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Day 5 flower. Defoliate because Humidity is hard to manage?

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Day 5 flower. Defoliate because Humidity is hard to manage?

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@phxazcraig Please do not post questions or novels in other peoples threads! A group are already working at helping a fellow member!
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My 6 inch on setting 9 is sucking hard from the intake hose and blowing hard out of the exhaust.

Im not understanding about the need for an intake fan if my inline is sucking in hard from the lung room?
Think of the air in your tent like a glass of water. Humidity is like red food coloring. If you add clean water drop by drop, the glass will take forever to clear up. If you run the faucet through it you have a clear glass in 10 seconds. The evil part is the plant is constantly adding drops of food coloring to the glass as you're trying to clear it.
 
FWIW, my grow is a little over a week into flower, and it looks like it may be just starting to stretch. I'm growing 4 plants in coco coir, and about a week ago they just started touching the walls of the tent, about when I flipped from 18 hours to 12 hours of light.

Being in coco and getting fed every 2 hours, the plants are growing like monsters. I've been doing a little pruning of the undergrowth, and I take leaves from the large plants trying to overgrow into the smaller ones. I'd previously topped each plant twice.

During veg I added a humidifier and set humidity to 70%. AC Infinity fan set to go full speed around 80F, and with light on, temp usually 83-85f, humidity 67-70%. Air coming into tent is whatever it is in my house in Phoenix, AZ, which is to say it is pretty dry.

And then the lights go out. Temps drop to an amazing 65F (house is set to 76F), and humidity goes as high as 88%. Leaves are dripping a bit of water where they touch each other.

In the past I've added another vent fan running full time. I've also pruned undergrowth to get better flow. My last two coco crops did this as well.

Overall, I like the temp drop, and I worry a bit about molds and the like, so I'm trying to get the RH down to 60-65%. At this stage in the crop I don't need to add humidity.

I do have a small fan running under the canopy and a second small fan blowing on top of the canopy. I'm a bit surprised at the amount of RH spike at night, considering my 6 inch AC Infinity is running at 100% speed, dumping the tent air into the hallway outside the growing room (upstairs bedroom).

All that humidity is putting moisture on all the leaves, which act like evaporative cooling at night. As the plants stretch, and I continue to prune undergrowth, air flow will naturally increase and drop humidity, and turning my humidifier down during the day should also lower the RH at night, if it is running at all during the day. For sure, in the past week my humidifier has been using almost no water.
I think in a way he was trying to say his situation is a lot worse but it clears up on its own idk? Any time you hit the dew point and have condensation is bad though. That's just asking for bud rot, PM or both.
 
If you can keep your lung room dark for 12 hours try opening up all the screened vents on the bottom to start. That should at least free up your fan to move more cfm.
 
If you can keep your lung room dark for 12 hours try opening up all the screened vents on the bottom to start. That should at least free up your fan to move more cfm.
I cannot keep it ultra dark, but its mostly dark.
I'm not worried by light leaks atm but if I opened the screened vents, I'd worry.

I'm going to see what happens with this humidifier, but I never got your thoughts on the ac infinity hydrone and the ability to place it directly into the tent, plumb it into your tent with one hose or a closed loop system with two.
 
I cannot keep it ultra dark, but its mostly dark.
I'm not worried by light leaks atm but if I opened the screened vents, I'd worry.

I'm going to see what happens with this humidifier, but I never got your thoughts on the ac infinity hydrone and the ability to place it directly into the tent, plumb it into your tent with one hose or a closed loop system with two.
I'm not familiar with that unit but I would encourage trying different things. In my experience a dehumidifier that can keep up with the plants inside a tight space is either to big, expensive, or hot. The answer for me has always been to move more fresh air in quicker. There's a much greater supply in your lung room
 
I'm not familiar with that unit but I would encourage trying different things. In my experience a dehumidifier that can keep up with the plants inside a tight space is either to big, expensive, or hot. The answer for me has always been to move more fresh air in quicker. There's a much greater supply in your lung room
I've just ordered a 6 inch s6 inline fan to put on the intake.
It's coming before the dehumidifier so I'll try it out and see how it performs.
I can always return the dehumidifier unopened if the fan helps.

Should I just put the intake on a low setting compared to exhaust and what RH should i try and get to, entering second week of flower?
 
I've just ordered a 6 inch s6 inline fan to put on the intake.
It's coming before the dehumidifier so I'll try it out and see how it performs.
I can always return the dehumidifier unopened if the fan helps.

Should I just put the intake on a low setting compared to exhaust and what RH should i try and get to, entering second week of flower?
Try exhaust 8 and intake 4 to start. I can't give you a recommendation on humidity unless I know your temperature. You should set your controller for 1.2 kPa VPD so the temp and rh can fluctuate.
 
Try exhaust 8 and intake 4 to start. I can't give you a recommendation on humidity unless I know your temperature. You should set your controller for 1.2 kPa VPD so the temp and rh can fluctuate.
I already have the 6 inch coming today and my current intake hose is 6 inch already.
My 6 inch exhaust has been active for nearly two months so have to stick with that.
Surely this will be ok?

