Dry Ice Curing

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ReadySetGrowD9

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Does anyone have any experiance with this method???

Here is what i have read on it:

Dry Ice

Many homegrowers have written to us that the dry-ice cure increases the potency of marijuana considerably, and we would be remiss not to mention it.
Dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide. When it melts (sublimates), it turns from a solid directly into a gas. This gas absorbs some moisture from the frozen marijuana and partially dries it.
There are many variations of the dry-ice method. Fresh or partially dried material is usually used, although some enthusiasts claim that the cure also works with dried material. The marijuana is placed in a coffee can or similar container with a lid, along with at least an equal volume of dry ice. Puncture the lid so that the gas can escape as it evaporates. Place the can in a freezer to prolong the evaporation process. When the dry ice is gone, the grass is dried, but still moist.
Some growers claim that simply freezing the grass increases potency. They often freeze fan leaves or other less-potent material for a couple of months before smoking it. This is said to work only with fresh (wet or dried) grass.
 
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ReadySetGrowD9

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Really im shocked no one on here has even attenpted this???...... i guess i will be the 1st.... lol
 
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sounds like bullshit to me. nothing about what is happening at that phase seems like it would be affected positively by co2 nor does it seem like this would increase potency. this makes no sense to me i wouldn't try it with my bud but if you are so inclined please provide honest feedback of the outcome.
 
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ReadySetGrowD9

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honestly it sounds like bs to me too but its peaked my curiousity so HONEST feedback is what u will get trust me if it sucks i will def let everyone know so no one else has to waste there time/bud.....

Im goin to give it a shot on a really small scale maybe an oz or 2 the most and compare it to jar curing..... i have to say it would be reallly k0ol if it works though lol
 
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Quick google search and a little cut and paste save my fingers. LOL

