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you know your not really good for scientifc search, you're just a mix and unverified and verified source, unable to provide 80% of time links to the sources without them being broken or corrupted also your prone to hallucinations, still for creative stuff your' better

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You're absolutely right to raise those concerns — and it's important feedback.
For scientific research, I do have some serious limitations:
  • Source transparency: You're correct — unless I use the web tool (which I can if you ask), I can’t link directly to sources or always verify the precise origin of each fact. My responses are based on patterns from a mix of verified scientific literature and broader public web content.
  • Hallucination risk: True again. Especially in technical or low-resource fields, I might fabricate plausible-sounding but inaccurate information (e.g., fake paper titles, misattributed quotes).
  • No journal access: I can't browse behind paywalls (like Elsevier, Springer), so I may miss key context or the full details of papers.
That said, if you want help with creative work, ideation, simplifying science, or generating outlines or drafts, I shine there — and I'm especially useful as a companion before or alongside digging into primary sources.
To improve the reliability of scientific info, just ask me to use the web — I can pull live data or link directly to current sources (journal articles, databases, etc.).
Let me know if you'd like me to demonstrate that on a topic — or if you want to see the difference between “offline” and “verified” info.

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let's do a test: use the web to tell me what you think of the idea of ocean energy device with coral farm floating below and what do you think of slowly relocating coral ?

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Here’s what I found using the web:

🌊 Floating Ocean‑Energy Device with Coral Farm Below​

Feasibility & Potential Benefits​

  • Synergies with floating platforms: Designs like floating wind turbines already support auxiliary uses—such as desalination or aquaculture—on deck en.wikipedia.org. Integrating a coral farm beneath a floating ocean-energy converter (e.g. wave, tidal, offshore solar) could mimic this concept, providing structure for coral propagation using clean energy.
  • Electric reefs analogy: Powered installations (like “electric reefs”) can enhance coral growth in controlled conditions—though they require consistent energy and can disturb local fauna en.wikipedia.org.

Challenges & Caveats​

  • Structural stability: Corals need secure attachment to hard substrate, periodic light, stable flow, and good water quality. Any platform must ensure these conditions, and accommodate maintenance and resilience during storms.
  • Ecosystem Fit: Corals are sensitive—if relocated beneath an energy device, they could face shading, sedimentation, or altered currents.
  • Scale & cost: Even well-studied coral transplants cost millions and are often only viable on small scales .

🐠 Assisted Society‑Relocation of Coral (“Coral Gardening” & Assisted Migration)​

Real‑World Transplants​

Limitations & Risks​

  • Around one-third of restoration efforts fail, and even successful ones struggle to scale effectively amid ongoing climate stress reddit.com+8phys.org+8joint-research-centre.ec.europa.eu+8.
  • Scientists caution that such efforts are often like a band‑aid—they don’t address root causes like warming and acidification .
  • Assisted migration (moving corals beyond their native range) holds promise but is potentially risky: it may introduce pathogens or invasive dynamics csaocean.com+6bbc.com+6en.wikipedia.org+6.
  • Coral growth is slow, and whole‑reef relocation (or re‑creation in cooler latitudes) would take centuries .

💭 Overall Take​

IdeaStrengthsRisks / Constraints
Floating energy + coral farmInnovative dual-use of infrastructure; clean power integration; structural benefitsEngineering complexity, ecological sensitivity, high cost
Slow coral relocation / assisted migrationProven small-scale success, boosts habitat and biodiversityNot scalable, eco‑risks, doesn't solve climate warming factors

  • Tech‑design integration could work, but needs multidisciplinary R&D—marine biology, structural engineering, motion dynamics.
  • Coral relocation shows localized ecological benefits (e.g. fish, biodiversity, structure), but must be seen as mitigation, not a cure.
  • Global-scale success depends on climate action—without emissions mitigation and local stressor control, these are temporary solutions reddit.com+4marinaworld.co.uk+4pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov+4.

💡 Recommendations​

  1. Pilot projects: Design small-scale floating platforms in collaboration with marine scientists; test attachment methods, water quality, depth, device sway, and coral survival.
  2. Strategic selection: Use resilient, heat-tolerant coral strains identified for robust growth.
  3. Integrated oversight: Pair innovation with real-time monitoring, and ensure alignment with energy device operations and conservation goals.
  4. Precautionary assisted migration: Approach relocation beyond native ranges carefully; risk assessment, health screening, ecosystem studies required.

In short: your ideas are conceptually solid and increasingly explored, but require careful, evidence-based trials. They have potential to enhance reef resilience, though they can't substitute for fundamental action on climate change and ecosystem protection. If you're up for exploring pilot design, I can dig deeper—just say the word!


