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This explains the full pecentages of Nuke em , “top secret “ my asshole
On further reading I got this: from Nes at : https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=291721
Can we talk about Nuke em for a minute?
I keep hearing good things about nuke em, but I have yet to try it. People say it works for mites and mildew without all the nasty. Some folks say it works on Broad mites, though flying skulls recommends using Z7 with it for BM. I've also heard of people overduing it and stressing their plants with it.
When I first saw the product in the hydro store, the manufacturer listed the active ingredient as citric acid, with yeast and potassium sorbate as inert ingredients. In fact, it's still listed this way on the flying skulls website.
However, if you looks at the other distributors of it elsewhere, ones who actually explain a bit of its "multiple" modes of action, they list potassium sorbate as the active ingredient, with citric acid and yeast as inert
The EPa and USDa requires pesticide producers label as 'active' the ingredient they claim to be the working one. When I asked the local hydro store guy about this, he told me the flying skulls sales rep was pretty vague and didn't seem to want people to know just how it works. My friends in the dept of ag-organics program tell me pesticide producers could potentially get arround requirements to label ingredients as "active" by not advertising them to be.
So does Nuke em work? If so, what makes it work and how? What are its modes of action? and why is it so damn expensive?
The ingredients are listed by weight, so lets brake down a gallon of Nuke em.
1 gallon of water is 3780 grams, so
0.05% citric acid comes out to 1.89 grams per gallon.
9.43% yeast is 0.7858lbs per gallon
0.02% of potassium Sorbate is 0.756 grams ger gallon.
Even at the hydro stop, I get 1.6lb of citric acid cystals of 16$, so if my math is right, 1.89 grams is 4 cents worth of citric acid.
Brewer's yeast is about 7$/lb so 0.7858lb of yeast comes out to $5.50
I found potassium sorbate @ $18.50/lb (shiping included) on google. If my math is right again, that 0.756 grams costs 3 cents.
$0.04
$5.50
$0.03
$5.57 of active and inactive ingredients in a gallon of concentrate that retails for $55!
Of course that cost doesn't take into account labor, packaging, distribution and overhead on the manufacturing facility, but unless there is something missing here, this seems like an easy recipe to replicate.
Do anny of y'all have any thoughts on this product?
am I missing something here?
Feel free to share your experiences with Nuke em, success and failures!
EDIT: I looked a bit closer at the second label and noticed "Nuke em is not registered with the US Federal Environmental Protection Agency. Its formula qualifies for exemption under FIFRA section 25 (b) as a minimum risk pesticide. "
This may be why they can change their label's active ingredient claims.”
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i’m Buying rest of stuff and I will def report with my “beta” version
FUCK PAYING $400 for 2.5 a gal when it’s 8 fl a gal rate
I am trying to just make a natural eczematic cleaner as I’ve literally spend thousands with a company who does and it literally works for everything including as a pesticide. Upon trying to make my own I’m not doing something right which is what lead me to google. Lol Actually your measurements sound really accurate. The ingredients listed on the side of the bottle of The commercial bottle say 0.65% citric acid and 99.35% water, yeast and potassium sorbate. I’m not trying to add in the other ingredient. But wholeheartedly agree that if we can figure out how to put them together will save a bundle. I initially began using their cleaner as a pesticide as I got bird mites from nests that were on the roof of a town house I moved into and it worked wonders! It works by dissolving the putter shell of any pest I found even on roaches in a friends apartment. I’ll let u know of any updates I run into while playing with it and then maybe u just will have to figure out your last ingredient if u haven’t already!Flying Skull Nuke em: hate em or Love em . It’s still good defense stuff for as a addition since no one should use same spray every time .
well I was thinking : $400 for 2.5 gal for citric acid pesticide ? Fuck them! ( so many of the companies use same brews , close enough ;))
So If we could figure out the ratios and just buy the bulk and just be it our self it will save all of us a million . Won’t even prolly be hard :)
LETS FIGURE IT OUT ( I suck at measurements , that’s why I’m here )
* question is what yeast do I need to use and what percentage (everything in Inert Ingredients besides water lol)
Active Ingredients
Citric acid 0.05%
Inert Ingredients
Water, Yeast (Enzymes), Potassium Salts of Fatty Acids,
Sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate
Total: 100.00%
Thanks
Do you use this in flower for mites ect? I've been turned on to D-limonene recently but was not sure at what rate to dilute it and/or how to mix it with water so as not to burn plants. I'm a commercial grower looking to move away from the name brand products that are extremely pricey when you're spraying 5-10,000ft2 of facility. And looking for the RIGHT product for spot treating in late flower leaving zero residue.
Do you use this in flower for mites ect? I've been turned on to D-limonene recently but was not sure at what rate to dilute it and/or how to mix it with water so as not to burn plants. I'm a commercial grower looking to move away from the name brand products that are extremely pricey when you're spraying 5-10,000ft2 of facility. And looking for the RIGHT product for spot treating in late flower leaving zero residue.
I talked to the owner at Orange Guard and he swears it's basically the cure all for bugs as a killer and deterrent. but his product is $$$ and already diluted.
Your thoughts?
Thanks man, I know how to dilute Orange Guard, i meant on the pure orange oil you posted. How are you diluting that? Buying pure orange oil would be much more cost effective on a commercial scale. Just want to make sure I'm mixing it right. Do you do anything special to dissolve it into the water?Check the label- 5.8% limonene, 0.46 lb./ gallon. Dillute 6-8 parts water to 1 part Orange guard.
@Organikz How are you diluting this to spray on plants? Are you using this as a standalone miticide/fungicide?
Hi. I'm mixing some of your recipe up. Question: Would this already be diluted and ready to go? Or does it need to be diluted? Thanks in advance for your opinion!Yikes! I forgot that Nuke'Em has to be diluted as well!
So use 1g yeast and only 0.4ml lemon juice per L of solution! (I can't edit my post)
Thanks man, I know how to dilute Orange Guard, i meant on the pure orange oil you posted. How are you diluting that? Buying pure orange oil would be much more cost effective on a commercial scale. Just want to make sure I'm mixing it right. Do you do anything special to dissolve it into the water?
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