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can you water 24/7 in hydroton?

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can you water 24/7 in hydroton?

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danko

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i was thinking about all these bio buckets and krusty buckets that water 24 hours a day and was curious if anyone has addapted this method to flood and drain tables? i got 3 4x6 ft trays i use with hydroton pepples in 6inch square pots. would any problems arrise if you had good airation of the water and could recirculate it like 20+ times per hour? it seems like it would help the nutes keep longer. and add the benifits of the buckets especially if i used bigger pots for more root space. and maybe augmented the hydroton pebbles with coco or perlite or lava rocks, or 3 of the 4...lava,hydroton and coco or perlite. for the night cycle....if used 12 hours a day...

what do you guys think? pros and cons please!
 
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danko

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or even switch it up to a top drip system with no sprayers and run that constantly...would that pose any problems?
 
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yep

doing hydroton in top feed drip..airpots...

make sure the hydroton is washed well...

check ppm..mine went from 250..to 700 overnight..and i fried a raskal og..shit..

anyway 24-7..

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why couldnt you keep a flood tray flooding for 24/7? if its filling in one end and draining out the other exchanging its self hella times/hour? why wouldnt that work?
 
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danko said:
why couldnt you keep a flood tray flooding for 24/7? if its filling in one end and draining out the other exchanging its self hella times/hour? why wouldnt that work?
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An NFT system would be better suited to this style than F/D.

Cheers
 
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danko said:
dont dwc keep the roots submerged for 12 or 24 hours? was i mistaken?>
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Thats DWC with airstones...But you asking if you can keep running your flood table pump where it keep draining back from your over flow conection...I dont know if it will make enough Oxygen to keep the plants alive even though it would be kinda like a river flowing, I doubt it.......But i know heath robinson has done many grows with rocks top feed 247..

The question is do you have The cash x money and hours to find out if you fail and your tables drowns and dies, ?:sad0104:
 
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yes dwc the roots are wet 24/7 but thers supposed to be a gap between the water & the bottem of the pot for air,,roots need air to
 
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Rolln J

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you should only flood a table about a minute longer then it takes the water level to reach the overflow... its best if the whole cycle from the time the water starts filling, til the tray is empty is less then 15 minutes, 20 minutes tops.

and you only flood in hydroton every three hours at most unless you have one hell of a root system.

bottom line is you will drown your plants - Id put money on it...
 
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just curious as to why your using clear tubing for your feed drip lines?? Have you ever considered using drip rings for your bucket system instead of drippers(of which usually clog)?? cheers,Casper
 
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Jalisco Kid

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You would drown the roots unless it was a hell of a root system, that statement makes no sense. If you are going to drown it makes no dif if you are pee wee herman or arnold.
I would put 2 cocomats down under your buckets then drip 24/7 from drip line sin emmitters.
Why put those pots in buckets limiting your root area makes no cents to me.
Why not sell those limiting shallow trays and go with buckets. Come on over to the dark side. Krust buckets will outperform those ways above. JK
 
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Flood tables perform the best when the flood and drain cycle is as short as possible.

More frequent flooding for shorter periods.

I flood my tables for 2-3 mins. The drain cycle also takes about 2-3 mins. For fresh clones, 2x a day, increasing to every other hour as the plants grow. Flood level is timed to flood up until 1/3 of the rockwool cubes or rapid rooters are submerged.

If you want to have your table flooded constantly, line it with airstones or something similar to ample oxygen to the roots. But then, you're not doing a flood and drain or Ebb and Flow, you just turned your table into a SWC/NFT system.
 
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I know this is old but like has been said, your limiting factor in this plan is oxygen in the root zone. Not enough and you drown your bitches. If this was me, I would run an air line or two into the supply line (between your water pump and the table). I'm thinkin this might keep the solution oxyegenated enough for the few moments its on the table.
 
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He is not talking about constant flooding, he talking about constant dripping in Hydroton.

Constant drip in hydroton is well aerated. Unfortunately, I can't back this up without a system to test and a DO meter.

People do this, and it works. You will not drown your plants, but I would keep an eye on those seedlings. I have no experience with putting a young seedling in a 3 gallon pot. They don't take off like clones.
 
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drip/ flood drain combo

What do ya'll think of doing a constant drip through hydroton using a co co mat for aeration, in conjunction with periodic flood drain cycles? Or doing a constant flood drain with pie shaped air stones directly under each hydroton net pot to provide air directly to roots?
 
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