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Its not dark with the moon out either or the din of the city lights....It was just fun to argue thisSure, there's a difference between direct sunlight and indirect sunlight. But it's definitely not "dark," you know?
Zero thc Russian hemp.Except for the many naturally occuring autoflower seeds that exist in climates that have 24 hours of sunlight?
I did say nowhere you can grow it. I don't think an outdoor grow north of the Artic Circle will produce anything seeing as there are no trees north of the circle 3c - 36f bright and sunny....24hrs a day brrrrrrr....Short plants lolIt's not about who's right or wrong, it's the research we did along the way.
is there a cost/benefit analysis for this? that would be one way to ACTUALLY answer the conundrum.
that is a cost analysis, which is interesting but not helpful. i was looking for the cost to benefit analysis. it would list things like as a cost running the lights the electric charges as a benefit it might make more or better product... but there are a LOT more things involved in the analysys
not what a cost benefit analysis is though.
that is 1/3. then they do a benefit analysis (it includes things like environmental impact and differences in water and anything at all that might be considered beneficial in any setting). then they do a comparison analysis. that is the analysis i would like to see.
oh, and it needs to be comparative (a study on each method)
I may be wrong, but I think it might have to do with the seed to sale regulations. They want as big of plants as possible for tracking puposes- even though a sea of green would be more profitable without regulations. These guys aren't constrained by 6-8' ceilings.Maybe you should contact a commercial grow consultant. ;-)
I found the article I posted In seconds. Every similar article in the search also had 24 hour veg. No one with commercial level money as a goal does it different even 40 years later.
do some research. I bet you can find something.
We're a long way from the government funding that kind of research... maybe someone with too much money can check into that lol.im not arguing whether it is good or bad, i asked for a document that would show in which areas and by what scale.
for instance, what if you could produce some level of euphoria that you cant any other way, this might not be cost effective, but might be medicinally beneficial. so you analyze the cost to see if then it would be a benefit since it could make a pharmacutical. those are the things i would like to know. is there any way that it could be a benefit cost ratio. and knowing that growers dont make money doing it is one aspect. but then you might scale it down, is it worth it to the home grower with only 2 plants? maybe it is, maybe they cant get the environment right in the off, but can in the on, it might be a cost benefit by not running whatever ac or other accoutrements you might need. maybe the benefit is in off site and travel... there are just more things to consider, and an analysis would do it.
i have found that most things in some instances will be good when normally bad or bad when normally good. i am just the sort to love to read the reports and see the facts.
I may be wrong, but I think it might have to do with the seed to sale regulations. They want as big of plants as possible for tracking puposes- even though a sea of green would be more profitable without regulations. These guys aren't constrained by 6-8' ceilings.
The first sogs I saw in the early 80s were always 1-2 week veg under 16hrs. The purpose of 16 hours instead of 18 was to keep the clones short and on the brink of flower. Running 24hrs or 18 sends her back to insane veg. That's not what we wanted. I don't know of any growers in my state doing sog nowadays. They all want to grow 3lb plants.they had no regulations years ago when they figured this all out. Sea of green is what a lot of them do. But they still run veg lights 24 hrs. You have 2-4 weeks to finish veg regardless on a 3 months cycle.
The first sogs I saw in the early 80s were always 1-2 week veg under 16hrs. The purpose of 16 hours instead of 18 was to keep the clones short and on the brink of flower. Running 24hrs or 18 sends her back to insane veg. That's not what we wanted. I don't know of any growers in my state doing sog nowadays. They all want to grow 3lb plants.
No way are they getting as good of relative yield as a traditional sog. There is no way in hell I can grow 24-0 in my little closet. You should do a side by side and let us know how it works for you.
It is on the cusp of flowering- thats the whole point. We had mother plants that could make 500 clones at a time and flip after one week veg at 16hrs and be 100% ripe in 50-55 days. Big plant will never get you that kind of relative yield indoors.i already tried both 18 and 24. I just personally preferred Letting them go dark a while for my own rest and peace of mind. Also saved a third of cost of nutes, lights and of course water and gardening time.
but if I had a schedule to keep I would go 24 hrs.
and big plants are for plant counts. Didn’t matter when we were hiding.
I have dealt with all kinds of growers and sizes but I didn’t even know you were suggested to veg 18/6 when I started myself. I just did what I thought everyone did and the grow books said. Left the veg lights on 24 hrs. My experience is all east coast until I moved to Colorado when I was 30. And weed was still illegal there when I was living there so none of this new industry stuff yet.
honestly I never heard of 16 hr veg anywhere. That’s on the cusp of possible flowering I thought.
whatever works.How do you guys feel about 20/4
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