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easy to do yourself_ these dogs that act this way have no respect for the handler/owner..basic obedience training hands on with you and the dog should be your first step. even if you send them to a trainer that still does very little if they dont respect the handler/owner when at home..they will continue to actup unless you stand firm and learn to show control and that you are the pack leader not them.
easy to do yourself_ these dogs that act this way have no respect for the handler/owner..basic obedience training hands on with you and the dog should be your first step. even if you send them to a trainer that still does very little if they dont respect the handler/owner when at home..they will continue to actup unless you stand firm and learn to show control and that you are the pack leader not them.
Is it safe to assume these dogs have all their sexual organs? I've always had the greatest difficulties with intact animals. The female I own right now was spayed when she was 6mo and she still displays territoriality and aggressive behavior towards other dogs. Fortunately, she's afraid of pissing me off.
Maybe you can contact your old trainer to ask for a referral.
The only expert dog trainer I know is in Michigan and she specializes in Belgian somethings and GSDs, she's a former K9 officer who still keeps and trains her own animals. I would have to assume that the trainers she knows personally would similarly be K9 handlers.
Google working dog forums you can probably find a trainer that will specialize in what your looking for if the guys in pueblo cant help you. If you don't mind me asking what kind of aggression are you dealing with?
I have competed in dog agility for a number of years and know several trainers. I will ping them to see if they know anyone who specializes in aggressive dogs/breeds and let you know if they come back with anything worthwhile. :)
And Sea Maiden is absolutely right about intact dogs/bitches. Those hormones make everything harder to manage. Unless you've got a breeding program, no need to keep that stuff. :)
xxoo
Mel
I am a local dominant breed specialist (not Co though) this guy nails it. You may need some help from a professional still if the aggresion is directed to the handler. 99% of dog issues cone from an unbalaced pack (sound like Cesar? Cause its true) I've had pits for 15+ years, it all comes down to pack respect. PM me for specifics, ill ask around for a CO guy/gal for ya. Oh ya, Leerburg Kennels might point ya right. Cant remember, ohio i think but super connectedHe is renowned. Leerburg.com
start here maybe. Ed is fa real!
I agree, except the "easy to do yourself" part, this is not necessarily true. My 6 yo male apbt knows he's not allowed to fight other dogs that challenge him, even though he REALLY wants to, and will actually tolerate other dog's aggression for a short period of time which allows me to intervene before a fight breaks out... but I can't for the life of me get him to walk calmly and right by my side on a leash. Neither can anyone else, even experienced trainers. An e-collar works for a short period of time, but I typically only use the e-collar to keep him from chasing wildlife when he's off-leash. So, I think some dogs do have behavior that is very difficult to modify, even if they think you are alpha... and I can guarantee my dog does see me as the pack leader. The issue is more like he gets fixated on something and forgets he is on a leash.
Anyway, good luck selfhemp! You might want to try an e-collar, they really aren't that painful when used properly (I've tried it on myself), but they will get the dog's attention!
I know there are tons of dog owners on here, I also own two dogs, two BIG dogs and am having major aggression issues with my female.
Can anyone recommend a GREAT dog trainer in Colorado that specializes or is very experienced with dealing with aggression?
I'm probably not the only one that could use some help with my dogs ; )
(I know this is a canna forum and by all means mods if you don't like it delete it. But there are a ton of dog owners in here and I figured this would be a good place to ask)
was just wondering...what kind of dogs are they....or did i miss it...thanks man
ncm
i've always had 'working' dogs and i can say from experience that they NEED to be worked. living in a city, i will put a backpack on them and fill it with books so they have to work that much harder on a walk. did you socialize your dogs when they were younger? i've found that to be key. i am an avid runner, and my dogs run with me....sometimes with the fkn backpack! a tired dog is a good dog. hope that helps, but still look into a trainer...they will see what it is that you're missing. good luck and you CAN teach an old dog new tricks....here's a little shot of my current project. he's the younger of my two pups
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or are people just not asking...i will...what kind of dogs are these.???? just wondering....i just beat the shit out of my dogs....and they are stupid as can be....maybe cause of the baseball bat to t he head when they shit on the floor...so i shot them in there dick and they stopped pissing but they shit all over the place....
ok ok..just kidding....not even funny....okok...pet people...damn...I WAS JUST KIDDING....
was just wondering...what kind of dogs are they....or did i miss it...thanks man
ncm
i've always had 'working' dogs and i can say from experience that they NEED to be worked. living in a city, i will put a backpack on them and fill it with books so they have to work that much harder on a walk. did you socialize your dogs when they were younger? i've found that to be key. i am an avid runner, and my dogs run with me....sometimes with the fkn backpack! a tired dog is a good dog. hope that helps, but still look into a trainer...they will see what it is that you're missing. good luck and you CAN teach an old dog new tricks....here's a little shot of my current project. he's the younger of my two pups
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Well said! And rep+1 as a good Leader!
