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Coco Path: 600w Hempy 4x4

Just got home a bit ago and it's at about 37% now lol. Damn your house is dry! Can't say that's a bad thing though. I was thinking about lowering the speed on my exhaust fan. Maybe that could give the tent a chance to build up some humidity. it will but it...
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Coco Path: 600w Hempy 4x4

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#124
That's true that will increase the heat for sure. Maybe if I increase the speed of the separate fan cooling my light that could counter some of the added heat from a slower exhaust, but I'm sure that can only get one so far.

I'm running without a filter on my intake right now just winging it. I used one on some past grows. I really had to make sure to clean it regularly as they get clogged real quick and reduce flow even more.
 
#125
Don't worry about rh%.
My home is around %15-30% everyday. The tent rh is between 1%-9%.

And recently I've been noticing that setting my tents target temps to around 90°+. Has sped up root and vegetative development

Here is a current shot of conditions in the main tent. Outdoor is tent conditions. Indoor is home air conditions
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My micro tent averages 85° with lights on With peaks of 100° when the furnace kicks on. Then during lights off I've seen it dip to °64 before the furnace kicked on.

But overall I've noticed as long as I keep them watered they flourish in the dry high heat.

I'm wondering why peeps speak against temps above 85°? As well as low humidity. Plants adapt very well.


Here's a current shot of The Beast in the 90° 1% Rh climate.
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Do you guys see any leaf taco-ing or signs of VPD stress? Nope :)


Those filters need frequent cleaning.
But once you see all the dust, dirt, and hair on your filter. You can only imagine what that would look like stuck all over your live buds trichomes. Making your final flowers taste bad. It also removes mold spores, pollen, pests etc. Worth every penny in my opinion.
 
#126
rmoltis said:
Don't worry about rh%.
My home is around %15-30% everyday. The tent rh is between 1%-9%.

And recently I've been noticing that setting my tents target temps to around 90°+. Has sped up root and vegetative development

Here is a current shot of conditions in the main tent. Outdoor is tent conditions. Indoor is home air conditions
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My micro tent averages 85° with lights on With peaks of 100° when the furnace kicks on. Then during lights off I've seen it dip to °64 before the furnace kicked on.

But overall I've noticed as long as I keep them watered they flourish in the dry high heat.

I'm wondering why peeps speak against temps above 85°? As well as low humidity. Plants adapt very well.


Here's a current shot of The Beast in the 90° 1% Rh climate.
View attachment 657756

Do you guys see any leaf taco-ing or signs of VPD stress? Nope :)


Those filters need frequent cleaning.
But once you see all the dust, dirt, and hair on your filter. You can only imagine what that would look like stuck all over your live buds trichomes. Making your final flowers taste bad. It also removes mold spores, pollen, pests etc. Worth every penny in my opinion.
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It's not about adapting big o... I know they will grow in higher heat and lower rh... But I'm trying to perfect the environment. That's big part of the fun to me..
I want 79 and 70% rh. Dropping 2% every week thru flower...
 
#127
EventHorizan said:
It's not about adapting big o... I know they will grow in higher heat and lower rh... But I'm trying to perfect the environment. That's big part of the fun to me..
I want 79 and 70% rh. Dropping 2% every week thru flower...
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I'm running soil so the lower rh% helps my soil dry out more quickly.

It allows me to transplant sooner into pots slightly bigger than necessary.

I also believe the higher transpiration rate of the plants encourage a larger root system. To adequately supply the plant with the amount of water it needs.

So during the dry cycles the plants roots grow quite aggressively.

I've noticed also the plants like growing larger trunks/stems/branches to deliver all that extra water.


A lot could be said about what we consider "the ideal environment".

One could say the ideal environment is what gives you best what your looking for.

When I say adapt.
I mean that every animal/plant born into their new world. They develop within what their genetic code allows. To adapt to that world/environmemt/climate.

And as they mature in that environment it becomes their "ideal environmental parameters".

You see what I'm getting at?

Over time the "ideal parameters" in nature even change. Then the plants and animals are forced to adapt over time to flourish in their new habitat.
It then becoming their new "ideal parameters"


So basically find the sweet spot of your home/grow space. And what the temp/humidity it tends to easily stabilize at without big extra electricity inputs.

And let your plants grow into it.

Just make sure you find the upper & lower limit the plants can handle in your environment as to not allow those extreme conditions that would hurt the plants. Then you'll be golden.
 
#128
The higher the temp the more fluffy/airy the final product will be, it grows faster at higher temp and slower at lower temps. Having a cool constant 75f temp for flower gives you denser nugs.
 
#129
rmoltis said:
I'm running soil so the lower rh% helps my soil dry out more quickly.

It allows me to transplant sooner into pots slightly bigger than necessary.

I also believe the higher transpiration rate of the plants encourage a larger root system. To adequately supply the plant with the amount of water it needs.

So during the dry cycles the plants roots grow quite aggressively.

I've noticed also the plants like growing larger trunks/stems/branches to deliver all that extra water.


