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Just FYI these emitters break down in especially in higher salinity solutions and leech metals into the water. They also do not really super saturate the water with do like they claim. They do however increase the dwell time of bubbles so much so that a DO meter will pick them up as DO.When using the O2G, the amount of H escaping during the electrolysis stage is quite low. Emitters are on only 30 minutes every 4 hours
Still water in the wild won't have sufficient DO in it to grow plants
My next grow will test some of the information stated above as my plan is to use only the emitters, no recirculation or agitation of the nutrients, though I think it would be a good idea to agitate the roots a bit. So, I have a small lpp to add if needed
FYI Im not planning on starting the O2G only grow here, but could change my mind is enough people let me know they are interestd
FYI Im not planning on starting the O2G only grow here, but could change my mind is enough people let me know they are interestd
Just FYI these emitters break down in especially in higher salinity solutions and leech metals into the water. They also do not really super saturate the water with do like they claim. They do however increase the dwell time of bubbles so much so that a DO meter will pick them up as DO.
Too bad FooDoo is not around anymore (does anyone know where he went?)
I would like to ask him how he starts with clones in his sytem.
I totally agree with all his principals.
The only thing I am not sure about, is would the system of just using circulating water work on freshly cut clones?
Would the stems not become mushy for example?
So curious if someone used flooming or waterfalls in a cloner.
Just use a snake tea bubbler , fuck spending the time cleaning or rebuying air stones. I know I was . Now these bubblers kicks it’s ass in air power and way more Effiecent . No reason for air stones for a 1 Rez guy, shoot I bought 3 of of em lol
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Never done it but I can tell you from a point of understanding gas exchange that both will work. It's not the bubbles from the airstone that replenishs o2 levels... Its the surface agitation. So if you have a pump in the bottom pointed straight up causing the surface to roll in a sense it will be just as efffect as and airstone providing they are equal in surface agitation. Now if you want to go further the larger the surface area the better the gas exchange. So a shorter wider container will provide better gas exchange with the same amount of surface agitation. Also at a certain point more agitation will not put more DO into the water it only allows the gas exchange to keep DO at or close to equalibrium so more agitation doesn't necessarily mean more DO.This is still a bubbler. Airstones, tubes with holes, whatever. All bubblers.
I am looking for people who use some kind of flooming or a waterfall for cloning.
Want to know how they use it, and how they builded it.
In a situation like that colder water will be of better benefit as it has a higher DO content. Without aeration this will be beneficial as the further the o2 levels drift from equalibrium the more it fights to get back... Think of it like a rubber band in a way. That and cooler temps slow growth a bit so the plant demands on oxygen are lower.I am testing several situations with cloning. Done already a few.
Bubbling, sprayers, eb & flow, misters.
Also with different treatments. Just in water, spraying with silica, such things.
Fun to do!
Flooming and waterfalls I did not try out yet.
So looking for experiences.
But I was thinking to do a Kratky set up as well.
Reason for this is, that when clones have no roots yet, they also can't absorb oxygen anyway.
And once they do have roots, they will continue to do well (as many Kratky videos on YouTube prove)
Question is if it works as well with cannabis as it does with tomatoes and basil. :)
Yes warmer root temps give faster growth. I think most studies show 72-77f to be ideal. Above that because of the shift in growth speed so increased demand and the fact warmer water holds lower concentration of o2 things go downhill over those temps.Hahaha,
What I already found out (and it is also the knowledge one will find when reading papers from agricultural universities and such) that higher temps for clones, make roots show earlier. The earlier the roots are there, the less chance for stem rot.
This is still a bubbler. Airstones, tubes with holes, whatever. All bubblers.
I am looking for people who use some kind of flooming or a waterfall for cloning.
Want to know how they use it, and how they builded it.
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