i used 10th edition merck index as a reference (with a couple checks on wiki). there's not a whole lot of detail, and I've summed up what's there. There is a book called The Terpenes vol. I (university pres, cambridge, 2nd ed, 1947), which likely contains everything you'd want to know about terpenes.

Apart from the last two, they are all isomers with a benzene base. they're all virtually insoluble in water, and highly soluble in ether.

1. alpha pinene C10H16 - turpentine, pine.
2. camphene C10H16 (isomer of alpha pinene) - turpentine, 'insipid odor'
3. beta pinene C10H16 - much less common form of alpha pinene
4. sabinene C10H16 - black pepper (isomer of thujene, very little info)
5. Delta 3 carene C10H16 - turpentine, sweet and pungent.
6. alpha phellandrene C10H16 - ingestion can cause vomiting, diarrhea
7. beta myrcene C10H16 - pleasant odor
8. alpha terpinene C10H16 - lemons
8. gamma terpinene C10H16 - not specified. a naturally occurring isomer
9. limonene C10H16 - lemon caution: sensitizer
10. 1,8 cineole aka eucalyptol C10H18O - camphor-like odor, spicy, cooling taste.
12. cis ocimene C10H16 - pleasant odor
13. trans ocimene - isomer of cis ocimene
14. alpha terpinolene C10H16 - lime-pine, from thegoodscentscompany
15. trans caryophyllene C15H24 - between cloves and turpentine,
16. alpha humulene aka alpha caryophyllene C15H24 - found in hops

so none of these contain magnesium or sulfur. i find it unlikely that they are used as a catalyst, either - unless we research studies of in situ chemical reactions.

so how do you make pot stink?? what is it about epsom that increases flavour? is it a chemical antagonism or stimulation effect? sulfur isn't even on the mulder chart.

Hey good thread. I've been doing some researching because this post intrigued me, that book you mentioned is on google books and has this interesting tidbit:



Thiols are a carbon-bonded sulfhydryl group, which is a result of the plant going through sulfur metabolism. So it seems that many thiols are actually responsible for a wide variety of fragrances.

References:
http://books.google.com/books?id=nr...0CCkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=thiol terpene&f=false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiol

You could also look into sulfur's role in overall plant health.
Gypsum is a cheap way of supplying sulfur as well as calcium. So is Sul Po Mag if you want K and Mg also.
a link

http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/blog/2010/05/starving-for-sulfur/

phenotyper said:

Hey good thread. I've been doing some researching because this post intrigued me, that book you mentioned is on google books and has this interesting tidbit:

Thiols are a carbon-bonded sulfhydryl group, which is a result of the plant going through sulfur metabolism. So it seems that many thiols are actually responsible for a wide variety of fragrances.

References:
http://books.google.com/books?id=nr...0CCkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=thiol terpene&f=false
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiol

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i had no idea that the book was available online...great find! how much of it have you read? or did you use the index? :) i'm curious about biosynthesis - pages 6-9 are omitted. pages 13-27, which contain the polycyclic monoterpenes that we're most interested in, are omitted :( argh! i learned that sulfur IS involved as a catalyst.

i also wonder why the greenhouse terpene list doesn't include any thiols - perhaps they don't know about them?

while it still may not be pc to analyse cannabis, there seems to be extensive work on its cousin, hops (cannabaceae). anybody know of hops cultivation books?

mr bong, i like the info in that article.

"A small investment in sulfur can reduce the need for chemical intervention because excess nitrates are the single most potent driver of pest pressure."

it makes me wonder why advanced nutrients hires PhDs to formulate low sulfur fertilizers...

so what is the 'proper' ratio of sulfur in your nutrients. what are sulfur's antagonism/stimulation? mrbong's article mentions sulfate antagonising nitrate. i've read that sulfur at 50% of nitrogen is about right, and higher doesn't really have a negative effect...but there is an upper toxic level.

by cutting N in late flower, are we emphasizing sulfur? we're certainly hurting their health.

