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If u end up going this route give nectar for the gods liquid calcium a try. Also have u ever considered using Coco? Seem to get a larger room mass in Coco than soil. Larger roots larger buds! Lol. Good thread bro.I would try to get a Ca:Mg ratio in the range of 6:1, see how the plant in question responds. I discovered during a coir run of The White that she's not a "calmag" whore, she needs calcium, LOTS of calcium.
I don't do well with formulaic feeding, so my own suggestion should be taken with a grain of something not too salty. However, the nice thing with the liquid Ca supplements I've used is that they can be given via foliar applications if so desired. Calcium-25 must be used as a foliar application.
im no biologist but from the massive research ive done on cal/mag, seems most have a ratio out of wack for some. Mixing your own custom blend would work better, right? And nectar of the gods is a calcium phosphate where as most companies cal/mag uses a calcium nitrate. Nitrates from what ive read is harder for some plants to break down. I think anyway. Someone correct me if im wrong. Because unless im wrong i too plan to purchase calcium phosphate instead of nitrate in next go roundIf u end up going this route give nectar for the gods liquid calcium a try. Also have u ever considered using Coco? Seem to get a larger room mass in Coco than soil. Larger roots larger buds! Lol. Good thread bro.
If the CaCO3 is in a liquid form then it's basically already broken down for the plant. I hear ya on the greensand, but I still add it, it will come into play about 3yrs or so after application and there's nothing wrong with being proactive. Mostly I was getting at the actual ratios of Ca:Mg. Looking up the product, it looks pretty fucking good @12%Ca & 2%Mg, plus they've got a wee bit of Fe in the mix.Foliarly application is done regularly in veg but not as often in flower. In veg i spray every other day. Since i've got a Humboldt Nutrients left i use their SeaCal which uses Calcium Gluconate as the Ca source. I don't think we've run this plant specifically with Humboldts lineup as it's always been some customized feeding program made up by my grow partner. He uses the CaMg supplement called Equilibrium from Humboldt, It's CaCO3 and a much higher % too. In the vortex brewer there is Greensand, i know it takes forever to break down, but it is micronized so that helps quite a bit. Also, in the soil we use VermiFire it is balanced with Greensand as well. So...i'd probably say it'd be easiest to measure the results of using the liquid form and the most easily available form as well, right? is CaCo3 or C12H22CaO14 easier for the plant to consume?
I don't know if it's better or easier, let alone more bio-available. Bioavailability is what I'm after, not solubility.The greensand is in the Earth Syrup http://vortexbrewer.com/products/earth-syrup/ for the Vortex Brewer. It is comprised of 4 ingredients. Although i'd like to find a way to add a 5th. I think the Earth Compound (steer manure) doesn't have enough diverse life for our specific plant and I think Cap's products would fit in better, but getting the talc filtered out is the current issue. Need to determine the micron size for that and then we can scoop it into there as well.
so then calcium carbonate is better or easier to absorb for the plant than calcium gluconate?
I don't know if it's better or easier, let alone more bio-available. Bioavailability is what I'm after, not solubility.
Mix up the OGBiowar, let it settle for a few minutes, pour off the water and leave the talc behind. I don't know if you can or should do this *prior* to brewing, it's what I do for the brew because when I make teas I no longer use bags for the most part.
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