I am still unsure but thanks all for the ideas. I guess there are so many types of bugs and sub-species that it can be quite difficult to ID certain ones. I always like to try and determine what it is when I find some just for the learning experience.
Like one grow shop owner said to me: "Everything in this shop works but somebody hates each product and method" "Grower experience is everything and yield is directly related to grower talent......not LED's vs HID not one nutrient over another or much of anything else but grower talent".
DP