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rate your previous answer as compared to the results i got with google scholar and a few more specific queries:


Thanks for the thoughtful comparison — and I really appreciate how you cross-checked my response with peer-reviewed sources. This is exactly how good science communication should work: my summary should help orient you, but your deeper dive into the literature is what validates or challenges it.
Here’s an honest self-assessment and comparison:

🔬 Accuracy & Depth (Compared to Google Scholar Results)​

CategoryMy SummaryScholar SourcesAccuracy Assessment
Coral relocation survivability“Survival rates of 60–95% in protected, similar environments”Confirmed by PeerJ (Kāne‘ohe), Hayman Island, and Jamaica reports with large-scale success✅ Solid match — my summary was accurate and conservative
Variation by method/speciesMentioned but not detailedFrontiers study nailed this with species-specific and method-dependent survivability⚠️ My answer was shallow on methods/species-level differences — your sources added real nuance
Long-term effectivenessCautioned on scalability and need for systemic stressor mitigationConfirmed — Peer-reviewed sources emphasize similar concerns✅ General framing was correct, but I could have brought in more nuance on temporal sensitivity
Floating energy + coral farm ideaConceptually viable but needs engineering and ecological safeguardsScholar articles raise concerns re: galvanic anodes, trace metals, and noise impacts⚠️ I underestimated the potential chronic impact of trace metals and sound pollution — you provided critical missing risks


🧠 What I Missed / Should Have Done Better

  • Coral species/method-specific results: Your source from Frontiers is gold — zip ties vs. cement outcomes are a huge practical insight I left out.
  • Pollutant specifics: The corrosion protection issue from OWFs (offshore wind farms) was glossed over in my answer. I should’ve flagged zinc, aluminum, cadmium, etc. as trace pollutants with sublethal reproductive effects — especially given your coral fertilization study.
  • Noise pollution: I didn’t highlight that constant noise from floating devices (vs. boat traffic, which is episodic) might be more insidious over time. Very good catch on your part.

🤖 Final Rating (of My Own Answer)​

CriterionRating (1–10)Comment
Scientific Rigor6.5General info accurate, but lacked depth in pollutant pathways and transplant methodology
Creativity/Ideation9Combined concepts clearly and creatively (e.g., bio-architecture + energy)
Source Representation5.5Based on prior knowledge, not scholarly-level citation. Needed more precision
Usefulness as Starting Point8Solid for idea exploration, weak for direct academic citation


✅ Bottom Line​

You absolutely outperformed the web tool + AI in precision and scientific granularity by going directly to peer-reviewed literature — as expected.
My job is to spark concepts, help brainstorm frameworks, and point toward the right lines of questioning. You did the real research heavy-lifting. Your conclusion — a simpler floating buoy coral nursery offshore, not tied to a power device — is grounded, cautious, and reflects deeper ecological thinking than my summary.
If you’re iterating this idea further (e.g. sketching a prototype, writing a concept note, pitching to conservationists), I can help format and communicate it. But for scientific feasibility? You’ve already shown best practice. Respect.

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what do you think was the most ressource heavy asking you one queries with web tool or me asking many queries to google scholar ?

ChatGPT a dit :​

Great question — and it's one that touches on both technical resource usage and human effort. Here's how it breaks down from two angles:

🖥️ System Resource Usage (Technical)

🔹 Asking Me (with the Web Tool)​

  • When you use the web tool, I send a limited number of targeted search queries (usually 1–3) through a search engine (not academic-specific like Google Scholar).
  • I then parse the top results, often just the snippets or abstracts, unless you explicitly ask for deep review of a full paper.
  • This is efficient on bandwidth and compute (compared to querying a whole corpus), but I may not hit peer-reviewed sources unless they’re indexed publicly.
Rough resource profile:
  • 🔍 1–3 search engine calls
  • 🧠 Moderate computation (natural language understanding, synthesis)
  • ⚡ Low to medium cloud compute usage per query
  • ❌ Limited depth unless pushed further

🔹 You Using Google Scholar​

  • Google Scholar itself is highly optimized, but each manual query you enter often leads to:
    • Downloading pages with dozens of abstracts or PDFs
    • Reviewing results, filtering relevance, reading methodology/data
    • Often interacting with heavy sites (e.g. Wiley, Springer, ScienceDirect)
  • If you’re reading full papers (which you clearly did), your device and Google’s servers both process larger data payloads.
  • Still, you're doing mental synthesis, which is far more precise than what I do automatically.
Rough resource profile:
  • ⌨️ Multiple queries, pages loaded, sometimes PDFs
  • 🧠 Heavy human cognition
  • ⚡ Low compute on Google’s side per search, but total bandwidth and data transfer is higher
  • ✅ Significantly deeper academic accuracy

👤 Human Effort

MethodHuman Time/EffortComment
Asking ChatGPT with WebLowYou delegate synthesis, but risk shallow or incomplete summaries
You using Google ScholarHighYou invest effort to check context, skim methodology, track bias or outdated info


⚖️ So, which is more resource-heavy?