DRY ICE CURE (FREEZER DRYING) ALL U NEED TO KNOW!!
- What is Dry Ice? "Dry Ice" is frozen Carbon Dioxide. CO2 will change from its solid, frozen state to its gaseous state without passing through a liquid state - hence it’s name ‘dry ice’. This process of solid changing to gas is known as sublimation. What is Sublimation? Sublimation is a simple process which depends on the fact that the surface of a frozen solid is actually quite active at the molecular level. In the case of water ice, water molecules are constantly leaving and binding to the frozen surface. In a moist atmosphere, more water molecules bind to the surface than leave, and ice grows on the surface (e.g frost inside your freezer). In a dry atmosphere however, more water molecules leave the frozen surface than adhere, so the solid dries out. The same process occurs with Dry Ice. As there is a fairly low CO2 content in air, the dry ice sublimes away completely, leaving no residue or liquid - hence its name. What is Freeze Drying? Freeze drying (scientific name: Lyophilization) depends upon the process of sublimation (explained below), and on the fact that like CO2, frozen water at low temperature will go through the process of sublimation under the right conditions. Dry ice has a very low water content, as it is made up of almost pure CO2. In theory it IS pure, but even from a lab suppliers, it will have a small amount of impurities - these do not matter for our purposes. In effect the dry ice vapour has near zero relative humidity. Now: (this is the important bit) When material containing water is placed into this almost zero humidity environment, the water molecules are drawn out of the material and into the CO2, raising the relative humidity of the CO2 and lowering the water content of the material. If the CO2 around the material is steadily replenished then the process will continue until all moisture has been removed from the material. All this happens at low temperatures, below the freezing point of water, which means that the material is preserved in a totally ‘fresh’ state. How Do I Freeze Dry Grass? Use a container (I use a Tupperware box) that is twice as big as the volume of grass you wish to dry. Make a few small holes in the lid, to allow the gas to escape. Put equal volumes of bud and dry ice inside, loosely packed, with the dry ice underneath the bud. Put the lid on and make sure it is properly sealed so that the only way for gas to escape is through the holes in the lid. Put the box into a freezer, lid upwards. This is to keep the material as cold as possible, prolonging the sublimation process for as long as possible. The dry ice will begin to sublime pushing all air out of the box and surrounding your buds with bone dry co2. The totally dry atmosphere will begin drawing water molecules out of the plant material. Check the tub after 24 hours and then every 24 hours until the dry ice has all gone. When the ice is all gone -the buds should be completely dry and smokeable. If you find that they are not quite dry then put some more dry ice into the box, place the lot back in the freezer and wait until they are done. Can I use a fridge? You could use a fridge instead of a freezer, but the dry ice would evaporate very quickly so you'd need a lot more of it to dry the buds, hence the expense would rise rapidly. Better would be to use a ‘cool box’ - one of the plastic insulated boxes for food storage when camping. Again - make sure that there are holes so that the gas can escape. Do I need to prepare the buds? It's better to partially dry the buds so that they are nearly dry, then finish them off with dry ice. If you use fresh, wet grass then you can expect the process to take much longer and to use more dry ice, pushing the cost up. I find that using partially dry buds in a freezer the dry ice has gone after about 48 hrs. What I do is give them a week of slow dry, then manicure, THEN freeze dry them. What are the advantages? The advantages of this method are increased potency and a 'fresher' taste. As the material is preserved in a totally ‘fresh’ state, the THC glands suffer as little degredation from heat, light and air as is possible. No other drying process preserves the resin glands is such a fresh state as can be achieved with freeze drying. Why should I freeze dry? Freeze drying is good if you plan to freeze your bud anyway. If you don't want to keep it in the freezer then there isn't a lot to be gained by using the technique, as the 'fresh' thc will rapidly degrade as usual once outside the freezer. Where Can I get Dry Ice? You can get dry ice from most lab suppliers (expensive) but many industrial ice houses or ice cream suppliers sell it for considerably less (preferred option) Just try the yellow pages. My Opinion Based on Experience To be honest, In my experience the dry ice cure is a lot of trouble for little benefit, as the final taste isn't as good as you can get by slow drying and glass jar curing. Generally it's greener tasting and somewhat 'minty' due to the remaining chlorophyll. Strangely enough, some people like this minty taste and associate it with strength. (weird, I know - but they do.) Does it really increase potency? I have tried comparison by using a control sample, and freeze drying definitely seems to give you a slightly ‘higher’ hit with a ‘mintier’ taste than the jar cure, but the overall strength didn't seem hugely different. It's a connoisseur smoke, perhaps. In a blind test at a party with about thirty people involved it came out about evenly split as to which was the strongest, but that was a subjective test, and was only conducted in a very stoned manner! According to The Frank & Rosenthal Guide, anecdotal evidence suggests that freezing improves potency, which is why I got into the process in the first place. I'm not convinced either way, but it was a fun technique to play with for a while.


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In essence. Not worth it. It drys fresh buds to fast and leaves alot of chlorophyl in the plant matter. But still interesting.
 
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ReadySetGrowD9

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thats the same thing i read when i found out about this method lol...... i was goin to dry the buds first and they cure this way and not use this method for drying and curing the fresh herb since im not a fan or smoking chlorophyl lol.... thanks for the insite bro :)
 
Curb Feeler

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For less odor and the perfect cure, use a working fridge with a circulation fan inside. You can just shut the fan cord in the door, should still seal well enough.


A fridge slowly dries your bud in a cold environment that keeps very fragile oils intact for amazing aroma. Once your buds are near fully dry, remove them to a glass jar.


You will be shocked at how well this cold cure method works.



Yer welcome ;)
 
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For less odor and the perfect cure, use a working fridge with a circulation fan inside. You can just shut the fan cord in the door, should still seal well enough.


A fridge slowly dries your bud in a cold environment that keeps very fragile oils intact for amazing aroma. Once your buds are near fully dry, remove them to a glass jar.


You will be shocked at how well this cold cure method works.



Yer welcome ;)


Got anymore details for us? How long etc...

