be breeding and buying and building your own seed banks because at some point I believe we will all be in the underground once again. Its pretty simple to see in states where it is legal the political view is changing to take it away from you and I and give it all to the corporations.
Those of us that helped get the farm bill through for hemp got to see the dirty crap thats was done:
Change to the class 1 substance act to classify any part of cannabis being classified as a class 1 substance in effort to shut down the CBD market because 1 pharma company has s patent on a med that uses CBD.
E comerace companies threatened with federal charges for processing payments for CBD items which caused hundreds of companies thousands of dollars when all their credit card processing got pulled.
This just came out from the governors office in Michigan. It doesn't say anything about protecting the peopkes right to grow:
This administrative change will help Michigan continue to lead the country in its approach to cannabis by growing the hemp and marijuana economies, creating jobs, and investing in local communities,” said CRA Executive Director Andrew Brisbo. “The new CRA will pick up where the MRA left off – continuing to establish Michigan as the national model for a REGULATORY program that stimulates BUSINESS GROWTH while preserving safe CONSUMER ACCESS to cannabis.”
Say goodbye to those caregiver and cultivators grow licenses unless the people start educating their self and showing up to the fight.
So one of my 22 cft freezer isn't full of food. Everything from African, Thailand Vietnamese, Cambodian. Pakistan, Afghanistan and all my favorite breeders. Dont be the starving grasshopper, be the ant.
Boycott disrupts cannabis industry
There are growing pains associated with any new industry, and cannabis is no exception.grbj.com
Look at seed banks like growers choice. They brand it as theirs but the buy wholesale from Spain. Its all copy cat strains or regulars bought from the original breeder and bred for resale.Old thread I know but I'm researching this subject and came across it and thought I'd chime in.
I want to talk about the success or Berner and Girl scout cookies. He is praised for the gsc strain but it is a cross using OG Kush which isn't an original strain. He did use Durban poison which is a landrace strain but he technically used someone else's work by using og kush.
What is everyone's opinion on this?
Nope. GG#4 was created by Josey Wales and Lone Watty, when Josey was growing 3 different strains. Sour Dub,Chems Sister, Chocolate Diesel.Isn't original glue aka gg#4 just that ?
2 strains by different breeders thrown together ? Hard to think of more successful strain.
The strain becomes yours the day you bought it. If you are just copying without a goal or improving it or preserving it then you are like a puppy mill, it's unethical not to credit the source or make shit up. They may have years involved and a lot of time and money where as the buyer has the work done for him already and is only in the position due to the origal breeders efforts.Questions for the breeders .
When does a strain become mine? At what point in my breeding does a strain I grew from your beans that I'm chucking pollen to become my strain?
NO troll, just a conversation to get things straight in my world. Thanks for anyone who checks in with an answer.
To be honest then days is dead the many you buy a pack or recieve a clone it’s yours but i guess an outcross hunted male but the old rules mean shit now
And that is exactly correct. Due to the trade mark issues was the name changed. They only licensed originally 3 people to grow it and I think before he died there were 8. There were very few seed sales to the public. At the time of his death in 2020 they were working on quite a few more glue strains.Nope. GG#4 was created by Josey Wales and Lone Watty, when Josey was growing 3 different strains. Sour Dub,Chems Sister, Chocolate Diesel.
It was created by mistake. The Chems Sis Hermied and he took it as loss but saved some of the cross pollinated beans. Like 8 years later Lone Watty and Josey Wales were doing a grow together. And Lone told Josey yo I still have those beans from that hermie a few years ago. Well they popped 6 saved like 4 more and bamn you got GG#4 now known as Original Glue. Due to Copyright laws.
GG #4 is my all time favorite strain next to Chemdog.
RIP Josey Wales
I don't know, maybe we should delete any thread over 6 months so no one has a source for history.
I don't know, maybe we should delete any thread over 6 months so no one has a source for history.
For a clone? When you take a cut of something you like from seed and call it w.e the f you want. Doesn't mean anyone cares, but it's yours.Questions for the breeders .
When does a strain become mine? At what point in my breeding does a strain I grew from your beans that I'm chucking pollen to become my strain?
NO troll, just a conversation to get things straight in my world. Thanks for anyone who checks in with an answer.
If that breeder was your original source, then that breeder should ALWAYS be given credit for being your original source. It's not just about giving credit where credit is due, but also being able to keep proper tabs on the line. Edit: In the case of commercial greed, what Treecutter said: Post #26Questions for the breeders .
When does a strain become mine? At what point in my breeding does a strain I grew from your beans that I'm chucking pollen to become my strain?
NO troll, just a conversation to get things straight in my world. Thanks for anyone who checks in with an answer.
The writing is on the wall. Link: The Big Pharma Takeover of Medical CannabisIts pretty simple to see in states where it is legal the political view is changing to take it away from you and I and give it all to the corporations.
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