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Wisher619 · Aug 25, 2016

EventHorizan said:
I am pretty stoked! You helped me to understand, and you gave me guidence, and you gave me confidence to make changes... I owe my first grow to you! Thank you... but like you said we still got a little ways to go... 3 more weeks maybe 4 for the runt. I want to see how this photo looks after I transplant him in the bucket. I am gonna super crop and Scrog the shit out that photo...

you may find it difficult to scrog that thing...seeing as how it is a def Indica with thick stiff stems where you would have to serious supercropping.....IMO I would just let it ride....for now....when ever a branch gets 4 nodes....top it on the very top growth....on all branches.....like the top 2....
then when you go to flower....you are gonna have a bunch of donkey dick colas as opposed to a shit load of small nugs.....

Wisher619 · Aug 25, 2016

EventHorizan said:
Yes upping the nuts was exactly what they needed. Listen to this. The table is down a gallon but the ppm didn't change at ALL .... 690! BUT THE bucket was at 780 and it has used about 3/4 gal and the ppm has dropped to 701 ppm.... Interesting to watch these same girls in 2 different medians. I have to say I am more impressed with the bucket! But final yield and smoke test will decide...

yeah all water def gets the upper hand over any media.....coco/soil/rockwool

Wisher619 · Aug 25, 2016

EventHorizan said:
I am glad you did.. I want to watch my teacher finesse these bitches!!!!

I am gonna do something differ this time with my nutes....I am only gonna run grow...as CNS17 grow has the perfect npk for the entire plant cycle....3-1-2.....and in week 3-6 of flower I will add hydroplex which is a p/k booster....I am gonna run the botanicare version of Canna coco
Grow/Hydroplex/pure blend tea/hydroguard
I talked to the main scientist at botanicare the tuesday.....and we talked it out to this formula....
with the pure blend tea being a hand watering once a week to add beneficial hydrocarbon to the media for the hydroguard to break down

EventHorizan · Aug 25, 2016

Wisher619 said:
you may find it difficult to scrog that thing...seeing as how it is a def Indica with thick stiff stems where you would have to serious supercropping.....IMO I would just let it ride....for now....when ever a branch gets 4 nodes....top it on the very top growth....on all branches.....like the top 2....
then when tou go to flower....you are gonna have a bunch of donkey dick colas as opposed to a shit load of small nugs.....

I had thought about that too, but you know how bad I am wanting to super crop and scrog a plant? It feels like an obsession! Well I hope one of my damn fems is a sativa then,,,,, Because hell or high water something is getting super cropped and scrogged if I have to take a pair of pliers to it! lol but I am kinda serious! It has 9 tops right now, if I topped all them, its gonna be a bush! By its self I guess I can, and just use yoyo's to get the best spread,,,

Wisher619 said:
yeah all water def gets the upper hand over any media.....coco/soil/rockwool

I paid $70 dollars for that thing. I would like to have 6 of them all hooked together, with a 55 gallon res... I am sure I could replicate it easy enough. But lets see how it does thru the whole grow before I nominate it...

EventHorizan · Aug 25, 2016

Wisher619 said:
with the pure blend tea being a hand watering once a week to add beneficial hydrocarbon to the media for the hydroguard to break down

This has been something I have been studying a little on my own. I was gonna come to you once I thought I had a better understanding. So I am super glad you are doing this. I will be watching everything but esp beneficials and tea blends/ratios/frequency.... There is so much that we haven't talked about, and that I don't know.... I am super stoked to have you to educate me and allow me to pick your brain!

Wisher619 · Aug 25, 2016

the tea is a product from botanicare...
but....it is made of guano/kelp/earth worm castings....so it is organic....what they do is blend this tea and then introduce enzymes to break it down and then strain it and bottle it....I have always used it but had to stop because it screws up the res because of the organic nature
so I am gonna hand water it in once a week....and keep my base mineral nutes seperate in the res

EventHorizan · Aug 25, 2016

I got a question for you Wish... What don't you know about growing? Or better question,,, what would you like to know better, or what are you trying to learn now? I mean I can tell you have an education, and I don't mean youtube education... Eventho youtube can be a plethora of information once you understand the physics behind what ever it is you seek to understand.

EventHorizan · Aug 25, 2016

Wisher619 said:
the tea is a product from botanicare...
but....it is made of guano/kelp/earth worm castings....so it is organic....what they do is blend this tea and then introduce enzymes to break it down and then strain it and bottle it....I have always used it but had to stop because it screws up the res because of the organic nature
so I am gonna hand water it in once a week....and keep my base mineral nutes seperate in the res

I see... Right,,, take it out the table and hand water, then put back in the table... I like it.

EventHorizan · Aug 25, 2016

Wisher619 said:
the tea is a product from botanicare...
but....it is made of guano/kelp/earth worm castings....so it is organic....what they do is blend this tea and then introduce enzymes to break it down and then strain it and bottle it....I have always used it but had to stop because it screws up the res because of the organic nature
so I am gonna hand water it in once a week....and keep my base mineral nutes seperate in the res

What other things might a person add in that manner? hand watering out side the res?

