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So I couldnt run a 1k light on a mover over the whole 4x8 and do almost as well as 2 lights?
So I couldnt run a 1k light on a mover over the whole 4x8 and do almost as well as 2 lights?I would actually run a 1k
a 1k is desired for a 4x4
if you are running a 4x8 that is 2k
each 1k will pull 1.5-2lbs
weight is dictated by light
less light = less weight
you can do what you are suggesting.....but I suggest.....dont set your expectations to high.....
JMO
what do you see in this, that would make you think that I shouldn't set my expectations to high? I felt once dialed in I should or could pull 1.5 lbs every 2 months on a 600 w/light mover? and if I decided to run both 600's 0n the same light mover, I could double that. I did however think that I might have to reduce to 3x8 because of my footprint on the 600I would actually run a 1k
a 1k is desired for a 4x4
if you are running a 4x8 that is 2k
each 1k will pull 1.5-2lbs
weight is dictated by light
less light = less weight
you can do what you are suggesting.....but I suggest.....dont set your expectations to high.....
JMO
because I have seen many .....really experienced growers pull 1.5-2.5 off of a 1k in a 4x4what do you see in this, that would make you think that I shouldn't set my expectations to high? I felt once dialed in I should or could pull 1.5 lbs every 2 months on a 600 w/light mover? and if I decided to run both 600's 0n the same light mover, I could double that. I did however think that I might have to reduce to 3x8 because of my footprint on the 600
Well fk!!! That wasn't what I wanted to hear.. I was sure looking at that in a different way. No matter how I arrange the buckets, I can't cover all them, esp in 60 days, when I flip them,,, with just one light. I am in over my head with this.because I have seen many .....really experienced growers pull 1.5 off of a 1k in a 4x4
if your light is on a mover
half the area is not gettng light half the time
2 600's will get you a little over 1/3 more than a 1k because it is only 200 more watts than a 1k
the width isnt the problem
its the length
and each plant can only absorb as much electrical wavelength as available
more plants = less electricity to each
less plants = more electricity absorbed to each plant
the electricity isnt infinite
600w is only 600w
so devide that by how many plants
and that is how much per plant
and if it is on a mover
well then half that
because the plant is only getting full light part of the time
light movers work well for say vertical bare bulb side lighting....but not overhead
IMO
all the way up to first vegetationAnd how far can i bury this stem when I transplant?
a light for your seedling setup needs at least 4 bulbsWell fk!!! That wasn't what I wanted to hear.. I was sure looking at that in a different way. No matter how I arrange the buckets, I can't cover all them, esp in 60 days, when I flip them,,, with just one light. I am in over my head with this.
My seedlings are gonna have to get transplanted soon, like real soon. they keep stretching and falling over. I can't even cover all them with the t5 once transp[lanted in the buckets. i got decisions to make and not much time to make them. this seedling stretching is my biggest time is of the essence problem... I had thought I could use the light mover in veg to with my 600 mh to cover all these buckets... but hell if isnt gonna alleviate my problem then I am a little confused on what to do.
I got a 4 bulb 4 footer going now. the ballast came in today finally. eventho only 3 bulbs are firing. I fking wish i would of just bought a new light before I spent 30 on bulbs and 40 on a ballast 3 days later. i could of put another 70 with that and had a 8 bulb 4 footer that would of c0vered them...a light for your seedling setup needs at least 4 bulbs
and for veg you could use an 8 bulb setup
the flower 2 hps 600
just bring your space in and surround it with reflection
flat white paint has the highest reflectivity
And I painted the whole room white. Flat white. Even the concrete floor /:)I got a 4 bulb 4 footer going now. the ballast came in today finally. eventho only 3 bulbs are firing. I fking wish i would of just bought a new light before I spent 30 on bulbs and 40 on a ballast 3 days later. i could of put another 70 with that and had a 8 bulb 4 footer that would of c0vered them...
But here is what I am prob gonna do. I am gonna purchase a new hid ballast. I only have 1 ballast and its being used in flower, but I have 2 hoods... This new ballast will run 400, 600, 1000 bulbs, AND its dimmable from 400 too 1050 or 1150, ... I could run my 600 mh bulb at 400 watts to start veg, and then when my flower is half way in(30 days), I switch out ballast, so my 600 is in veg, and my new ballast is in flower and running 1k... This is just the best I can come up with. Plus then I will have back up ballast for flower if any thing should ever happen. A new t5 light and this ballast cost roughly the same.. Just figure the ballast would be the better purchasing decision at this point.
you could always divide the space.....have a space just for veg and for flowerI got a 4 bulb 4 footer going now. the ballast came in today finally. eventho only 3 bulbs are firing. I fking wish i would of just bought a new light before I spent 30 on bulbs and 40 on a ballast 3 days later. i could of put another 70 with that and had a 8 bulb 4 footer that would of c0vered them...
But here is what I am prob gonna do. I am gonna purchase a new hid ballast. I only have 1 ballast and its being used in flower, but I have 2 hoods... This new ballast will run 400, 600, 1000 bulbs, AND its dimmable from 400 too 1050 or 1150, ... I could run my 600 mh bulb at 400 watts to start veg, and then when my flower is half way in(30 days), I switch out ballast, so my 600 is in veg, and my new ballast is in flower and running 1k... This is just the best I can come up with. Plus then I will have back up ballast for flower if any thing should ever happen. A new t5 light and this ballast cost roughly the same.. Just figure the ballast would be the better purchasing decision at this point.
you could always divide the space.....have a space just for veg and for flower
4 and 4
veg under the 600
then transfer them over to the flower
you just lift and drop into the flower bucket....
that way you can have both going at the same time
and 4 under a 1K...bushed will be serious...
so you veg for a certain time under the MH...and you keep topping......every time a shoot get 4 nodes you pop the top
then you transfer to flower...and drop a double trellis just for support...12" above the top and 12" above that....no scrogging
keep the 4 buckets under a 4x4 area
you could build a 4x8 framed room and split it in half......
and then use the tent for drying
clones can go on a little shelf in the corner somewhere
that would actually be ridiculously amazing
So you mean split the buckets up. 4 for veg and 4 for flower. 600 mh in veg and 1k in flower. And just move the net pots from veg to flower never having to move the buckets. I had thought about doing that in the beginning.you could always divide the space.....have a space just for veg and for flower
4 and 4
veg under the 600
then transfer them over to the flower
you just lift and drop into the flower bucket....
that way you can have both going at the same time
and 4 under a 1K...bushed will be serious...
so you veg for a certain time under the MH...and you keep topping......every time a shoot get 4 nodes you pop the top
then you transfer to flower...and drop a double trellis just for support...12" above the top and 12" above that....no scrogging
keep the 4 buckets under a 4x4 area
you could build a 4x8 framed room and split it in half......
and then use the tent for drying
clones can go on a little shelf in the corner somewhere
that would actually be ridiculously amazing
yeah that is exactly what I am sayingSo you mean split the buckets up. 4 for veg and 4 for flower. 600 mh in veg and 1k in flower. And just move the net pots from veg to flower never having to move the buckets. I had thought about doing that in the beginning.
Well I don't think I have much choice. With a flip every 60 days, my plants veging 60 days should×4 fill out my 1K foot print right when flipped to flower. 8 plants veging 60 days after stretching in flower would have been more than £ probably could have handled...yeah that is exactly what I am saying
I think that would work real well
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