Council Of First Knowledge, Jedi Temple Training Facility

[Wisher619]

oh also if you wanted it to dry
you could have dripped for 1 min every other day

that way they would go through a slight dry cycle
as your humidity is so high

 

[EventHorizan]

I hate do disagree with you but on this one I must

I believe adding the CO2 is what is effin up your system

something to do with the enviroment

remember I sat plants in coco literally in a tray of nutrients.....and never let the coco dry out and never had ill effects

as a matter of fact I am doing that now

there are many factors that contribute to roots not growing
watering coco every day isnt one of them

usually the main contributor of plants not taking up water or nutrients
respiration
if the plant isnt respiring then the plant dosnt need to eat or drink
my Veg plants are sitting @81f 62%RH
I know that dosnt sit in the VPD range but I can sit my plants in nutrients and they are perfectly fine

so there may be multiple factors but watering coco every day I dont think is one

but again that is just My Opinion

the only time I have ever had problems....besides Veg+Bloom
is letting my coco dry

No I dont totally disagree with what your saying. mater fact you are kind of making my point...
I maxed everything out before they were ready... Watering everyday, along with 75% rh, plus one day they got a serious watering... My temps are , or were 85 in tent... C02 was extremely high...
I just think they had a good ass kicking!
Im not saying that they arnt surviving, and growing like a weed! cause they are, i just dont got that praying going on and I dont like it! I did read some plants have big floppy leaves genetically...
I changed some things... I turned down temp from 85 to 84 and I dropped my rh from 75 to 65# eventho i didnt turn on the humidor so it huffering around 55..

You had me leave the coco dry for 2 days one time when we first started, and then we resumed normal watering, and we saw improvement... So thats what we are doing....

U think I should shut the c02 off for a week?
The room is sealed. No intake...

 

[EventHorizan]

oh also if you wanted it to dry
you could have dripped for 1 min every other day

that way they would go through a slight dry cycle
as your humidity is so high

I should of tried that. But i tore the drip system down because 16 hoses kept getting in my way. Now if i was gonna keep that system, i would permanently mount the drip system and it would be better, but my way was not good for 16 plants, 4 maybe,, not 16 tho...
Lesson learned for me...

 

[EventHorizan]

I foliared about an hr or so ago, they was really drooping after that lol,,, we see if they have raised up yet....
I go snap a pic of my girls....

 

[jipp]

No I dont totally disagree with what your saying. mater fact you are kind of making my point...
I maxed everything out before they were ready... Watering everyday, along with 75% rh, plus one day they got a serious watering... My temps are , or were 85 in tent... C02 was extremely high...
I just think they had a good ass kicking!
Im not saying that they arnt surviving, and growing like a weed! cause they are, i just dont got that praying going on and I dont like it! I did read some plants have big floppy leaves genetically...
I changed some things... I turned down temp from 85 to 84 and I dropped my rh from 75 to 65# eventho i didnt turn on the humidor so it huffering around 55..

You had me leave the coco dry for 2 days one time when we first started, and then we resumed normal watering, and we saw improvement... So thats what we are doing....

U think I should shut the c02 off for a week?
The room is sealed. No intake...

you mean like this fucker hha.

that is the most she is gonna lift her skirt up for ya.. she is a prude bitch and im having to remove leafs once they get to big or the block the others.. bitch of a plant.

chris.

 

[EventHorizan]

So now i am really confused because maybe they are underwatered.. Im fucking never using anything but straight hydro from now on.. Under watered, over watered ridiculous...
You have absolutely none of these problems in rdwc...
Dwc is a breeze compared to this...

 

[EventHorizan]

you mean like this fucker hha.
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that is the most she is gonna lift her skirt up for ya.. she is a prude bitch and im having to remove leafs once they get to big or the block the others.. bitch of a plant.

chris.

Something is wrong with that plant! That is not normal growth. something is making her grow stunted with fat leaves and no distance on the fan leaf stems. Im not good enough to understand yet but im gonna be!
I feel like i need to pull a plant out of the pot so i can see its roots and see if I can see wtf is up..

 

[EventHorizan]

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btw your girls are looking good :)
Mine got a lil drunk over the 4th..
They are recovering...
Think I should pull one out of the pot and take a look at it?

