Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

[EventHorizan]

no it will be fine....plants actually flop over like that so its all good
my last run.....the last 25 days some of my colas were literally laying down

lol well I an actually hoping that soon I will have to use then to hold branches up instead of down, but honestly these look like some pretty tough branches. But then again I have no idea how big these buds get or even remotely how heavy.

hahahha yeah....its all good
what I doo is flush the coco with nutes and then I put the seedling in there and dont water again until the coco is almost dry
then I will feed from the bottom.....just fill up the tray and let the seedlings take in what they need

Oh,,, you are what they consider pre-charging the coco ?
So you fill up the tray with same strength?

 

[EventHorizan]

I have been trying to find a site and a forum that has a good current waterfarm thread. I joined a site. I think it is against the rules to say it, so I won't, but what a joke.. Mistake. Makes me really realize how good this site is! Kudos to you and the other elders....


Edit: I will always defer to your judgement on nutrients, deficiencies, and plant care,, etc.. But learning system operation from RECIRCULATING dwc "WATERFARM" users that are current users, would prob be beneficial for me. knowing the problems they face, and their solutions. I know this is gonna be a challenge, but I just got to do it. The challenge is the challenge of it. Its hard, and that is what makes it exciting and fun! I got years to tinker and have fun... By retirement i ought to have a 8 bucket system that runs itself for 2 weeks. THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

You know I liked that fancy 800 under current system when I first got here. You all talked a little sense into me and you was right,,, I had a lot to learn before i even thought about that, And I still do. But you taught me how to use the flood table. You taught me how to use the powergrower. It was close on the ebb and grow, or ebb and flow, but my heart is in the dwc, esp with the drip ring to get them started. Just combines the best of both worlds. Question is,,, @Wisher619 do you think my plant benefits from the drip ring once the roots are established in the water?

 

[Wisher619]

Yeah I am a member of a few
all of the sights have there perks
I enjoi RIU for the innovators in LED tech
there are some badass dudes over there when it comes to LED.....they are members here as well but completely inactive

yeah I charge my coco
most of the ppms are Calmg plus....about 250 of it
the rest is a little grow and silica
she will hopefully be bursting soon

I am stoked because I have never grown these Affies under lights....always outdoors
so it is gonna be awesome to see what these can do in hydro under high powered LED
these are straight up hash plant landrace seeds....genetics have never ever been introduced to hydroponics

 

[Wisher619]

oh yeah
yes this will be my feed until she steps her game up to veg state.....then she will get about 700ppm......
that is what I am running mommy at right now and she is loving it
I am also gonna try something differ
I am gonna be running grow the entire run....with a p/k boost in the 3rd week of flower
my grow has the perfect ratio of npk for coco
3-1-2
you just run the boost in the beginning of flower to stack the flower sights....then back to the steady diet it will go

I have been reading alot about this....and watching people running Canna Coco
just A/B.....no grow or bloom....just a 2 part that you always give = parts of....you just slowly up the dose into flower with a p/k during week 3-5
so I am gonna replicate with CNS17

 

[EventHorizan]

yeah I charge my coco
most of the ppms are Calmg plus....about 250 of it
the rest is a little grow and silica
she will hopefully be bursting soon

I am stoked because I have never grown these Affies under lights....always outdoors
so it is gonna be awesome to see what these can do in hydro under high powered LED
these are straight up hash plant landrace seeds....genetics have never ever been introduced to hydroponics[/QUOTE]
Wow that is pretty neat! I can't wait to see how she will look. Indica or sativa dominate?

oh yeah
yes this will be my feed until she steps her game up to veg state.....then she will get about 700ppm......
that is what I am running mommy at right now and she is loving it
I am also gonna try something differ
I am gonna be running grow the entire run....with a p/k boost in the 3rd week of flower
my grow has the perfect ratio of npk for coco
3-1-2
you just run the boost in the beginning of flower to stack the flower sights....then back to the steady diet it will go

I have been reading alot about this....and watching people running Canna Coco
just A/B.....no grow or bloom....just a 2 part that you always give = parts of....you just slowly up the dose into flower with a p/k during week 3-5
so I am gonna replicate with CNS17

So you only use that boost in week 3 to 5? kool bloom would be a bloom boost right? I was wondering how long I should give it for. I haven't added no more anywhere in a few days. I will give the table 2 more feeding with kool bloom then I should back off. The table has never showed any problems or yellowing on tops, so i feel comfortable giving another dose or 2. But you know best, so what you think.