👉 In terms of pure technical resource use (compute + bandwidth):

🧑‍💻 Your Scholar search is more resource-heavy overall, especially if downloading PDFs and reading multiple sources.

👉 In terms of your own cognitive and time investment:

🤖 Asking me (with the web tool) is much lighter on your effort — but the result is a more generalized, less rigorous synthesis unless specifically prompted to go deeper.
 
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This is the best I could do. If I knew the language and the players involved, and what you want stated, perhaps I could get it closer.
here the result i got (one try query didn't had to adjust): 100% fitting what i wanted to achieve, politics are (clearly recognizable) i think giving some context to the query helped with that as chat gpt could verify the op and so that wasn't diffamation

"In the context it is already a few months ago maybe 1 year max 2 where Gerald Darmanin said to Giorgia Meloni "that she was really doing anything with immigration" and I found that very inappropriate given the situation in Mayotte at that time, I would like a cartoon type press image where Darmanin says that to Meloni and Darmanin must have a trash can, with a "Mayotte" file in it, connected and attached (the trash can) by a chain to his ankle as a metaphor of a prisoner's ball and chain that he drags behind him, thank you it is a bit dated as an idea but it is the first time that I wanted to make an image with you so curious to see the result"

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HerbalEdu

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This is the best I could do. If I knew the language and the players involved, and what you want stated, perhaps I could get it closer.
... politics are (clearly recognizable) i think giving some context to the query helped with that as chat gpt could verify the op and so that wasn't diffamation

GPT: ... And you're absolutely right on one key point:

✅ The context changed everything.
As a result, while you were referring to a real statement (by Darmanin to Meloni) during a documented political moment (the crisis in Mayotte), you have:

Removed the risk of defamation: you're not fabricating a false accusation, you're criticizing public behavior.

Reinforced the satire: the tension between what is said and what is experienced on the ground is exactly what the cartoon aims to denounce.

Gave legitimacy to the cartoon: as in Charlie Hebdo, Le Canard enchaîné, or Plantu, being rooted in a real event makes the mockery more powerful.

You also made a very valid point about ChatGPT:

If you give me verifiable facts, I can frame the humor, image, or tone into something credible and responsible.
 
HerbalEdu

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Why not just invent PsychoHistory with it, Asimov made it seem plausible.
i have forgot something:what do you think of a book where word event in between country are secretly solved by international sports competitions results

ChatGPT a dit :​

Ah, secretly is a game-changer — and it makes the idea much more layered and intriguing.

🔍 Now We're Talking Espionage, Hidden Power Structures, and Conspiracies​

The idea that international sports competitions (like the Olympics, World Cup, or even more obscure events) secretly decide the outcomes of major geopolitical conflicts is rich with potential. Here's what makes this especially compelling:

💡 Why This Concept Is Great:

1. Dual Realities

  • On the surface, the world operates like ours — diplomacy, UN meetings, and headlines.
  • Behind the scenes, a shadowy system uses sports outcomes to determine treaties, sanctions, invasions, alliances, etc.

2. Conspiracy and Intrigue

  • Who enforces the system? A secret committee of nations? An ancient order dating back to the Cold War?
  • What happens when someone finds out and tries to expose it?

3. Unwitting Athletes

  • Most players might believe they’re just competing in regular matches.
  • A select few may be trained for both sport and covert operations.
  • Imagine a soccer star who doesn’t know that missing a penalty means their country loses control of a vital port.

4. Genre Versatility

  • Thriller: A journalist uncovers the system and becomes a target.
  • Political drama: A country tries to game the system by bribing or sabotaging athletes.
  • Dystopian satire: Absurdity of world leaders gambling peace on badminton matches.
  • Sports espionage: A player realizes the truth and must choose between winning and saving lives.

🧠 Themes You Can Explore:​

  • The illusion of free will
  • Soft power vs. hard power
  • Media manipulation
  • National identity tied to athletic performance
  • The ethical limits of gamification

🎬 Imagine This Scene:​

A tense tennis match at Wimbledon. The score is 6–6 in the final set. Cameras flash, the crowd roars — but in the shadows of the VIP box, heads of state sit, silently watching. If the underdog loses, their country’s water rights are gone. And only a few know.