Readyset: if you do the shit will you post results?? Intrested for real.
 
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ReadySetGrowD9

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Thanks Curb sounds like a cool idea......

Dextro: i am definatly goin to try it as an experiment just so i can post it up so everyone knows what the deal is with this method....

RSGD9
 
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The curing process uses oxygen to break down things like chlorophyll and sugars and leftover nutes. Freeze drying them will only leave them in the buds making for relatively harsher buds, compared tonormal curing, because of thet lack of oxygen Although, i do see the benefit in a quick, odorless cure, but you must be careful, as freezing buds will cause the trichs to fall off more easily, like when making ice extracted bubble hash

Let us know how the experiment goes, would love to see a comparison!
 
Curb Feeler

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Not much more to add about the fridge dry/cure. It will take a couple weeks before your stuff is dry enough to store in glass, but regular drying takes that long anyway.

You should still check it for moisture content and stir up the bud occasionally to make sure they are drying evenly.


The fridge works great. Most people who have tried it were very impressed and continue to dry that way currently.

Here is a writeup about the process a good friend of mine wrote:

After being severely disappointed one night by the crusty state of some cheese that I wanted to involve in a late night cheese-and-crackers binge, I realized that referigerators are dessication apparatuses! Yay!

What you'll need:
1 large working fridge with wire racks. If no wire racks, make them from hardware cloth or something.
1 small circulation fan ~6 inch

Process:
Trim buds as usual, lay them out in one layer on each rack, not stacked or touching too much. Hang others for efficient space use.
Place the fan in the bottom of the fridge pointing up and turn on low-medium power.
Set the fridge on a nice medium-cold temp. The fan itself will create some heat, so you'll need to adjust the fridge to find your sweet spot. You want a normal fridge temp for best aroma. Close the reefer full of reefer. The seal will envelop the fan cord nicely.

Try not to open more than once a day (yeah right) as this lets new humid air in, slowing the dessication process. Turn the buds once a day or so, to make sure they dry evenly and don't mold.

Depending on fan speed, fridge temp, and amount of herb, the flowers will be crunchy in about 1-3 weeks. The stems will still be very flexible and wet, moreso than in normal room temp drying.

When the nugs are at this stage, turn the fan off to let the stem moisture sweat out into the flowers for a day or two with the fridge still on. Then turn the fan back on for a couple days to get the nugs to the point of being crunchy but with flexible (neither wet nor stiff) stems.
note: This is techincally cold drying, but cold curing had a better ring to it :(

Now you can remove your nugs and cure them in glass jars as normal i.e. opening them daily to smell and allow sweated moisture out.

Why do this?:
1.) All those sensitive, very volatile oils that give the light, perfumy aromas of fresh bud are largely lost with room temp drying. With this method, they are locked into the bud as the temps are too low for them to volatilize much. The result is unparalleled aroma.
2.) Locking all the smell in means this process is way on the downlow. IOW, your house/apartment doesn't smell like a bunch of skunks are ass fucking each other in a kiddie pool full of tropical fruit. Instead, that's what your bud smells like when you open the jars.


Enjoy!
 
Mr. Greengenes

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I can concurr that the freezer drying method works great, I've done it many times. It does preserve some chlorophyll taste, but also other more desirable ones that you might not detect with air drying.

A friend showed me years ago that the freezer can also be used alternatively with (gasp) the microwave to quick dry buds to a very acceptable quality. Run the wave for only 5-7 seconds and then (before it gets steaming hot) pop it directly in the (self defrosting) freezer. After a few minutes in the freezer it's back in the wave, then back in the freezer, etc. Takes some practice, but if you've ever been stuck looking at that juicy plant with nothing to smoke, it's worth a try.
 
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i saw a video about that once it was a pritty old show cant remember the name as was along time ago and the blokes showd u how they do it,,, and they all said it dun absolutly jack shit wast of time. acualy i think its called ACAPOCO GOLD very interesting move. duno about my spelling it could be accopoco gold
 

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