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He don’t give a f - troller Bitchin - seems to complain a lot - like ya said he’s not wrong ! Just an ass about it as usualYou aren't wrong but you may want to tone it down a bit if you want to get people to align to your type of thinking. Some people have only had store bought peppers.
He don’t give a f - troller Bitchin - seems to complain a lot - like ya said he’s not wrong ! Just an ass about it as usual
Well when you say organic there are two sides to it. The organic industry which is DIRTY AF but there is another side to organics which must be done on small scale and and that is the one I assumed he was talking about. Have you been to the grocery store and tasted the vegetables and fruit? How about a dispensary?But he is wrong. He doesnt actually know what he’s talking about. He just parrots some organic bullshit bro science.
Well when you say organic there are two sides to it. The organic industry which is DIRTY AF but there is another side to organics which must be done on small scale and and that is the one I assumed he was talking about. Have you been to the grocery store and tasted the vegetables and fruit? How about a dispensary?
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Kids hate vegetables because their worthless parents feed them chemical mersh shit. I can't buy out-of-season bell peppers, they are hydroponic and taste like chemicals, not peppers.
And soon aging dying suffering parents will hate their kids for trying to smoke them out on chemical mersh shit everyone's growing. That's one thing I managed to apologize for and to each my kids..
What's your contribution to the future? To stick a blue ribbon on a jar of poison? Contribute to the pharmaceutical industry who makes money off poor health exclusively? Or are you willing to tell these Botanicare babies to take a long rental scooter session off a short dock?
The 2 biggest things to get used to when we moved from our little Michigan town- 1 locking my car doors and takin my keys ! Loli am aware what over and underfed/supplemented produce and weed tastes like yes. We are fortunate to live in a farm area and most of our meat and veggies from the privately owned supermarkets here are local or at least picked at market by people who care. The difference at a bigger box typestore can be very apparent.
read around for his comments and see why i said what i said. He knows what hes doing cherry picking narrow info and spewing it all over our forum including insults in every post.
the dispensary must have hurt him real bad. ;-)
There is nothing quite like a born again vegan or militant organics proponent. To be clear, I'm mostly an outdoor grower, just getting back into indoor growing after 10 years. I love all the various organics systems, true living soil, Korean natural farming, etc. I've always found my outdoor buds had a flavor edge over indoor, regardless of whether i used mineral salts or organics to grow them. Like Aqua Man said, I attribute that to the microbiome, which has a massive influence on quantity, and quality. The downside to organics are the high heavy metal content of MANY organic amendments. People love Earth Juice and Nectar for the Gods and think they're growing something "pure" but go ahead and look up the arsenic and cadmium content of their various products: https://apps1.cdfa.ca.gov/fertilizerproducts/. On the opposite side, while you're at it look up GH Maxibloom. Don't get me wrong, MANY mineral salt based nutes are high in arsenic and cadmium-I use GH because they seek out untainted raw materials and don't even brag about it. The Flora, Flora Nova, and Maxi series are all have "undetectable" levels of arsenic and cadmium. Those are two things that ACTUALLY cause cancer, major organ damage, etc....not some mystical "chemical fertilizers" that don't exist in the final product.
My buds are CLEANER than most organic buds in terms of heavy metals, and I don't use any kind of chemical pesticides or pgrs. It's easy to cultivate a rich microbiome even with mineral salt based nutes if you keep the EC low-there are dozens of studies on the subject. Likewise, a rich microbiome reduces the need for a high EC due to better absorption rates. In blind taste tests, NO ONE can tell which buds are organic and which grew in mineral salts-to say otherwise is pure naivete, or willful ignorance.
My buds are CLEANER than most organic buds in terms of heavy metals, and I don't use any kind of chemical pesticides or pgrs. It's easy to cultivate a rich microbiome even with mineral salt based nutes if you keep the EC low-there are dozens of studies on the subject.
I'm no expert but kinda feel part of the equation is that in synthetic farming nutrients are easily leached and the soil becomes depleted and more imbalanced without the significantly more attention that would be needed to maintain nutrient levels and ratios with synthetic nutrients. They are also more susceptible to over feeding and a yo yo type effect that imo is not good for overall plant health. That's not to say all synthetic outdoor grows by any means... just more common
Organic outdoors is not only more sustainable but also much much more stable. Especially once we start adding in rain and soil structure.
So in my uneducated opinion the microbiology of the soil and the stability and structure (organic will improve soil structure over time... not that big of deal when your indoor and tossing after each grow) are the biggest benefits to organic... Both ARE in ionic form (salt form) when taken up by the plant... a nitrate is a nitrate no matter its source the true difference in terms of nutrients is ONLY how it was broken down into a nitrate.
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