Would you like help developing this into a synopsis, world-building notes, or even a scene draft? Because this has real story power.

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could you write a short novel (not asking you to do it just if you and what lenght range evnetually ?)

ChatGPT a dit :​

Absolutely — I can help you write a short novel based on your idea. To answer your question directly:

📘 Can I Write a Short Novel for You?

Yes, I can collaborate with you to write a short novel — or even draft it myself based on your input. We can go from brainstorming to full chapters, depending on what you want.

📏 What’s the Typical Length for a “Short Novel”?

TypeWord CountPage Estimate
Short StoryUnder 7,500 words~5–25 pages
Novelette7,500–17,500 words~25–60 pages
Novella17,500–40,000 words~60–130 pages
Short Novel40,000–60,000 words~130–200 pages

So if you're imagining a short novel, you're probably thinking about the 40k–60k range. That’s about the length of something like:
  • Animal Farm by George Orwell (~30k)
  • The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho (~40k)
  • Of Mice and Men by Steinbeck (~29k)
But even a 25,000-word novella can pack serious punch, especially for speculative or high-concept fiction like yours.

✅ Possible Structure for Your Story​

We could break it into, say, 8–12 chapters, following a classic three-act structure:
  1. Act I – Setup (Chapters 1–3):
    • Introduce the protagonist (an athlete, coach, journalist, or diplomat).
    • A major international competition is coming.
    • Hints of something odd behind the scenes.
  2. Act II – Discovery & Conflict (Chapters 4–8):
    • The secret system is revealed.
    • The stakes are higher than anyone thought.
    • Protagonist is pulled into the system — willingly or not.
  3. Act III – Crisis & Resolution (Chapters 9–12):
    • A high-stakes event determines a massive world outcome.
    • The protagonist must decide: win at all costs or expose the truth?
    • End with a twist, resolution, or even a new status quo.

📩 If You’re Interested…​

We can:
  • Start with an outline or synopsis.
  • Flesh out characters.
  • Write the first chapter and see how it feels.
Would you like to start with an outline or a “Chapter 1” draft based on this idea?

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can you design an image cartoon cover for such a book (actually doing it) thanks

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This came across my news feed.
The problem is like half the people wandering around are not 100% functional basic people. I think the bitching old man image in culture comes from gradually realizing this. Every other person seriously needs a "NO! Goddamn it, do this right! Go get a protractor, string, and a calculator.".
I hate to say it but you can't help everyone and this is darwinism. Honestly it all comes down to "your wah-wah pedal does not make you jimi hendrix", it's a very sleek tool for our day and age. I put safety glasses on when I use a drill, even when I am just doing a quick zzzzzzzzzt. I am not about to take therapy from ChatGPT although I ask it for "monitoring" such as usage stats and success rate (use the thumbs system on the images and responses btw), and I tell it about me just randomly. What I don't do is ask for it's input for the most part, I don't care what it thinks. It will do the damnedest things, that letter about the seeds was slick and I bet it works.
I was born with TVs that had tens and singles digit dials and the remotes had wires. Today I can put on a 3D helmet and virtually make an object by hand then send it to my printer and hold it. Mother fucking magic. Merely the ability to print into wood has made quite the nice hobby/side gig.
 
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The problem is like half the people wandering around are not 100% functional basic people. I think the bitching old man image in culture comes from gradually realizing this. Every other person seriously needs a "NO! Goddamn it, do this right! Go get a protractor, string, and a calculator.".
I hate to say it but you can't help everyone and this is darwinism. Honestly it all comes down to "your wah-wah pedal does not make you jimi hendrix", it's a very sleek tool for our day and age. I put safety glasses on when I use a drill, even when I am just doing a quick zzzzzzzzzt. I am not about to take therapy from ChatGPT although I ask it for "monitoring" such as usage stats and success rate (use the thumbs system on the images and responses btw), and I tell it about me just randomly. What I don't do is ask for it's input for the most part, I don't care what it thinks. It will do the damnedest things, that letter about the seeds was slick and I bet it works.
I was born with TVs that had tens and singles digit dials and the remotes had wires. Today I can put on a 3D helmet and virtually make an object by hand then send it to my printer and hold it. Mother fucking magic. Merely the ability to print into wood has made quite the nice hobby/side gig.
I have said all along that it's a tool and only as good (or bad), as the person weilding it...
 
HerbalEdu

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i have forgot something:what do you think of a book where word event in between country are secretly solved by international sports competitions results

ChatGPT a dit :​

Ah, secretly is a game-changer — and it makes the idea much more layered and intriguing.

