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@dankninja his f3 of what? I have an f2 of his tahoe where the dad fully flowered under 18/6 or 24/0 and wouldn't reveg... I forget who I got them from years ago, but the point is the offspring didn't auto or even flower sooner outdoors. I've wondered if it was a root binding thing, i've seen a number of strains 'Autoflower' their males out when root bound