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exciting. Do you go bean to bud in those 3 gals? I too grow under bridgelux with a few cree in the rig. How many watts are you pulling? And what is your lamp height?Thanks to the fine folks here I bought myself some Ace Seeds gear. Without further ado
4x4 tent
HLG 480h 42a
12 x Bridgelux EBb 3000k
3 gallon smart pots
Coco coir Botanicare
Pure blend pro/Liquid Karma/CaliMagic
DTW
FIM - Hopefully
SCROG
Monster Crop - Hopefully
6 x Malawi x Panama Fem
Just put these seeds in last night after charging the coco with 500ppm at 5.8ph. Controllers are set for 75-80f and 70-75% RH.
Never scrogged before, second time growing photos, and first time using LEDs.
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exciting. Do you go bean to bud in those 3 gals? I too grow under bridgelux with a few cree in the rig. How many watts are you pulling? And what is your lamp height? View attachment 861203
I am growing a Malawi strain...not sure if original or hybrid. The seeds were tiny...much smaller than most Sativa strains. They sprouted but seemed to stall shortly after popping. I had one that stayed at soil level for over 10 days and I thought it was dead until I removed it and saw a viable looking tap root. I put it in the "spare" bucket that is a catch all for unexpected orphans...gimpy seeds, rooting broken branches, extra clones etc. It finally started growing although at day 17, it is only sporting the first set of single lobed leaves. It's sisters (hopefully) were also very slow compared to some Indica and Sativa/Indica hybrids and are half the size of any of the seed started plants. I'm interested to see how yours come out compared to mine. My leaves aren't as narrow as I thought they should be, but they are still young.
Thinking back, in the early 80s there was a Jamaican strain that I believe was Malawi in origin. It was very psychedelic and sometimes could be scary. As I recall, the seeds in it were very small as well, barely larger than a pin head. I'm hoping that I have finally tracked this stuff down. It was almost like pure THC with no CBD/CBN...not relaxing, almost like tripping. We called it "Cartoon Dope" because it affected your vision and perception, making it easy to get lost in thoughts and paranoia.
Good luck and keep a good log, as you seem to be doing. I have considerable exp growing Sativas...feel free to ask anything and I'll be more than happy to help if possible. I don't have any experience using a lot of the newer stuff, having used the same method (somewhat minimalist) for 3 decades. FWIW, I put the seed directly into it's permanent 6 gallon bucket with Promix, wood ashes, composted manure, and 20-20-20 nutrients. I use 1000w mh bulbs for veg and a 1000w mh with extra red and a 1000w HPS bulb for flowering in a 12x8 space with 7' headroom. Take good notes!!
Things are looking good. You can just cut the tops off of the plants, as you found out, but it stalls them and might affect the couple of big colas that you get, but it looks great. The leaves are wider than what I would expect from a Sativa, but I looked at mine and they are pretty much the same. The first few sets of leaves always grows in wider than the regular leaves, so I think we are both OK. I might snap a pic of my 2...the one is getting to be growing nicely, but the one that stalled is 1/3 the size of the larger, and is now getting crowded out of light as I threw a couple seeds in a "catch all" bucket that I put gimpy, slow, or questionable plants in, with 3 plants going in this one. I ran out of room and hate to kill any growing plants, but now I feel bad because it took me so much to get these going and I only have 2...both are unknown male or female.
Keep up the good work. Mine are starting to grow an inch or so a day so I need to concentrate on training them. Sativas are tall and I don't think that photoperiod manipulation or anything else for that matter will cause them to grow compact. I've tried for 30 years and the best I can get is a somewhat shorter plant that grew in bushy compared to the regular shape. The yield wasn't as good, though because the bushy leaves blocked a lot of the bud sites and I got a lot of smaller buds from it. Re-vegging them is the easiest way to get them to grow bushier, maybe combined with your methods it might work out. Despite training as much as I really could, they outgrew the level of my light, Since the bulb is vertical and gives off a lot of side light, the leaves curled downward to get as much light exposure as they could. They were really strange looking and also very sick looking due to the curled leaves, but they were OK because the leaves were seeking the light. It's a lousy picture, but the plants were about 6.5 ft in this picture, about 6" higher than the bulb. They look horrible, but all was well. Getting a plant to grow to a low level light is not difficult, but makes for a really strange looking plant when finished.
Sativa's don't suffer from light penetration issues too much because their lanky frames keeps a lot of space open, plus they grow tall and can support a lot of side growth. I grew some Black Diesel last run and it was great, but it was very short and shrubby, leaving most of the growth on the canopy. I could have increased the yield a little by partially harvesting the canopy and letting the bottom grow a little more, but that only helps a little. I might try some stretching techniques to encourage more side growth. I've never tried Super Cropping, although many techniques, like new strains of plants, are just renamed process. You say fimmed, I say pinched...same process with new or different name. Sativa's can be increased by the careful removal of some of the larger leaves that block light from getting inside. There usually aren't too many leaves to begin with that can cause problems under the main canopy, but keeping direct light on the bud sites is the best way to keep them larger and thicker. Sativa's lower leaf count makes it a lot easier...maybe that is why they seem to grow slower than others at startup from seed...the smaller leaves produce noticeably less energy resulting in slower growth, at least initially.I'm going to be super cropping them into the net next week probably so I can start controlling the height while I fim them another one or two times. From the amount of leaves I've seen from Ace, I don't believe it will be a problem with light penetration thankfully
That's niceDay 12
Coco coir - 860ppm/6.0 ph
Liquid Karma/Pure Blend Pro Hydro/CaliMagic
77-80f Leaf Surface Temp
70-75% RH
16700lux/300 PPFD 3000k Average
12" Light Height
18/6
Admittedly I didn't want to post because I swore had messed up the plants. I fimmed them around day 8 and didn't know to pull back the fan leaves lol.
After fimming them I have a lot of side shoots coming out and the stems are thickening up. Watering them five times a day. They might be getting hungry but I'll wait a bit because they seem to be growing slowly.
That's nice
It looks like something was munching on it pretty good
Oh haha that's a relief to know.plenty of leafs growing to not worry about those.looks good.what size gallon are you planning on finishing in.are you going to veg for long time.im doing mine for three months.first time growingI accidentally cut the fan leaves fimming them
Oh haha that's a relief to know.plenty of leafs growing to not worry about those.looks good.what size gallon are you planning on finishing in.are you going to veg for long time.im doing mine for three months.first time growing
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