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Clones Vs. Seeds In Reference To Yield

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Clones Vs. Seeds In Reference To Yield

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I'm new still to all this growing stuff so I have a few basic questions and here's one of them.

I always read articles and threads concerning seeds and germination techniques and I always wonder why. Why, unless you're in the clone business, would you ever decide to waste all that time? It's so much easier to get a 5 inch clone and get to business.

Then I thought about it and there were two things that stuck out to me.

I assume that for one seeds, if all else is equal most produce a better yield? Considering that most, but not all, clones have atlernating nodes with just one limb per node. It seems likely to me that since seeds have double the nodes they should have double the yield?

I also considered topping or other similar methods of training and controlling plant growth. I'm sure that working with plants from seeds would also make that process a lot more positive?

Just a noob question. I'm sure I could have found the answer on the net. I'm sure I might have been able to assume. But why else be a part of a Cannabis Community but to learn and grow together from the wealth of knowledge that exists in the people here.
 
#2
Seeds contain genetic potential to grow a plant with a range of phenotype.
Grow any pack of seeds, and some will be better than others in terms of vigor, structure, and all the qualities that make for a nice flower.
The narrower the variability of characteristics, the more stable the strain.

The problem growing from clones is availability and the likelihood of importing pests.
Not to mention the quality of the mother.

So it is up to you to choose.
I don't believe yield is a part of the equation.
 
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I don't believe yield is a part of the equation.
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I'm going to do some research because o have a hard time believing this.

I never considered where someone might live as a reason too. I'm in the bay area ca, and I can get most any clone I want for decent prices, 6 to 12 bucks per. If someone lives in the not so acceptable parts of the United States in terms of legalization seeds might be the only way.
 
#4
The nodes becoming staggered is the clone was taken from a mature mother, all seeds will do this once they have matured, seed vs clone for yield I don't think there will be much, if any difference as it comes down to how you grow, veg time, groom conditions, if u grow from seed but the environment is crap the yield will suffer as it will with clones, I use clones, have for years and never see a drop in yield and they will save you a little time from crop to crop as when mine is dry I have clones ready to go again
 
#5
clones are not faster if you ask me clones take longer once you clone a plant that clone can take 5-7 days bofore its roots where as most seeds germinate within 24 hours and after 5 days will have enough root to go in the main system for me anyway so you save time in my case
 
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Bigjuice said:
clones are not faster if you ask me clones take longer once you clone a plant that clone can take 5-7 days bofore its roots where as most seeds germinate within 24 hours and after 5 days will have enough root to go in the main system for me anyway so you save time in my case
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Clones can be faster if u have them rooted b4 ur last cropis finished is what I mean I'm talking a week or two that's all
 
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From seed, I've had some strains that took 6 weeks to show sex with most taking around 4 weeks. In that time frame, with clones, I go from this to ready to flower.
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First dixie cup was rooted fully in 8 days, from there they go into the 5"x5" pot for 10 days then into the 9 liter pots for another 10 days. Then to flower from there. So that's 28 days from a cut to ready to flower.
 
#8
I would be interested in seeing a picture of a clone grown as full and big as possible. So many farmers want to keep their clones small, flower asap. Anyone?
 
#9
You can grow to any size with time. If huge is what you want that can be done with either easily. Seeds offer genetic difference and if you're buying a clone then you are going based on that breeder preference and not having the chance to choose. If you trust the breeder then the hard work is done
 
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I thought a seed will send down a tap root whereas the clone cannot do this...
So seed plants can grow larger than clones right? That's what I thought but of course I am most likely wrong....
So if a Bigger plant will produce more flowers then the seed plant should produce more than the clone..... right? No?
 
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Dunge said:
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The tap root holds it all down. Germinated seeds produce a tap root while clones produce what is known as a fiberous root system, when taken from a donor plant. A large tap root promotes strong vegetative growth, creating a stable plant. Larger plants have relatively larger xylem and phloem size, allowing for more nutrient and water transportation to the leaves and buds during flowering, which will increase the harvest weight.
 
#16
Pheno hunt beans then crank out clones First reply nailed it
 
#17
Generally as said a 10 pack should be bought. If you end up with more than 3 variants you have a wild one.

It's good to know the characteristics of your strain/pheno so you know what kind of head space you need, nutes, and water amount they like.

Most guys do keep these clones. Clackamas coot has had the same mother plant for 33 years. I don't mean cuts. The same plant! Some land race from Afghanistan.

Once people get tired of a strain they usually make seed for storage. Colloidal silver or pollination.

Pollen is also stored.
 
#18
From what I have read, Seeds will produce the tap root which will cause a more stable plant that can produce a slightly larger yeild than clones, however, this doesn't apply to indoor gardens nearly as much as outdoor, since plants don't need a tap root when grown in a container. So I can see both arguements as being right....
 
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MidwestToker said:
From seed, I've had some strains that took 6 weeks to show sex with most taking around 4 weeks. In that time frame, with clones, I go from this to ready to flower.View attachment 745071
First dixie cup was rooted fully in 8 days, from there they go into the 5"x5" pot for 10 days then into the 9 liter pots for another 10 days. Then to flower from there. So that's 28 days from a cut to ready to flower.
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How do you get them that big in 30 days
 
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