As for nutes, I need to really study npk values and how you figure out the ratios, so you know what replicates what. I know that if I ever use coco again, I want to use canna coco a/b, or atleast coco specific nutes, fxxk that mixing 6 different things! @Midwestjay props for simplifying my life with FNB,,, I love it so far! One mix,, bam done,, and it brings my ph down just about right. That is awesome! By the way hope your good homie!

 

[EventHorizan]

I will always defer to your judgement on nutrients, deficiencies, and plant care,, etc.. But learning system operation from RECIRCULATING dwc "WATERFARM" users that are current users, would prob be beneficial for me. Knowing the problems they face, and their solutions. I know this is gonna be a challenge, but I just got to do it. The challenge is the challenge of it. Its hard, and that is what makes it exciting and fun! I got years to tinker and have fun... By retirement i ought to have a 8 bucket system that runs itself for 2 weeks. THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

You know I liked that fancy 800 under current system when I first got here. You all talked a little sense into me and you was right,,, I had a lot to learn before i even thought about that, And I still do. But you taught me how to use the flood table. You taught me how to use the powergrower. It was close on the ebb and grow, or ebb and flow, but my heart is in the dwc, esp with the drip ring to get them started. Just combines the best of both worlds. Question is,,, @Wisher619 do you think my plant benefits from the drip ring once the roots are established in the water?

 

[Wisher619]

I will always defer to your judgement on nutrients, deficiencies, and plant care,, etc.. But learning system operation from RECIRCULATING dwc "WATERFARM" users that are current users, would prob be beneficial for me. Knowing the problems they face, and their solutions. I know this is gonna be a challenge, but I just got to do it. The challenge is the challenge of it. Its hard, and that is what makes it exciting and fun! I got years to tinker and have fun... By retirement i ought to have a 8 bucket system that runs itself for 2 weeks. THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

You know I liked that fancy 800 under current system when I first got here. You all talked a little sense into me and you was right,,, I had a lot to learn before i even thought about that, And I still do. But you taught me how to use the flood table. You taught me how to use the powergrower. It was close on the ebb and grow, or ebb and flow, but my heart is in the dwc, esp with the drip ring to get them started. Just combines the best of both worlds. Question is,,, @Wisher619 do you think my plant benefits from the drip ring once the roots are established in the water?

I reall dont....not if there is air being pumped in and there is a res in the bottom......if it was just a recirc system....I could see the use but not once established in a dwc....it really serves no purpose IMO

 

[Wisher619]

yeah I charge my coco
most of the ppms are Calmg plus....about 250 of it
the rest is a little grow and silica
she will hopefully be bursting soon

I am stoked because I have never grown these Affies under lights....always outdoors
so it is gonna be awesome to see what these can do in hydro under high powered LED
these are straight up hash plant landrace seeds....genetics have never ever been introduced to hydroponics

Wow that is pretty neat! I can't wait to see how she will look. Indica or sativa dominate?
So you only use that boost in week 3 to 5? kool bloom would be a bloom boost right? I was wondering how long I should give it for. I haven't added no more anywhere in a few days. I will give the table 2 more feeding with kool bloom then I should back off. The table has never showed any problems or yellowing on tops, so i feel comfortable giving another dose or 2. But you know best, so what you think.

