Converting to grow trees, need tips

Medusa · Apr 1, 2013

Hi ttystikk wondering where that thread is of wavegems your talking about?

ttystikk · Apr 1, 2013

ewok-rdwc-wg This should be a link to wavegem's rdwc.

GOOD LORD, WHAT A PAIN IN THE ASS TRYING TO COPY N PASTE USING A SMART PHONE IN THIS DAMN WEBSITE! It insists on placing the target anywhere BUT where I want it.

Medusa · Apr 2, 2013

Sorry to be a pain in the ass T, but thank you !!!!!

ttystikk · Apr 2, 2013

Medusa said:
Sorry to be a pain in the ass T, but thank you !!!!!

Android OS isn't compatible with everything just yet!

Capulator · Apr 2, 2013

ttystikk said:
Android OS isn't compatible with everything just yet!

plants don't generally acclimate to being moved FWIW.

I think you should not move them. just set the cage up around them and that's it.

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2013

Um, would anybody be mad if I messed with y'all's head for a minute? I've been thinking about and mocking up the tree grow as I've described above, but I just couldn't get some nagging issues off my mind; all these lights and there will still be big dark spots on the tree canopy. If I rotate it, I risk damage. The ventilation is also an issue, as Jalisco Kid has pointed out. I'm already up to 5 bare bulbs and I can see that's all the capacity my cooler has. I just... Didn't like it. It bothered my engineering sensibilities.

So then Cap n Jalisco start talking about hedges, which made me think about vertical canopies. I saw that you can light either side of a hedge, or both. I saw how easy it is to train and maintain, since it's already standing up in front of you! And, then my mind went back to all that wasted wattage going everywhere but on a tree... and bam. Inspiration struck-

NEW THREAD! This tree discussion can and should continue here, what I have in mind is the subject of the new thread, still in the trees forum.

One Flip · Apr 6, 2013

ttystikk, it's been 32 minutes and I'm still waiting to see what you have in mind ;)

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2013

One Flip said:
ttystikk, it's been 32 minutes and I'm still waiting to see what you have in mind ;)

Nothing like adoring fans to give me motivation, lol

One Flip · Apr 6, 2013

I remember you referencing McGuyver at one time so I'm sure it will be epic!

Like.

Hang one bulb vertical in center of room over a 4x4 tray. Build a 4 wall vertIcal hedge around tray & bulb.

Line more 4x4 trays around the outer edge of the vertical square. Hang a vert lamp over each tray & build 4 more vertical hedge walls.

Repeat steps 1 & 2 until you reach exterior walls

Zip tie your feet to your light mover, hang upside down to defoliate & maintain plants :)

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2013

One Flip said:
I remember you referencing McGuyver at one time so I'm sure it will be epic!

Like.

Hang one bulb vertical in center of room over a 4x4 tray. Build a 4 wall vertIcal hedge around tray & bulb.

Line more 4x4 trays around the outer edge of the vertical square. Hang a vert lamp over each tray & build 4 more vertical hedge walls.

Repeat steps 1 & 2 until you reach exterior walls

Zip tie your feet to your light mover, hang upside down to defoliate & maintain plants :)

Lol I love the last part! Why didn't I think of that! I'm running RDWC/topfeed hybrid, the aim being to be certain the plants have access to all the nutrients and water they want. The room is sealed, co2 tanks, sentinel chhc-4 environmental controller.

I'm going to build one of my 'pogo' vertical light movers this weekend and I already have my stretchiest strain in the cloning tent. If the first one works, building the other three will be easy to complete quickly.

I'm doing 4 cylinders in the room, which measures 9'3"x10'10". I wanted a fifth one in the middle, but no room- without levitation, at least! Even though these bulbs will be open and unvented, I think their heat and light will be better absorbed by the plants and less cooling will be needed than with conventional trees.

Medusa · Apr 6, 2013

Sounds awesome .make sure ya where a dress when your hanging upside down....perhaps one of those scottish skirts.

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2013

Medusa said:
Sounds awesome .make sure ya where a dress when your hanging upside down....perhaps one of those scottish skirts.

Check out the new thread:
Oh my god he turned it INSIDE OUT!!!

You just keep thinking about me looking up a scottish skirt, lol

Medusa · Apr 6, 2013

I believe it's called a kelt and sometimes you can find a blue ribbon under it LOL

ttystikk · Apr 6, 2013

Medusa said:
I believe it's called a kelt and sometimes you can find a blue ribbon under it LOL

Scotland is a very egalitarian society; looking up skirts/kilts is a pleasure both genders can share!

Medusa · Apr 6, 2013

ttystikk said:
Scotland is a very egalitarian society; looking up skirts/kilts is a pleasure both genders can share!

Good point,and nice country

Wavegem · Apr 13, 2013

So guys I ran some tests with the water cooled light and found that the glass reduces lumens by 10% and the water by another 5% so the total loss on my or any watercooled light is 15%. Also ttystikk, if you are really serious about growing trees and they are inside, hydro is better. Maybe if it was for your head and you didn't want money grow organic soil, but if you think about it hydro is better. You don't need spinning trees or anything crazy, just put as many bulbs in your room as you can cool and fill that shit up. Do it ASAP and stack.

ttystikk · Apr 13, 2013

Wavegem said:
So guys I ran some tests with the water cooled light and found that the glass reduces lumens by 10% and the water by another 5% so the total loss on my or any watercooled light is 15%. Also ttystikk, if you are really serious about growing trees and they are inside, hydro is better. Maybe if it was for your head and you didn't want money grow organic soil, but if you think about it hydro is better. You don't need spinning trees or anything crazy, just put as many bulbs in your room as you can cool and fill that shit up. Do it ASAP and stack.

Sound advice, I intend to follow it forthwith.

LowWater · May 4, 2013

kushtrees said:
I can't wait till Gavita has a vertical bulb.

A light mover moving a bulb around a tree would be pretty cool. Or a spinning plant haha

ttystikk · May 4, 2013

A lazy Susan is a great idea for soil plants. I'm afraid it would just tangle my poor rdwc all up!

caveman4.20 · May 4, 2013

Yo Tystik you ever see that big black contraption a few years back it was a block reservoir that had plants on top rotating on gears .... Not sure if it had DWC set up but I remember seeing it at a grow expo. You could prolly reverse engineer it

Converting to grow trees, need tips

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Converting to grow trees, need tips

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