The reason most people aren't concerned with breed sooo much is a dog is a dog as far as aggression is concerned. Some breeds are more prone to agg. tendencies ( lap dogs, herding breeds, shephards, malanois, SOME lines of Bully breeds, etc.) BUT a pack oriented species follows pack law 99%+/-.
A little history/rant to see the lack of value in breed for a general diagnosis on aggression. But we would not go as far as to try and "walk them them through it".
Even though an APBT is more powerful than most, by genetics a well trained bully (bull terrier, pit bull, am staff) will carry less % of aggression and are less likely to bite or become vicious unprevoked than MOST breeds. They [APBT] are one of the most tempernment stable lines out there. (Look here for info: http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/) this doesn't mean less aggression, just, like Popeye, "I am what I am, and thats all that I am!" Once trained for better or worse, that is what you will have, they don't waver.
This is because, over centuries, these were combat/companion and LASTLY protection (thats natural in canine pack order). A gladiator dog was not treated how you hear on the news! A REAL Dogman of past was there in battle as well as nursing each other back to health. In a "REAL" pitfight there are three people and two dogs in a confined space. One "ref" and two handlers, the dogs fight, the Dogman/handler was there for the protection of his dog not the lining of his pocket! (I do not fight and do not condone it FUCK ABUSERS OF ALL KINDS!) If a dog has lost or gives up or a round time is called, combat is ceased. THE DOG CANNOT, CANNOT TURN ON HANDLERS OR REFS this would be dire and swift! The dog must keep its wits during combat or it becomes a liability, so would be culled out and its aggressive genes are gone too. Over centuries this has made some lines of Pits Grand Champ yet can be stolen with a happy face and a promise of a ride in the back of the truck. Really! People buy German Shephards and Belgian Malanois to protect Pit Kennels. With good temperament can come vulnerability. And the better the dog the less likely to run into aggression issues.
***With that said, with the influx of people with bad intentions and bad breeding practices, this % is swinging quickly!! Breeding for standard, looks, etc. before temperament AND As people breed for aggression instead of protection the offspring becomes unreliable and unpredictable. Who wants a machine gun with an unpredictable hair trigger? ***
Treat the species first: its a dog, this keeps it simple. The trainer himself will address the breed.
If it was a question of running off, or peeing/shitting in the house the answer is simple, lack o training, 99% of the time. Like a beagle its your job to get on a horse with a red jacket and a horn and do a fox hunt. If not he's not fulfilled he's gonna act out and that is your fault. If hee pees/poops inside its a lack of guidance/supervision/training so shoot yourself in the junk! If he's fulfilled and balanced then 99% of the time it is simple, PACK STRUCTURE. That's the illusion, that's why "trainers" actually make $, people lack pack order. And have no clue how to establish it so we beat our dogs and yell at them etc. that is NOT ORDER!
I try to diagnose the issue and even remedy the issue before even asking, when I get stumped I may ask, is this a bird dog? Or its a terrier isn't it! Because of the nuance or the jist. It, I believe is more natural because dogs don't address breed difference, if they did we would have to explain to Guido the Chiuahua to quit attacking Tinkerbell the Great Dane. And feral dogs would pick teams.
Sorry bit your post seems ignorant, I know its meant as a joke but still idiotic.
Dog on dog aggression is the hardest to break, it goes beyond the pack mentality. Pack mentality also goes beyond training your dog to sit before going outside, eating, etc. It also has to do with your own energy and how you carry yourself.
Instead of asking a bunch of dog owners on a stoner forum for advice, why don't you ask a bunch of stoners on a dog forum for advice?
http://www.loveofthedog.com/forum.php
Dog on dog aggression is the hardest to break, it goes beyond the pack mentality. Pack mentality also goes beyond training your dog to sit before going outside, eating, etc. It also has to do with your own energy and how you carry yourself.
Instead of asking a bunch of dog owners on a stoner forum for advice, why don't you ask a bunch of stoners on a dog forum for advice?
http://www.loveofthedog.com/forum.php
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