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Yeah looks like it will take forever to fill trellis. Summer is coming here. So i have to finish that grow before second week of Jun. So flowering time 9 weeks seedbank says. I still have 2,5-3 weeks before flipping and chop before mid Jun. But i don't think that 3 weeks will be enough to fill 75% of trellis.I only have a little experience with SCROG, but this looks like a strain where you just need a lot more plants to fill the space, no matter what method you use.
I think @TSD is a dedicated SCROG grower. She might be able to guide you on this. But I think it will take forever for this strain/cross to do what you want it to do.
Looks great, BTW.
Yeah i will lolipop them for sure before week or in first week of flowering but very much fan leaves are bigger than hand size and blocking light. But as you mentioned it i don't want to stress them with any wrong move.Regarding the leaf plucking question (if I understand it), one instance where I pluck is if I find transpiration moisture accumulating between leaves. Then I generally pick the lower leaf off. Nice plant, but it looks dense enough to poke around in there and check.
And if you’re referring to a more thorough, systematic defoliation, I’ll let someone with more experience weigh in. I do it with every plant, but I try to be conservative since those are photosynthesis factories.
Thanks for that vote of confidence!I wouldn't call myself an expert scrogger, as I've only done it once, and outdoors, but I'm a beliver now. By the looks of it, that net isn't really doing anything other than sitting there currently... they need to be taller and really manipulated to spread out. That's trelissing, not scrogging. Some strains aren't conducive to scrogging. Here is a link to a true master of the scrog, @CannaGranny has been successfully scrogging for some years now and actually teaches her methods.
CannaGranny Tell All Successful Scrogging
Many of us home/indoor growers have somehow stumbled upon a method known as scrogging. One of the most effective ways to triple your harvest! A successful scrog grower will never revert to free budding. Why would you willingly give up that triple take? I am in year twelve of this process and...www.thcfarmer.com
I would for sure remove anything touching your soil. Holds moisture and provides hiding spots for bugs and powdery mildew. I would then remove any leaf that is shading a Bud spot. Topping at node four would help.Hello all.
Growing God's Glue photos. First photos tho. Used to not defoliate autos. And i can say that first indica experiment for this grow. It's very bushy and wide but very short :) One of them is runt tho. We are in week 5 (day 33 since breaking soil). I am planning to keep them 3 more weeks because i want to fill that trellis as much as i can. I am not sure if i can fill 75% of it because these are not tall plants. Very short and bushy.
So question is should i defoliate or not? Should i do it now or wait til week before than flipping 12/12 ? I was thinking defoliate+lolipop them before flipping but i just want to know some pro thoughts. Thanks.
If more information needed; 18/6 with 1000w hps. Giving them 40-45k lux now. EC 1.2 - 1.4 pH 6.3. Peat soil. Using biocanna rhizo, vega and adding some calmag (1mL for 1LT water). Humidity bit low around 40-45.
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Thank you for coming in. Okay i will defoliate some lower leaves and bigger than hand-size shadowing fan leaves today. About topping.. i never done it before.I would for sure remove anything touching your soil. Holds moisture and provides hiding spots for bugs and powdery mildew. I would then remove any leaf that is shading a Bud spot. Topping at node four would help.
As TSD told you, currently you are trellising those ladies.
I would for sure remove anything touching your soil. Holds moisture and provides hiding spots for bugs and powdery mildew. I would then remove any leaf that is shading a Bud spot. Topping at node four would help.
As TSD told you, currently you are trellising those ladies.
No not at all .topping her will get those side branches growing and that’s what you want seems you are using a net..Thank you for coming in. Okay i will defoliate some lower leaves and bigger than hand-size shadowing fan leaves today. About topping.. i never done it before.
I am currently in week 5 of veg. Is it too late to do topping? I am already at 10th set of leaves so i am over than 4th node.
I still can veg 2 more weeks or max 3 weeks btw. Will be enough to develope and heal itself if i defoliate and top today?
I just defoliated as you can see. But topping them in same day with defolation isn't too much stres for them? Also they already show sex. All female. So i read on some posts if they show sex you can't top them but it was just entry from a random user. I am open for all suggestions.No not at all .topping her will get those side branches growing and that’s what you want seems you are using a net..
They look major dry to me. I always water well the night before a defoil or topping. Water her well and watch.Anyway just defoliated. Removed fan leaves that touching to dirt and some big fan leaves shading bud sites. Just removed almost half of them not all. Here is before and after pics.
Now they look like bit bald to me :D Hope it makes better results.
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This is a scrog. See my poor ladies? Bent, broken, shoved below a table? Pitiful huh?
Next pic, two days later! They have righted themselves and filled my screen with tops. You should see them this morning. View attachment 1341146View attachment 1341147
Thanks! Sounds like a plan. That’s three plants in my five by five. Topping and defoil is not so stressful to them, they get this in nature all of the time. What is stressful to them is under watering, overwatering, under feeding , over feeding, light burn and light penetration in hours of darkness.Nice one. My goal was something like that but i am growing photos first time so next time i will top them earlier and pick better genetics.
I watered them 4 days before with 5 liters of water (pot is 20L) and get 1 liter run off. They don't drink much.
Normally i water them with pot lifting method. If it's very light i am watering but this ladies don't really drink much. Today before defoliation i pick them up to see if they drank well but pot was still heavy.
There is really nice grow rate when i compare day by day pics. But not taller just wider and nodes are very very tight.
Okay few days more after defoliation shock i will top them and give 2 weeks more veg then flip to 12/12.
This run i think i shouldn't expect something good. But next time i will go for 6-7 plants for sure. 3 is very less for 5x5 and genetics are bad i think..
Defoliated and topped. They was seems so bald after defolation and now not even week later, they are BUSHY af again. Also topping made sides EXPLODE. I took trellis off and bend them so bad. But wow they are really exploding so bad. I will defoliate next week again. Because smaller leaves are being huge just in 24 hours!Thanks! Sounds like a plan. That’s three plants in my five by five. Topping and defoil is not so stressful to them, they get this in nature all of the time. What is stressful to them is under watering, overwatering, under feeding , over feeding, light burn and light penetration in hours of darkness.
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