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I didn't know that the US version didn't have PGR's, I thought they just didn't label them because they would have trouble selling? I assumed they were still PGR based, like rock nutrients are. Where did you get your info btw?I'm going to give it a try in my DWC rooms. My sales guy told me the company used to make AN's products, but they had a falling out.
The non-US versions of their products have PGRs.
I didn't know that the US version didn't have PGR's, I thought they just didn't label them because they would have trouble selling? I assumed they were still PGR based, like rock nutrients are. Where did you get your info btw?
I remember reading an article about cyco nutrients and how their "special" ingredients were PGR's. If you go to their website nutrient calculator, if you choose Non-USA, it will say PGRs.
It's the same thing with phosphoload, flower dragon, etc. IF they have to sell in the US, they have to label the bottle as poison, and probably other restrictions. So if you see bottles in the US, they're bringing it from other countries and not the usual distributors.
Why do you say that? how do you know it's not the PGR's that are making them turn out good? I'm still suspicious that they might have PGR's and that you really don't know for sure whether they do or don't have PGR's. Only thing I know is the US version doesn't have PGR's listed, do they sell there stuff in Oregon?
1/2 price is half price, that simple. We sell direct so we know our customers will not be being fed BS. If you look at our site you'll find it is loaded with grow info that is there to help our clients. To do this takes time and time is money. E.g. to date several partners have invested over 2 million. If you visit our site and actually read the scrolling text at top and about us it is self explanatory - or use the menu bar "ABOUT US". The karma is my associate (a guy I very much liked and who was well respected by the industry who is now bankrupt because of the Cyco behind Cyco - did I mention that not only did these bikie rags hurt him but his wife and 2 children also) loses nothing while Mr Cyco suddenly has his products prices sold at half price direct to growers and he loses money (half price with delivery included). All good karma for my associate (actually me too because Mr Cyco owes me a few dollars as well) - albeit altruistically. And the Cyco formulas are the AN formulas - not the Dutch Master formulas. There's another story in itself and I will write about this when I publish the Cyco behind Cyco. And yes, they are good formulas (they were rejigged in Australia by a chemist friend of mine and I have tweaked them further since). Hope this clarifies things.
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Just a quick example. For instance, if I were to throw up a formula for a product such as I don't know - lets say the formula is 125 grams calcium nitrate, 1.6 grams ammonium nitrate, 56 grams magnesium nitrate etc etc etc + micros. That isn't a formula - you need to also understand that every batch varies in purity and every brand is different. So you run off to your Ag supplier and let's say buy Yarra or Haifa base fertilizers. Only thing is what you don't know is that their calcium nitrate is calcium ammonium nitrate (CAN) when the formula actually requires calcium nitrate tetrahydrate and then what percentage would the micros be? Add to this what percentage of elemental nutrients were in the original fertilizers that we used in the original formulation etc. I have limited time to cruise forums but many of the formulas I have seen placed up are disastrous concoctions clearly developed by people with no idea or maybe even put up as a joke (certainly to me they must have been a joke). The thing that wasn't funny was that in the wrong hands these formulas would simply kill plants. Bottom line - if you want to learn nutrient chemistry do a degree in chemistry or a related subject and/or learn properly hands on working with someone who does understand the chemistry and has experience in this field
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