Not sure about the 1.2 vpd setting as I have no control over temp apart from it does not go under 20c and I have an air con unit as mentioned, just incase the weather gets too hot but apart from that I will not be using it.
 
Try exhaust 8 and intake 4 to start. I can't give you a recommendation on humidity unless I know your temperature. You should set your controller for 1.2 kPa VPD so the temp and rh can fluctuate.
The fan has come, hooked it up and tried a few settings.
The best it can do is
intake - 6
Exhaust- 10

Tent Drops from 63Rh to 60Rh and that's it with the new fan and it stinks of weed now.
Lung room dehumidifier states its 45Rh in my lung room.

You can see near the end on the graph where I plug the intake in and humidity drops a bit and temp goes up slightly.
 

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When I said 8 and 4 I meant the settings on the fan not inches. If #5 is your intake on 7 then yeah, you might smell it because that's not much of a difference.

Im more curious now what caused your humidity spike at 10:15 -10:30? Did you turn stuff off to do the installation?

Your lung room air should be cooler than the tent so the rise in temp is likely just displacement as cooler air fills the bottom of the tent and pushes warm air up to the sensor. I see the same response on my system.

Keep both fans on the same setting and try 80°/60% rh for your triggers. Also, your AC infinity dehumidifier can be set to target vpd.
 
When I said 8 and 4 I meant the settings on the fan not inches. If #5 is your intake on 7 then yeah, you might smell it because that's not much of a difference.

Im more curious now what caused your humidity spike at 10:15 -10:30? Did you turn stuff off to do the installation?

Your lung room air should be cooler than the tent so the rise in temp is likely just displacement as cooler air fills the bottom of the tent and pushes warm air up to the sensor. I see the same response on my system.

Keep both fans on the same setting and try 80°/60% rh for your triggers. Also, your AC infinity dehumidifier can be set to target vpd.
I dont have the ac infinity dehumidifier.
Nobody gave opinions on here and ive read so many mixed reviews on it that I ordered another normal compressor dehumidifier for my lung room.

My lung room is a top bedroom that is the hottest and coldest room in the house (summer and winter), unfortunate I know but it is what it is.

You're right about the spike being the installation part.
As the weather heats up, my room will get hot during lights out (9am - 9pm) but if I had had lights on during the day, it would be insane heat in the room.
 
I dont have the ac infinity dehumidifier.
Nobody gave opinions on here and ive read so many mixed reviews on it that I ordered another normal compressor dehumidifier for my lung room.

My lung room is a top bedroom that is the hottest and coldest room in the house (summer and winter), unfortunate I know but it is what it is.

You're right about the spike being the installation part.
As the weather heats up, my room will get hot during lights out (9am - 9pm) but if I had had lights on during the day, it would be insane heat in the room.
Lights on at night saves power cost
 
I dont have the ac infinity dehumidifier.
Nobody gave opinions on here and ive read so many mixed reviews on it that I ordered another normal compressor dehumidifier for my lung room.

My lung room is a top bedroom that is the hottest and coldest room in the house (summer and winter), unfortunate I know but it is what it is.

You're right about the spike being the installation part.
As the weather heats up, my room will get hot during lights out (9am - 9pm) but if I had had lights on during the day, it would be insane heat in the room.
Ok I misunderstood about the dehumidifier. You can still configure the fans to trigger based on vpd settings in the settings page.
If that's confusing stick to the 80°\60%

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Yours are probably set to "auto" now.
 
Ok I misunderstood about the dehumidifier. You can still configure the fans to trigger based on vpd settings in the settings page.
If that's confusing stick to the 80°\60%

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Yours are probably set to "auto" now.
Lmao, the difference between "grown since 95" and "grew in 95" is knowing these goddamn app settings. I still fight with digital dumb light timers.
 
Ok I misunderstood about the dehumidifier. You can still configure the fans to trigger based on vpd settings in the settings page.
If that's confusing stick to the 80°\60%

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Yours are probably set to "auto" now.
I have mine set to on and I adjust a couple of times in the day.

Can you click the vpd and show me what your trigger settings look like
 
I have mine set to on and I adjust a couple of times in the day.

Can you click the vpd and show me what your trigger settings look like
Ok that sheds a lot of light on the situation!

You don't want my settings, I grow outside in a glorified porta potty. 💩

Start simple and switch to auto. Set high temp and RH triggers to 27°/60%. Don't set any low triggers for now. Let the controller do some work for you and you should see improvement.
 
At those settings, even if your RH stays at 59-60% all day, you can go as low as 22.5° and still have a good vpd number.
 
In veg i stayed around 0.8 - 0.1 easily.

Its only now that they are bigger, in flower, drinking more and the outside/inside temperature is fluctuating a lot, that humidity has become an issue, as I'm sure you guys know all about.

I'll research the trigger settings.
Can I stay between 1.2 - 1.4vpd?
I do want humidity as low as I can, but temperature cannot be controlled much.
I've read that you can go very low near end of flower, some go as low as 40% - does that not give a incorrect vpd number?
 

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