Wisher619 · Aug 26, 2016

EventHorizan said:
What other things might a person add in that manner? hand watering out side the res?

just mostly teas....any kind of inoculants
as for learning more....right now I am focusing on Dragon Fruit and my potted citrus trees
my citrus isnt doing to well and I cant figure it out for the life of me....so there is a seminar on potted citrus at my local nursery....I will be attending
and I want to figure out how to flower dragon fruit...I am told it has to be a certain age or some shit....
so I am really focusing on those 2 right now

I love growing things...you bring life into this earth....and it pays its life forward to more life....with fruit/decomposition/sugar for microbes....it is amazing....they also give off electrical vibrations which have the ability to change your entire vibrational state....uplifting your mood drastically...
plants are amazing

I appreciate the compliments
My wife tells me sometimes....I am to smart to have a conversation with....she says most of what I talk to her about is beyond her capacity....
I told her....your capacity to understand and learn is governed by yourself....only you have the ability to hold yourself back from understanding or learning or doing things....JMO

EventHorizan · Aug 26, 2016

I like having conversations with you. Your pretty easy to comprehend as long as I somewhat have an understanding of the subject matter. I agree with you wholeheartedly about giving life, and the interactions between me and my plants. That is why I want to grow a few other things too, besides mj. I want to grow a cactus in my yard lol.....I also believe that we need to preserve the course that our planet has set for itself, and the relationship all things have with each other.

EventHorizan · Aug 26, 2016

Wisher619 said:
just mostly teas....any kind of inoculants
as for learning more....right now I am focusing on Dragon Fruit and my potted citrus trees
my citrus isnt doing to well and I cant figure it out for the life of me....so there is a seminar on potted citrus at my local nursery....I will be attending
and I want to figure out how to flower dragon fruit...I am told it has to be a certain age or some shit....
so I am really focusing on those 2 right now

I love growing things...you bring life into this earth....and it pays its life forward to more life....with fruit/decomposition/sugar for microbes....it is amazing....they also give off electrical vibrations which have the ability to change your entire vibrational state....uplifting your mood drastically...
plants are amazing

I appreciate the compliments
My wife tells me sometimes....I am to smart to have a conversation with....she says most of what I talk to her about is beyond her capacity....
I told her....your capacity to understand and learn is governed by yourself....only you have the ability to hold yourself back from understanding or learning or doing things....JMO

I have never heard of dragon fruit, and not much about citrus trees. Lol actually nothing,,, I struck out there.

Wisher619 · Aug 26, 2016

dragon fruit is a fruit bearing cactus found mostly in the asia pacific

Wisher619 · Aug 26, 2016

my first dragon fruit

propagated/clone of the original....super easy....you cut it off and stick it in dirt and soak the dirt

special purple avocado from mexico....
strawberries in the bed and a carolina reaper on the right

this is where the waste from my drain to waste goes....wifes flower patch

over grown peppers in a box

canopy shot

fear the "Reaper"

EventHorizan · Aug 26, 2016

@Wisher619 I just got home from work and seen some kind of foam on my water in the res. ..

Wisher619 · Aug 26, 2016

so take a reading....ph and ppm.....if it is good.....wouldnt worry....sometimes it happens

Wisher619 · Aug 26, 2016

usually that happens when you have biological growth.......or when you have strong agitation from your air stones....usually from the breakdown of sugars

EventHorizan · Aug 26, 2016

Ya I read a little on it. My water level had dropped about an 1 1/2 " ,,, about 2 gallon and the Air stones was really aerating it. I just added water and brought it back to 100%, rephed, and went on to the bucket.... Here is the daily numbers.
Table
100%= 690 ppm
701/6.2 ppm, then I added ro water, rechecked, ppm 610, brought up to 100%, phed to 677/6.0
BUCKET
100%=780 ppm
7am ,,, 736/6.1, rephed to 5.8
6pm,,, added 1 1/2 gal ro, ppm was 516. Brought uo to a 100%, and rephed to 834/5.8 I added 4ml x 2.5 of Kool Bloom too which is calculated in the 834 ppm...

EventHorizan · Aug 26, 2016

I got a question for you Wish. I didnt do anything to the runt lst wise but yet it is a really nice bushy plant with out that 12" top. It has several branches with in a couple inches of the top. Is this somehow to do with the bucket? I had to lst like a nut to get the other one bushy and honestly i think the runt is bushier and at this point, wouldn't be surprised if she produces as much as the other, and maybe more. She is deff a week behind in the flowering stage. You can tell by the pistols. She is a couple days younger by time... She was a late hatcher.....

EventHorizan · Aug 26, 2016

That bucket she is in is 15 wide and 15 inches deep.

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