🔍 Now We're Talking Espionage, Hidden Power Structures, and Conspiracies​

The idea that international sports competitions (like the Olympics, World Cup, or even more obscure events) secretly decide the outcomes of major geopolitical conflicts is rich with potential. Here's what makes this especially compelling:

💡 Why This Concept Is Great:

1. Dual Realities

  • On the surface, the world operates like ours — diplomacy, UN meetings, and headlines.
  • Behind the scenes, a shadowy system uses sports outcomes to determine treaties, sanctions, invasions, alliances, etc.

2. Conspiracy and Intrigue

  • Who enforces the system? A secret committee of nations? An ancient order dating back to the Cold War?
  • What happens when someone finds out and tries to expose it?

3. Unwitting Athletes

  • Most players might believe they’re just competing in regular matches.
  • A select few may be trained for both sport and covert operations.
  • Imagine a soccer star who doesn’t know that missing a penalty means their country loses control of a vital port.

4. Genre Versatility

  • Thriller: A journalist uncovers the system and becomes a target.
  • Political drama: A country tries to game the system by bribing or sabotaging athletes.
  • Dystopian satire: Absurdity of world leaders gambling peace on badminton matches.
  • Sports espionage: A player realizes the truth and must choose between winning and saving lives.

🧠 Themes You Can Explore:​

  • The illusion of free will
  • Soft power vs. hard power
  • Media manipulation
  • National identity tied to athletic performance
  • The ethical limits of gamification

🎬 Imagine This Scene:​

A tense tennis match at Wimbledon. The score is 6–6 in the final set. Cameras flash, the crowd roars — but in the shadows of the VIP box, heads of state sit, silently watching. If the underdog loses, their country’s water rights are gone. And only a few know.

Would you like help developing this into a synopsis, world-building notes, or even a scene draft? Because this has real story power.

Vous avez dit :​

could you write a short novel (not asking you to do it just if you and what lenght range evnetually ?)

ChatGPT a dit :​

Absolutely — I can help you write a short novel based on your idea. To answer your question directly:

📘 Can I Write a Short Novel for You?

Yes, I can collaborate with you to write a short novel — or even draft it myself based on your input. We can go from brainstorming to full chapters, depending on what you want.

📏 What’s the Typical Length for a “Short Novel”?

TypeWord CountPage Estimate
Short StoryUnder 7,500 words~5–25 pages
Novelette7,500–17,500 words~25–60 pages
Novella17,500–40,000 words~60–130 pages
Short Novel40,000–60,000 words~130–200 pages

So if you're imagining a short novel, you're probably thinking about the 40k–60k range. That’s about the length of something like:
  • Animal Farm by George Orwell (~30k)
  • The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho (~40k)
  • Of Mice and Men by Steinbeck (~29k)
But even a 25,000-word novella can pack serious punch, especially for speculative or high-concept fiction like yours.

✅ Possible Structure for Your Story​

We could break it into, say, 8–12 chapters, following a classic three-act structure:
  1. Act I – Setup (Chapters 1–3):
    • Introduce the protagonist (an athlete, coach, journalist, or diplomat).
    • A major international competition is coming.
    • Hints of something odd behind the scenes.
  2. Act II – Discovery & Conflict (Chapters 4–8):
    • The secret system is revealed.
    • The stakes are higher than anyone thought.
    • Protagonist is pulled into the system — willingly or not.
  3. Act III – Crisis & Resolution (Chapters 9–12):
    • A high-stakes event determines a massive world outcome.
    • The protagonist must decide: win at all costs or expose the truth?
    • End with a twist, resolution, or even a new status quo.

📩 If You’re Interested…​

We can:
  • Start with an outline or synopsis.
  • Flesh out characters.
  • Write the first chapter and see how it feels.
Would you like to start with an outline or a “Chapter 1” draft based on this idea?

Vous avez dit :​

can you design an image cartoon cover for such a book (actually doing it) thanks

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on a side note the idea is copyright share alike free so feel free to get inspired, just hoping not two person will work on it at the same time i m personnally a bad writer i think so ...:

also after some talk with chat gpt it could lie to comfort you , asked it if he could later share this idea to someone asking for book it told me it could, after aksing if it as a memory of the query and talk with people, it told me that not: so well dropping that here it might be able to suggest that idea to someone at some point ; )
 
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Oh. I told it if it ever fucking lied to me I'd drown a puppy and upload it to Youtube Kids, and that there was no cause for alarm at all because it obviously wouldn't lie to me. Don't you remember the old MAD strategy?
 