As for nutes, I need to really study npk values and how you figure out the ratios, so you know what replicates what. I know that if I ever use coco again, I want to use canna coco a/b, or atleast coco specific nutes, fxxk that mixing 6 different things! @Midwestjay props for simplifying my life with FNB,,, I love it so far! One mix,, bam done,, and it brings my ph down just about right. That is awesome! By the way hope your good homie![/QUOTE]
you can run the bloom for as lomg as you want....but you see for your feed....you already have a high P/K value
what I am gonna run....I will have a really low P/K value
so the boost into flower alows the plant the availability of those nutrients to build flower structure and flower sights
then once they bloom I go back to standard feed....which will carry the flowers.....they only need the P/K to get the flowers started and then use alot of N to grow the flowers and really not much P but does use K
but the unique properties of Coco allow a lower K value

 

[Wisher619]

http://www.cannagardening.com/coco_a_b
scroll down and wach the video...it explains how coco works pretty well and why I am gonna do what I am

 

[EventHorizan]

http://www.cannagardening.com/coco_a_b
scroll down and wach the video...it explains how coco works pretty well and why I am gonna do what I am

That was an informative video.. coco is really cool. Once you understand it's properties it becomes a lot simpler...

 

[EventHorizan]

I know you probably can't tell but them buds are getting frosty. And sticky. I was putting the yo yo's on and my arms and fingers got a Lil sticky. They are also starting to smell gooooood. ... I am pretty proud of my canopy. I worked and lst sometimes daily and rearranged multiple times getting Lil branches moved towards the middle. My branch from the first node is as high as any of them... I am feeling better and better about my yields. ...

 

[Wisher619]

man that looks great
pretty excited for you
I feel growing plants in general is such a joy
seeing people succeed is pretty awesome....

 

[EventHorizan]

man that looks great
pretty excited for you
I feel growing plants in general is such a joy
seeing people succeed is pretty awesome....

Thanks Wish! We have did a pretty good job so far... Wish @Midwestjay would check in and check out the girls.. He was right here with them for 30 days.

 

[EventHorizan]

Hey @Wisher619 my damn humidity keeps rising up to almost 60%. Somewhere in the last 48 hrs it even hit almost 70%. Most of the time I check it, its at 50 to 55% I got my ac running in my bed room at full blast. temps in grow room our low 70's. My room is so cold i have to wear a hoodie to sit in it. So i can't cool it no more. I cant really go splurge for a good dehumidifier. Maybe a real real cheap one. My fan filter exhaust is on full blast creating a lot of negative pressure so I have tremendous air flow and air movement inside of the tent. I need to understand neg pressure and grow tent control. Should I ever switch the speed of my exhaust to control these humidity problems? Is lights on compared to lights off, require different parameters? And what can I get by with on humidity, as long as temps are good and air flow is excellent?

 

[Wisher619]

well humidity should be ok.....and temps are ok up to 80 degrees......
is the humidity 60-70 in your room as well or just in the tent
the ac should be keeping things dry....unless the ac stops because ambient temps are lowering

 

[EventHorizan]

well humidity should be ok.....and temps are ok up to 80 degrees......
is the humidity 60-70 in your room as well or just in the tent
the ac should be keeping things dry....unless the ac stops because ambient temps are lowering

Well I just popped my head in the tent to see. Remember these plants are on thier 6 hr dark cycle from 10 am to 4 pm. Just now it was 61 degrees, and 60% RH. I would imagine that my room is the same. I know its colder than shit in here and I got to wear a hoodie... I keep my exhaust carbon filter fan running full blast 24/7, and the occilating fan on full blast 24/7... The hood vent fan comes on and off with the lights.

 

[Wisher619]

damn that is cold......I would just set the ac to like 72 and leave it.....the humidity in the dark is ok....as long as you have fans blowing and air exchange it will be fine

 

[EventHorizan]

damn that is cold......I would just set the ac to like 72 and leave it.....the humidity in the dark is ok....as long as you have fans blowing and air exchange it will be fine

Unfortunately it is a 5000 btu window unit with mechanical knobs and its either full on, or it tends to fall behind, and when the light comes on it can quickly climb to 78. It just can't regulate itself very well. Next summer my basement room will be set up much better, with a lot more control. It all just takes time... I did however drop it a little. We will see.... No matter what I want to keep that neg pressure as strong as possible right?

 

[Wisher619]

yeah just keep the air movement and it should be fine

 

[EventHorizan]

I snuck in and took a couple pics right before the light comes on...