 

[EventHorizan]

@Wisher619
If it was under watered, then watering it would pop it back up eh?
Look how my new growth is coming in?
To me in looks skeltor looking, boney....
wtf u think brother?
Should I pop a plant out and get a look at the roots?

 

[Farmer P]

Something is wrong with that plant! That is not normal growth. something is making her grow stunted with fat leaves and no distance on the fan leaf stems. Im not good enough to understand yet but im gonna be!
I feel like i need to pull a plant out of the pot so i can see its roots and see if I can see wtf is up..

Maybe just a different pheno that is less tolerant of the environment than the others. Now you will have more work mixing separate nutes lol. Or just cull, but you might be getting rid of a gem. Mindfuck.

 

[Farmer P]

It's too early to throw in the towel. Your plants are jamming. Wait until the grow is over to decide if you like coco. Are you using the same coco as Wisher?

 

[EventHorizan]

Maybe just a different pheno that is less tolerant of the environment than the others. Now you will have more work mixing separate nutes lol. Or just cull, but you might be getting rid of a gem. Mindfuck.

Im not mixing separate nutes.. Thete ec is fine... The ph is fine.. this is environment/root issue... It looks like its affecting my older plants more..
I wonder if im underwatering there muthfreakers!!!!! WISHER !!! lmao... hahaha

 

[EventHorizan]

It's too early to throw in the towel. Your plants are jamming. Wait until the grow is over to decide if you like coco. Are you using the same coco as Wisher?

lol throw in the towel,,, not hardly..
I resurrect these bitches!
They are just stressed with me!
Im beginning to think wisher is right and im underwatering lol
they feel pretty damn light except for the smaller ones...

 

[incogneato]

I hate do disagree with you but on this one I must

I believe adding the CO2 is what is effin up your system

something to do with the enviroment

remember I sat plants in coco literally in a tray of nutrients.....and never let the coco dry out and never had ill effects

as a matter of fact I am doing that now

there are many factors that contribute to roots not growing
watering coco every day isnt one of them

usually the main contributor of plants not taking up water or nutrients
respiration
if the plant isnt respiring then the plant dosnt need to eat or drink
my Veg plants are sitting @81f 62%RH
I know that dosnt sit in the VPD range but I can sit my plants in nutrients and they are perfectly fine

so there may be multiple factors but watering coco every day I dont think is one

but again that is just My Opinion

the only time I have ever had problems....besides Veg+Bloom
is letting my coco dry

I gotta agree with Wish. You would be hard pressed to over water in coco brotha. That's also the only time I had probs was when I let the coco dry out.

I foliared about an hr or so ago, they was really drooping after that lol,,, we see if they have raised up yet....
I go snap a pic of my girls....

I never got a good result from foliar either. I know there's people that do, just never worked well for me.

 

[EventHorizan]

It's too early to throw in the towel. Your plants are jamming. Wait until the grow is over to decide if you like coco. Are you using the same coco as Wisher?

no no no,, fuck coco, because dwc is easier! A lot easier!
I made more mess with this coco in 2 weeks than i did in 6 months with hydroton...
When i say easier, i mean in a lot of ways..

 

[EventHorizan]

I gotta agree with Wish. You would be hard pressed to over water in coco brotha. That's also the only time I had probs was when I let the coco dry out.

I never got a good result from foliar either. I know there's people that do, just never worked well for me.

Ya I know, but under circumstances of 75% rh and temps of 85 things dont dry the same and that changes the equation I believe. I beleive my roots are streesed

 

[Farmer P]

Yeah, I guess you gotta go with what you like the best. I still say it's awfully early to decide. And remember the old saying "less is more". Don't kill your plants with kindness.

 

[EventHorizan]

oh damn i forgot to post pics...

 

[EventHorizan]

14 and 11 days old today....

 

[EventHorizan]

I gotta agree with Wish. You would be hard pressed to over water in coco brotha. That's also the only time I had probs was when I let the coco dry out.

I never got a good result from foliar either. I know there's people that do, just never worked well for me.

oh the foliar was with ogbiowar foliar pack.. Its for bug and mold prevention... It didnt have any nutes in it..