A lot could be said about what we consider "the ideal environment".

One could say the ideal environment is what gives you best what your looking for.

When I say adapt.
I mean that every animal/plant born into their new world. They develop within what their genetic code allows. To adapt to that world/environmemt/climate.

And as they mature in that environment it becomes their "ideal environmental parameters".

You see what I'm getting at?

Over time the "ideal parameters" in nature even change. Then the plants and animals are forced to adapt over time to flourish in their new habitat.
It then becoming their new "ideal parameters"


So basically find the sweet spot of your home/grow space. And what the temp/humidity it tends to easily stabilize at without big extra electricity inputs.

And let your plants grow into it.

Just make sure you find the upper & lower limit the plants can handle in your environment as to not allow those extreme conditions that would hurt the plants. Then you'll be golden.
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Ahhhhhhh... Soil... I got you. I understand how that really contributes to the wet/dry cycle soil growers try to achieve..
In my situation, I just try to keep the leaf in a zone that it can cool itself and allow good transperation(sp)? And co2 uptake. And I also believe that when you move from one extreme to another with rh, you set up chance for mold...
But in all fairness that's just imo...
 
#130
Very inserting concerning different temps/rh. hahahahaha 1% thats great! The beast doesn't give a crap about environment you could probably throw her up at the north pole! Love that training buddy.

I don't plant on runnning co2 but I hear it really works well when you have higher temps.
 
#131
justiceman said:
Very inserting concerning different temps/rh. hahahahaha 1% thats great! The beast doesn't give a crap about environment you could probably throw her up at the north pole! Love that training buddy.

I don't plant on runnning co2 but I hear it really works well when you have higher temps.
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I would love to run co2, but I can't with my setup. It would just get sucked out with my exhaust.
 
#132
rmoltis said:
Don't worry about rh%.
My home is around %15-30% everyday. The tent rh is between 1%-9%.

And recently I've been noticing that setting my tents target temps to around 90°+. Has sped up root and vegetative development

But overall I've noticed as long as I keep them watered they flourish in the dry high heat.

I'm wondering why peeps speak against temps above 85°? As well as low humidity. Plants adapt very well.


Here's a current shot of The Beast in the 90° 1% Rh climate.
View attachment 657756

Do you guys see any leaf taco-ing or signs of VPD stress? Nope :)
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My lower tent chamber I put my temp /rh Guage in today for 10 minutes.
Got a reading of 95° and the same 1%Rh reading (which I think is anything under 9rh%)
20170106 140735

The seedlings and clones also do well in the high temp low rh%.

The clone in the back was just trained some more b4 picture so it's a little wierd.

And I have 1 runt/mutant out of the 4 seedlings there.
 
#134
Temps are nice and steady now. It just rained earlier so RH is up. Sittin at 76F with 51% humidity. The plants seemed to have adapted to the 600w MH nicely.

Deep Purple(feminized)(just got a stronger feed at .8EC)
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Pure Afghan(no sex yet)(finally the sensitive one seems to be pulling away from its problems after I gave it a flush and a few feedings diluted to .2EC lower than the rest of the pack. Showing less leave curl and more perk)
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Deadhead OG(confirmed female)(heavy drinker. Gets feed about 2-3x a day at .8EC and probably could take more. I want to transplant her, but I'd like to find the 4 strongest to complete my 4 plant 2gal run so I'm keeping her in the solo to kind of slow the progress)
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Chocolate Hashberry(female clones)(They are just cruising adjusting to the transplant. I saw a few roots pop out the bottom of most of the cups so they should start gaining momentum soon.)
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#135
DrMcSkunkins said:
My rh rarely ever goes above 25% in this dust bowl.
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And I kept thinking wtf... now I know I'm not the only one.. I even got a huey but with lights on its no good.
I need to just vent the lights but I like the open reflectors.. more light!
 
#136
DrMcSkunkins said:
The higher the temp the more fluffy/airy the final product will be, it grows faster at higher temp and slower at lower temps. Having a cool constant 75f temp for flower gives you denser nugs.
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I used to have the same heat issues with HPS, and MH here in Colorado with very little RH. Since going to LED my canopy temps are only in the low 70's with a floor temp in the high 60's. This has really helped promote happier and more healthy plants with very little humidity. I think trying to add humidity only creates more problems like mold issues. These plants will adapt to almost any growing condition!:)
 
#137
Orcaman said:
I used to have the same heat issues with HPS, and MH here in Colorado with very little RH. Since going to LED my canopy temps are only in the low 70's with a floor temp in the high 60's. This has really helped promote happier and more healthy plants with very little humidity. I think trying to add humidity only creates more problems like mold issues. These plants will adapt to almost any growing condition!:)
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I agree... I think the problem occurs when rh is raised but ambient Temps are high. And the changing from high rh to low rh rapidly is bad too. I'm beginning to think if I can't control getting a higher rh with lights on then it kinda defeats the purpose as if I understand correctly, what we are really trying to control is the opening of the stomatitis and allowing normal cooling of the leaf.. Am I on the right track..
 
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