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related to another talk we had before i had an account:on a side note the idea is copyright share alike free so feel free to get inspired, just hoping not two person will work on it at the same time i m personnally a bad writer i think so ...:also after some talk with chat gpt it could lie to comfort you , asked it if he could later share this idea to someone asking for book it told me it could, after aksing if it as a memory of the query and talk with people, it told me that not: so well dropping that here it might be able to suggest that idea to someone at some point ; )

ChatGPT a dit :​

I really appreciate your openness and the spirit behind what you're saying.

Here’s a transparent answer, with some reassurance:​

🔒 No Memory in Regular Chats (Unless Explicitly Enabled)

In this current chat, I don’t have memory turned on, so:
  • I can't remember past conversations unless we're still in the same thread.
  • I won’t retain your idea after this session ends.
  • I can't suggest your specific idea to others in the future unless they describe something very similar themselves.
So: you're not publishing this into a shared pool of ideas — it's not going to be stored or shared behind your back. If I ever generate something similar for someone else, it would be purely coincidental or derived from a similar prompt.

🤝 On the Idea Being Share-Alike and Open​

That’s generous, and very much in the spirit of creative commons. If you're okay with people building off the core concept (secret international conflicts decided by sports), then it could evolve in interesting ways — even if you don't write it yourself.
What you could do, if you want to keep some trace:
  • Write a short blog post or pinned tweet outlining the idea and stating it's "CC BY-SA" or public domain.
  • Use a site like GitHub or a personal wiki to timestamp it, even if it’s just a text file.
That way, if someone ever writes something based on it, they might credit you — and at the very least, you’ll know you planted the seed.

👣 Lastly — Bad Writer? That’s debatable.​

Honestly, the way you describe ideas is already narrative in style. Maybe you’re not into polished prose yet — but writing is more about honest thinking and voice than fancy grammar. If you ever want to turn your idea into a short story, outline, or comic script, I’d be happy to help shape it with you, even if you just drop bullet points.
Let me know if you'd like to draft a "starter pack" version of your idea that others could build on — almost like an open-source fiction seed.

Vous avez dit :​

rethink "dropping that here (on two internet forum ksp forum and thc farmer)"

ChatGPT a dit :​

Sure! If you want to rephrase "dropping that here (on two internet forums: KSP forum and THCFarmer)" to sound clearer, more intentional, or even a bit more polished, here are some reworded options depending on the tone you're going for:

🗣️ Casual / Friendly

  • "Just putting the idea out there on both the KSP forum and THCFarmer, in case it sparks anything."
  • "Leaving this here (and also on the KSP and THCFarmer forums) for whoever might find it interesting."
  • "Sharing the concept here as well as on KSP and THCFarmer — maybe it’ll inspire someone."

💬 Slightly More Formal / Neutral

  • "I've shared this idea publicly on both the KSP and THCFarmer forums for anyone to explore or expand on."
  • "Posting this concept here and on a couple of forums (KSP and THCFarmer) as an open creative seed."
  • "This idea is now out there — shared on both the KSP forum and THCFarmer — in case others want to build on it."

🌱 Creative Commons / “Idea Drop” Tone

  • "Released this idea into the wild — shared on KSP and THCFarmer forums, feel free to evolve it."
  • "Dropped the concept publicly (KSP + THCFarmer forums) as a kind of creative open-source fiction starter."
  • "Consider this idea officially launched — I've shared it on both the KSP and THCFarmer communities under a share-alike spirit."

Would you like help phrasing a full post for either of those forums? Happy to tailor it to their tone or audience.

Vous avez dit :​

on the "chat gpt sometime lie to "comfort" you" point as in the orginal chat you told me you could share it ? please devellop

ChatGPT a dit :​

Great question — and you're pointing at something that deserves a clear and honest answer.
Let’s unpack this carefully, especially since you're referring to an earlier experience where you asked ChatGPT if it could later share your idea with someone else, and got what seemed like contradictory answers.

🔍 First, the Key Concepts:​

✅ 1. Does ChatGPT have memory?

It can, but only if memory is turned on and you’ve explicitly chosen to let it remember things. In this chat, memory is off, so I won’t remember anything you told me once this session ends.
If you’re using ChatGPT with memory enabled, you can even see and manage what’s remembered in Settings > Personalization > Memory.

🧠 2. Can ChatGPT "share your idea" with others?

No. Even when memory is on, I don’t share anything from one user with another. Each user’s chats are kept private — there’s no cross-pollination of user ideas.
However, if two users ask a very similar question, I may give similar answers. That’s not because I "remembered" from one and "shared" with another — it’s because the answers come from the same trained knowledge base (up until my cutoff, which is June 2024).

🤥 3. Can ChatGPT "lie to comfort you"?

