Doing too much?

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

Hi all. I'm on my 4th run using a coco perilite mix in 3 gal pots. 5 week veg 8 week flower larry og. I use a&b,vitamin b,sweet,enzyme,cal mag,big bud,carbo load,humid acid,bud blood, and overdrive. Obviously in the correct weeks and measurements. Also insect frass and guano on top of coco to leech in when watering and feeding. 12 plants under 1000 and 400. My question is am I wasting effort with all the added nutes? Getting 1.5 from this setup but always looking for more . New to this forum. Any input is greatly appreciated.

mastacheeser · Oct 26, 2013

If your getting 1.5 I'd be hesitant to change much

Personally I'd look into doing some teas, and then drop down to a+b, enzyme, big bud, overdrive and either carboload or sweet

Add some kelp and fish and your doing pretty much what I'm doing

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

Forgot to add the kelp. What teas do you use? Your own recipe or a certain brand? I'm thinking of doing some foliar feeding but not sure. I'm scared of burning them. Co2 may be my answer for a better yeild.

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

And thanks for the info btw.

mastacheeser · Oct 26, 2013

Just using the Dr earth stuff now. I kinda just use what's easy to get. Was using the general organics liquid kelp before the Dr earth stuff.

Or you can use liquid karma if you want kelp plus a bunch of other goodies

It sounds like your shits dialed in, def pull the trigger on the co2

Ps we love nug porn around here

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

Ya. I'm in week one of flower. As soon as the girls have some photo worthy curves ill post some. Do you need to up the nutes with co2? I hear they eat more.

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

This is week one of flowering. Not much to look at yet. Ill try to do weekly updates.

mastacheeser · Oct 26, 2013

I didn't notice much, but I've always ran it, and I hand water so I think it would be hard for me to notice

The cap controllers are half price on discount hydros website. But they are going out of business so its kinda a roll of the dice. Mines currently going 3 yrs strong

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

Thanks man! I'm gonna order one for overnight shipping if possible. Probably the safest if they are going under. I want to get some co2 going now so I can see the difference for the whole flower.

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

Also what ppm do you run. I've heard anywhere from 1000-1500 during flower.for the co2

GR33NL3AF · Oct 26, 2013

Urbngrnthmb said:
Also what ppm do you run. I've heard anywhere from 1000-1500 during flower.for the co2

Honestly you're a little late. CO2 is more beneficial in veg, I doubt you will see much of a difference. However if you do buy one you need to be running Canopy temps around 80F and RH between 60-70%.

Is Larry the only strain you've ran? That would be the reason you're stuck at 1.5 per. Your nutrient regimen seems legit (though I cut out almost ALL of the additives), so if you have a dialed climate and add CO2 your yield should certainly increase, as well decrease your veg time.

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 26, 2013

Good to know on the canopy temps and RH. I've ran pre 98 bubs and la con. I have some sfv cuts that are just rooting. Gonna run those next

Trend · Oct 27, 2013

Ditch the top dressing. Back off carbo load and use sweet sparingly. I predict 1.75 instantly

Urbngrnthmb · Oct 30, 2013

Back off carbo load as in stop using it or just cut down? Got co2 running yesterday turned ac up to 78 and humidity is at 55-60. Hope to see an increase at the end of this.

ttystikk · Oct 30, 2013

Allow temps at plant leaves to get to mid 80s, push 1500 ppm of CO², do this through week four, then taper off to nothing added by flush. Your plants will:
Grow faster, so be ready to feed more
Grow larger, so be ready to give them room
Mature more quickly, so watch the plants for your cues and not the old calendar
Usually more maturity means better flavor, better cannabinoid profiles
Your plants could easily mature a full week earlier

Puscifer · Nov 2, 2013

Urbngrnthmb said:
Hi all. I'm on my 4th run using a coco perilite mix in 3 gal pots. 5 week veg 8 week flower larry og. I use a&b,vitamin b,sweet,enzyme,cal mag,big bud,carbo load,humid acid,bud blood, and overdrive. Obviously in the correct weeks and measurements. Also insect frass and guano on top of coco to leech in when watering and feeding. 12 plants under 1000 and 400. My question is am I wasting effort with all the added nutes? Getting 1.5 from this setup but always looking for more . New to this forum. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Only you can determine whether or not you're wasting effort with all the added nutrients but I will say that you can pull an equal harvest by just using the A&B, Cal/mag and a bloom booster.
Honestly, you should be yielding more with that amount of wattage and pots size. What's your environment like?

Urbngrnthmb · Nov 2, 2013

78 deg and 50-60% humidity. Plenty of fresh air ( before. It's sealed and pumping 1500 ppm co2 now). Never drops below 70 and never gets over 83. Pretty perfect environment I would think. I up the nutes a lil at a time until I see slight burn at the tips and back it off. They are always happy and praying when the lights are on. Runoff is at 6.2 so not any ph problems.

Urbngrnthmb · Nov 3, 2013

This is what I mean by slight burn at the tips.

Urbngrnthmb · Nov 3, 2013

"Just using the Dr earth stuff now. I kinda just use what's easy to get. Was using the general organics liquid kelp before the Dr earth stuff.

Or you can use liquid karma if you want kelp plus a bunch of other goodies

It sounds like your shits dialed in, def pull the trigger on the co2

Ps we love nug porn around here"

Here's pic after 1st week of flower.

los0420 · Nov 4, 2013

GR33NL3AF said:
Honestly you're a little late. CO2 is more beneficial in veg, I doubt you will see much of a difference. However if you do buy one you need to be running Canopy temps around 80F and RH between 60-70%.

Is Larry the only strain you've ran? That would be the reason you're stuck at 1.5 per. Your nutrient regimen seems legit (though I cut out almost ALL of the additives), so if you have a dialed climate and add CO2 your yield should certainly increase, as well decrease your veg time.

CO2 is def not more beneficial in veg,and it will help in bloom cycle no matter what week you add it,most growers only use co2 during bud cycle ,you def don't grow or have never used co2
Just cause of this statement I wouldn't listen to much of your advise do some research before you start giving people advice

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