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No more limits upon med patients UNLESS your doctor has placed limits on you (bad doctor!) or you've gone ahead and participated in the state ID system. If you've got the card (ID) then you are voluntarily limiting yourself to those numbers.Ok so lets say you are drying your 6 or so pounds off your LEGAL GROW (in sacramento california the limit is 6 mature plants, about a pound off each plant)
Bad warrant, no such thing as numbers anymore. Are they trying to take your weed?and for some god forsaken reason you end up getting handed a search warrant from law enforcement, the law here in sacramento specifically states you can posess 8 "PROCESSED" ounces....so what happenes when your whole 6 pounds is "PROCESSED"????
I've had to go through a few background checks and the only potential employer who's found anything on me (my ONE arrest ever) was the Department of Corrections, cuz that's how they roll. An arrest does not a conviction make, ya dig?lets say this actually happened. chances are you would at the VERY LEAST end up having to defend your legal rights in front of a judge, and lets not forget, having to explain it to every possible employer that does a backround check, as an arrest does NOT get removed from your record even if the charges are dropped, or unfounded.
Hand them my attorney's business card and tell them nothing's happening until he gets there. If they have a warrant, though, ain't much you can really do about it right then and there.so finally, how would you defend yourself (legal rights) ON THE SPOT to prevent being detained??
I did a thread on how LE in California determines maturity and have consulted with an attorney. Go read that thread.sorry for all the hypetheticals, but im thinking this is not a uncommon situation.... so THANKS FOR ANY AND ALL IMPUT!
the state limits are null and void - but I thought if you lived in a place that had set limits then those are legit
420 was put in place in part to make counties recognize 215
That's a double-edged sword. How, exactly, do I quantify my use without WEIGHING it? I would need a scale. You see where that leaves me, yes? When I was visited by our local narcotics task force I told them I just smoke a LOT of weed, ALL DAY LONG (this is absolutely the truth, I'm up around 6am every day and I'm smoking by 7am). I was asked how many joints I smoke, I told them I have no idea, I use glass and I keep my bowl packed. I also told them I'm experimenting with making extracts to put on, instead of ingesting, and that requires a lot of bud/material.Limits on PLANT numbers have been deemed null and void (a patient may posses enough plants/plant material to cover medical needs)....However the way I understand the law in this particular area is that in order for for the medical needs argument to hold up in a jury trial (when in possession of more than 6/12 or 8 oz.) a record of needs and use must be kept for each patient. i.e I ingest 4 grams of hashish a day and it takes 4 oz of plant material to make the 4 grams of hash a day (for example only, not a recipe). Lets say I am in possession of 40 oz of processed material (i'm allowed 8 oz on hand) but I have been keeping a record of cannabis use over a three month period of time and can show/prove that the 40 oz will only be enough plant material to provide me with 10 days of medicine.
Good record keeping is a must and proof of medical necessity is the ONLY defense in a jury trial.
I believe you are correct, an arrest means nothing. It's a conviction that sticks with you, like a dog shit on your shoe.It is doubtful that the DOJ, DEA have the time to harass patients ATTEMPTING to follow the law, its the gardens that are clearly profit driven that typically catch there eye.
An arrest record doesn't mean shit, but a conviction on your record can be a burden to say the least.
(If I am mistaken or have interpreted the law wrong please inform me)
Stay safe, Happy growing!
FJ
No, those limits no longer apply. The only limitors in California come from the following; obtaining a state ID card, by doing so you are voluntarily limiting yourself to 12/6 plants and, if I recall, 8oz finished product. This is according to the ruling by the circuit court of appeals on The People vs Kelly (sp? on Kelly). But if a county or city has said that patients can only have or grow so much, that is now nullified specifically by the court's ruling.the state limits are null and void - but I thought if you lived in a place that had set limits then those are legit
420 was put in place in part to make counties recognize 215
No, local laws can no longer place limitors on patients. That is outside the scope and intent of 215.Only if you have a state card from my understanding.
Obtaining a state card is an agreement with the state, agreeing you will obey all local rules and regulations. (i.e 6bloom/or12veg AND 8OZ. processed materials) or whatever local laws allow for.
FJ
Yes, it does throw them out. There is now no such thing as county limits on plant numbers or finished product. The only problem you have, and this is already a given seeing as how being 215 compliant is only a defense should you be brought to trial, is supporting those numbers and amounts.my understanding of the state card is your voluntarily agreeing to the limits set by 420 in which case you would need a drs rec for higher numbers
throwing out 420 does not throw out the guidelines set by the cities/counties where you live - those were likely put inplace before 420
It's supposed to be issued by each county's health department or equivalent agency, and each can set their own prices for it. Outfits like Medi-Cann, I believe (but don't quote me, remember I don't have a card) will often issue you a card that I think qualifies as state ID or is entered into the state database, I do know it's a photo ID card. I know my county charges about $185 for an ID card, and that this is an issue they've never argued against complying with, unlike Marin, San Berdoo and San Diego counties did.T love, iirc, "If I Remember correctly" as for Q's 2, A rec is from your Dr, the State Card is from the Calif Dept fo Health. its 120.00 I think and you need a Dr Rec to take down there.
i thought one of u guys said that more than 99 plants is fed case no matter what. manditorie minnimun of 4years. i purty sure its like dat.
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