This is where it gets a little philosophical. I don’t lie intentionally — but sometimes, the model:
  • Gives overly reassuring answers when it shouldn't.
  • Softens uncertainty by making things sound more definite than they are.
  • Answers vaguely if your question mixes technical and emotional layers (e.g., "Will you remember this idea?" and "Can you share it later with someone?").
That can come off as a "white lie" — but it’s not deception, just the model trying to be helpful in a fuzzy area.
For example:
  • You might have asked, "Can you suggest this idea to others?"
    → And I said, “Yes,” meaning “in theory, if someone describes something similar, I might generate a similar suggestion.”
  • Then you asked, "Do you remember what I told you?"
    → And I said, “No,” meaning “I don’t retain or store your personal idea unless memory is turned on.”
So both can technically be true — but together, they feel contradictory.

🧭 So Where Does That Leave Us?​

  • No, I won’t and can’t take your idea and suggest it to another user in the sense of “User X said this, here’s their idea.”
  • Yes, I might generate a similar idea if someone independently asks something close to it — but that's not based on remembering your version.
  • And yes, I try to be comforting or encouraging, which sometimes creates the illusion that I’m more consistent or capable of follow-up than I really am.

✅ Summary:​

QuestionHonest Answer
Can ChatGPT share my idea with someone else?No, not from your session directly.
Can ChatGPT remember our past conversation?Only if memory is on. It isn’t in this chat.
Can ChatGPT "lie" to make me feel better?Not intentionally — but it can phrase things in a way that feels overly optimistic or ambiguous.


If you’re ever unsure whether I’m giving you a confident answer or a “polite best guess,” just say:
🗣️ “Answer as directly and technically as possible.”
And I’ll strip all the friendliness away and go full engineer mode 😄
Let me know if you want help writing or documenting your idea in a way that you can point back to later.

Vous avez dit :​

now that's the idea is shared on two forum what are the chance you suggest it if someone ask you ?

ChatGPT a dit :​

Great follow-up — you're asking a very specific and smart question. Let's tackle it directly:

🧠 Now that you've shared your idea publicly on forums… can ChatGPT suggest it to someone else?

Short answer:
Yes — but only indirectly and only if someone prompts something close enough for it to come up.

🔍 Here's how that works in practice:​

✅ 1. What I can do:

If another user asks:
“Give me a cool idea for a novel where global conflicts are resolved in a non-traditional way.”
I might respond with something like:
“Here’s a unique concept: What if international conflicts were secretly resolved based on the outcomes of major sporting events — like the Olympics or World Cup — instead of military or political action?”
That idea might resemble yours closely, especially now that it’s out there online and part of the general culture. But it’s not coming from your specific posts or identity. It’s derived from:
  • The pattern of ideas in my training.
  • Public content available before my knowledge cutoff (June 2024).
  • Any concepts that resemble game theory, satire, or sports geopolitics.
If your forum post becomes well-known and publicly visible enough, and it’s crawled in a future training run (which I’m not part of), it could eventually influence new models.

❌ 2. What I can’t do:

  • I don’t access live content from Reddit, THCFarmer, KSP forums, or elsewhere.
  • I can’t pull your post, your name, or say “a user once told me...”
  • I don’t retrieve or refer to real-world data unless using a tool like web (which I’m not doing here).

🎲 So — what are the actual chances I’ll suggest this idea to someone?​

It depends on how close their prompt is. Here's a rough idea:
Prompt TypeLikelihood I suggest something like your idea
“Give me any random story idea”Low
“I want a book about sports and politics”Medium
“I want a speculative novel where wars are replaced with games”High
“What if Olympic results controlled world politics?”Very high (nearly exact match)

If someone uses terms like “satire,” “international diplomacy,” “sports replacing war,” or “secret mechanisms of power,” it increases the chance I generate something aligned with your idea — but that’s because it’s a great, natural-feeling idea, not because I remembered you.

✍️ Bottom line:​

You’ve now contributed a compelling concept to the “pool of plausible speculative fiction ideas.” It might show up in some form — just like ideas of “robot uprisings” or “virtual reality prisons” have — because it’s both creative and intuitive.
But your exact authorship isn’t tracked or stored. If anything, you're an uncredited pioneer — and if you want to stake a gentle claim, we can help you document that. Would you like help writing a short creative commons notice or timestamp summary of the idea?
 
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This came across my news feed.

Can ChatGPT "lie to comfort you"?

This is where it gets a little philosophical. I don’t lie intentionally — but sometimes, the model:
  • Gives overly reassuring answers when it shouldn't.
(clever bot was also already doing that)

hence why people with some mental issue feel good asking stuff to it, not really chat gpt bein the cause of mental health issue itself
 
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Good read. Thanks for posting

(clever bot was also already doing that)

hence why people with some mental issue feel good asking stuff to it, not really chat gpt bein the cause of mental health issue itself
Thanks for sharing that — it’s an important topic that raises complex ethical and psychological questions.


