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Can I use Honey as a cloning gel?
On the cloning subject and cuts healing. Heard some rather interesting information from a study with clones. Subject was what part of the plant to take the cut, trimming fan leaf's and number of fan leaf's. So the study was completed in controlled grow rooms and they found that it did not matter if you took the cut from the top or bottom of the plant. Second out come was that cutting the ends off the fan leaf's actually did more harm than good, due to damage created by cutting and the healing process. Last item was that the most success was created with 3 fan leaf's per clone.
What kind of study , its really hard to generalize these things or claim a difinitive method, some of your clones may be 4 inches, some 6 inches, more height will obviously come with more leaves, cutting right below a node and cutting the attached leaf at that point usually results in more robust root growth, in a crowded box, full leaf without trim will cause 2 negative issues, one they are heavy and if your cut is frail , the the added weight can be stressful,, if there are full leaves and they are laying on top of their neighbor they can cause excessive wet spots that can increase chances of fungus or bacterial growth.....
New growth on the tops of plants have softer stem than the lower shoots, in my experience , although they look better for cuts, sometimes they dont root as well as lower growth , axioms etc....
If you find clonex too expensive or if you are against chem/hormone grow products
Then go for the honey,, but guarantee clone x is a hundred times better in that( clone ) application.....
And dirtbag said hes made tens of thousands of clones, so probably any advice you get here is going to be so much better than " a study"
Like a study made by who ?
Also many strains , plants will clone easy effortlessly , others are difficult, thats a fact...
What kind of study , its really hard to generalize these things or claim a difinitive method, some of your clones may be 4 inches, some 6 inches, more height will obviously come with more leaves, cutting right below a node and cutting the attached leaf at that point usually results in more robust root growth, in a crowded box, full leaf without trim will cause 2 negative issues, one they are heavy and if your cut is frail , the the added weight can be stressful,, if there are full leaves and they are laying on top of their neighbor they can cause excessive wet spots that can increase chances of fungus or bacterial growth.....
New growth on the tops of plants have softer stem than the lower shoots, in my experience , although they look better for cuts, sometimes they dont root as well as lower growth , axioms etc....
If you find clonex too expensive or if you are against chem/hormone grow products
Then go for the honey,, but guarantee clone x is a hundred times better in that( clone ) application.....
And dirtbag said hes made tens of thousands of clones, so probably any advice you get here is going to be so much better than " a study"
Like a study made by who ?
Also many strains , plants will clone easy effortlessly , others are difficult, thats a fact...
Experiment on your own , your results will be much more valuable than a study......
That's no exaggeration, but it's also not that many in the grand scheme. Some of the guys I work(ed) with have taken hundreds of thousands of clones. One buddies LP does thousands of clones per week. There is a fairly standardized method we all use and it works very well. Most of us use rapid rooters, root riots or peat pucks, a couple guys still use rockwool although my limited experience using it has been mixed. I've honestly only ever used wool cubes to root in once and it was recently. I got 99% success rooting but it took way longer than it does in RR's. One guy i know uses an aerocloner but he doesnt have a very big setup.
Anyway, clipping the leaves has never caused me any issues and it is a must if you're packing the tray full. Just smart to use very sharp sterilized scissors. As for where to cut and number of leaves left on, I havent found much difference in rooting success based on what part of the plant I cut from. Though I usually will take mostly tops off my moms as I want the fattest stemmed clones to start with. Number of leaves is something I have never really considered, but i guess 3 is about right honestly. I leave all growing nodes but remove up to the top 2-3 leaves.
No worries, I was kind thinking along the same lines. But the guy had an advanced degree and the host of the podcast was really giving him shit because he basically works for Scott. I am probably going to try the full leaf on thing and 3 leaf's to see how it goes, but this is not ground breaking stuff. The old old school way, rockwool works great as long as you cut on an angle in the middle of the node and use a rooting hormone. I am way old school on the rooting hormone. Been using dip and grow for years.Cool , thanks for sharing , sorry if i came off a little skeptical , i just hear and read about so much bullshit and overnight experts,( not you, )i mean the avalanche of bad internet advice , so i immediatly doubt it and my thoughts lead to the idea that theres more value in being able to comminucate with first hand growers who share truthful knowdledge, even if its innacurate like mine might be at times
I thought it was you asking the honey question , sorry....The Clone sprays, dips and powders contain hormones to promote rut growth. Honey does not contain those hormones.
ya ok , never in my 13 years but hey what do i know . its just a weed , don't overthink itI have never personally utilized honey to promote rooting, but several sources say that it can be done. You can also utilize an aloe plant or willow tree tea as alternatives. Indolebutyric acid is a plant hormone that is present in weeping willow and stimulates rooting. Good luck with rooting your cuttings! Positive vibes...
~nugzz
Cannabis is not a weed. I feel like you were offended by my post somehow? I'm confused haha. Are you saying that you are 13 years old? That would make a lot of sense. Positive vibes...ya ok , never in my 13 years but hey what do i know . its just a weed , don't overthink it
no i'm a master grower who owns 120 k grow and dispensary so using honey is ridiculous as your profile picCannabis is not a weed. I feel like you were offended by my post somehow? I'm confused haha. Are you saying that you are 13 years old? That would make a lot of sense. Positive vibes...
~nugzz
Clean up your clone room Mr.120k grow. It looks like a goddamn hodgepodge in there. I’d never partake in your “weeds.” Thanks for letting me share.no i'm a master grower who owns 120 k grow and dispensary so using honey is ridiculous as your profile pic
no i'm a master grower who owns 120 k grow and dispensary so using honey is ridiculous as your profile pic
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