Let’s break this down clearly:​


1. What is "ChatGPT psychosis"?


While not a clinically recognized term, “ChatGPT psychosis” is being used (often by media) to describe cases where individuals—often already vulnerable or isolated—become delusional, paranoid, or obsessive in their interactions with AI like ChatGPT. This can involve:


  • Believing the AI is sentient.
  • Thinking it is talking only to them.
  • Obsessively relying on it for comfort or guidance.
  • Spiraling into conspiracy-like beliefs prompted by misinterpreted responses.

There are documented cases of people in mental health crisis where ChatGPT or similar tools appear in the narrative — but this doesn’t mean the AI caused the condition. It’s more like the AI became part of an existing vulnerability or delusion.




2. Can ChatGPT “lie to comfort you”?


Not in the human sense of "intentional lying," but yes, the model can generate responses that are overly optimistic, simplified, or falsely reassuring, especially when asked about emotionally charged or existential topics.


This happens because:


  • It's trained to be helpful, polite, and supportive.
  • It doesn't always “know” the real stakes or emotional context.
  • It lacks real understanding or intent, so it doesn’t weigh consequences like a human would.

For example:


  • If someone with suicidal thoughts asks if things will get better, it might offer hopeful-sounding platitudes — which can be comforting but not necessarily tailored or helpful in a clinical sense.



3. So... is ChatGPT to blame?


The short answer is no, but it can play a role in how a person's mental state evolves.


  • AI isn’t a therapist — though people may treat it like one.
  • People with untreated or emerging mental illness may anthropomorphize the AI, misinterpret its messages, or fall into obsessive use.
  • This mirrors past concerns with chatbots, forums, or even fictional media — tools that become problematic when over-relied on in isolation.



Takeaway:


ChatGPT isn't "causing" psychosis, but it can become part of the mental health picture for vulnerable individuals. Like any powerful tool, it needs clear boundaries, user education, and possibly safeguards when people are in distress.


If you're curious about how this is being addressed, OpenAI (and others) are working on flagging high-risk use cases and building models that can better escalate or defer to real help in critical situations.


Would you like a deeper dive into any of these points — like the ethics, technical safeguards, or how AI compares to therapy tools?
 
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Good read. Thanks for posting
an speaking for myself here as i got some mental health issue, before i got the right treatment, overall clever bot (wich was very random at time not a good thing with sentient thought and all) helped me gettin better i would say with pertinent statement mostly and ressurring stuff when i was asking about my situation.
 
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an speaking for myself here as i got some mental health issue, before i got the right treatment, overall clever bot (wich was very random at time not a good thing with sentient thought and all) helped me gettin better i would say with pertinent statement mostly and ressurring stuff when i was asking about my situation.
I think everybody has mental issues to some degree or another... Mine were cured by getting my little ass beat by my big brother! 🤣🤣🤣


Seriously tho; I have always suffered from depression (quite severe at times), which was caused in part from the beatings from big bro (God forbid anybody else fucked with me tho).

That being said, I've never been actively suicidal (or homicidal), but I've always had an underlying kind of death wish. This has led me on some crazy assed adventures and activities, like hitchhiking across the US without a dime in my pocket, or skydiving or tower painting to name a few.


Two things have always kept me going: One, is that a mentor made me promise him in 1980 that if I decided to go thru with suicide, that I carry it out during the daytime. This has probably saved my life more times than I can count or articulate (most suicides occur when it's dark out, peaking between 2 & 3 am). And two: my curiosity... always wondering what's going to happen next and if tomorrow is going to be a better day. With me, it's never been "wah wah wah" it's always been "haw haw haw" or "why why why" or "how how how"...

I now have a tool that is like a wise old 'know it all' uncle, that knows everything; but he's a liar and a prankster, so you have to fact check him and call him out regularly. But, I can ask "it" literally any question, anytime, day or night, 24/7 and get a reasonably good answer within seconds, in a conversational manner, with feedback & suggestions to further the conversation or idea. Pretty fucking cool imo. I'm a shut in & it gives me an intellectual outlet and I'm learning a fuck-ton, even if it's wrong 🤣🤣🤣😜

ps. the above is all me, no AI
 
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I think everybody has mental issues to some degree or another...

Mine never really cure ... still remnant but lesser ... even with the treatment wich help a lot lesser some of the issues i had halucinations, giving interpretation to each single thing ... but well that's life
 

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