Good job, both of ya'll!

i'm reading the exerpt from the big book of buds by ed rosenthal (in french) and i'm amazed

basically, humans make perfumes from essential oils which plants use to repel bugs, kill, make sick, stop their maturation, or metabolism. sexy! :P

Ed goes on to explain how terpenes can stop thc from crossing the blood-brain barrier, and once inside, can stop dopamine and seratonin production, or block their receptors (more free dopamine). some terpenes are synergistic, while others are antagonistic (cancel each other out).

i've heard of many nute shootouts where the buds smoked differently - from relaxed to heavy couchlock. same genetics, different nutes. so while a plant is genetically predisposed to produce certain terpenes, environment affect their expression. so what are we doing to our plants when we load our plants with phosphorus? (for example)

myrcene:
a strong analgesic, anti inflammatory and antibiotic. it blocks the aciton of cytochrome, aflatoxin B and other pro-cancerous mutagenics. it's commonly found in small quantities in essential oils associated with anti-depressin, and well being. probably potentiates thc. probably allows more thc to enter into the brain.

limonene
anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-cancerous. [possibly explains why some varieties are pm and bug resistant] ease depression. raises systolic blood pressure. drives the mind to sex, openness, and increased concentration.

caryophyllene
blocks calcium and potassium ions - this lowers blood pressure (il ralentit la pression exercée par les muscles du cœur). local analgesic, good for tooth aches.

pinene
local analgesic and expectorant. inhibits acetylcholinesterase (enzyme which destroys acetylcholine) and aids the formation of memories [!]. bronchodilator. lung expansion. aids concentration, contentment, and energy. terpineol is an antagonist.

terpineol
reduces mobility - couchlock. often found along with pinene.

borneol
good sedative, reduce fatigue, stress, or illness. relaxing yet psychedelic.

delta 3 carene
regulates fluids - runny nose, sweating, and heavy menstrual flows. also dry eyes and cotton mouth.

linalool
lily of the valley, with spicy notes. humans can smell it as low as only 1 ppm. cancer treatment. calming, heavy sedative.

pulegone
destroys acetylcholinesterase - good for memory.

1,8-cineole
increases blood circulation, ease pain. concentration, balance, stimulation.

Graywolf said:

Good job, both of ya'll!

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i concur

fwiw

mrbong73 said:

You could also look into sulfur's role in overall plant health.
Gypsum is a cheap way of supplying sulfur as well as calcium. So is Sul Po Mag if you want K and Mg also.
a link

http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/blog/2010/05/starving-for-sulfur/

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So is MgSO4. Molasses also offers a small amount.

Crysmatic said:

I've always heard that you feed extra Magnesium to make buds stinky. I read recently that Sulfur is the key to dank. post #96

Is there any consensus? Or other teks to increase smell?

My main hypothesis is that if Sulfur increases a certain terpene, it is because the particular terpene molecule contains Sulfur, or uses Sulfur in its metabolic pathway (needed to synthesize it). Or else Sulfur ISN'T involved in terpene production.

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dont think there is any S in terpenes, phenols, CBG, CBC, CBD, THC, or CBN(thc pathway) . . . S might be used in synthesis like in an enzyme that creates terpene from glucose, cant find any research.

all molecules along the THC and cellulose pathway are made of Carbon Hydrogen and Oxygen

heres a good bit of info
http://www.hempreport.com/issues/17/malbody17.html

Crysmatic said:

I've always heard that you feed extra Magnesium to make buds stinky. I read recently that Sulfur is the key to dank. post #96

Is there any consensus? Or other teks to increase smell?

My main hypothesis is that if Sulfur increases a certain terpene, it is because the particular terpene molecule contains Sulfur, or uses Sulfur in its metabolic pathway (needed to synthesize it). Or else Sulfur ISN'T involved in terpene production.

It's silly to suggest that plant tissue samples will have the same composition as fertilizer ppm...they are made FROM fertilizer, they are not fertilizer. incidentally, only 4% of the plant's mass comes from fertilizer - the bulk from air and water - so it's even silly to say that plants are made from food...but you get the picture.

here are some threads I came upon:





in French



"(E)-BCP is a natural and powerful anti-inflammatory component that is also found in food items like black pepper, oregano, basil, lime, cinnamon, carrots, and celery." This molecule contains Fluoride, but no Magnesium or Sulfur.

I'll research the following terpenes (list from greenhouse seeds) when I get a chance:
1. alpha pinene
2. camphene
3. beta pinene
4. sabinene
5. Delta 3 carene
6. alpha phellandrene
7. alpha terpinene
8. limonene
9. 1,8 cineole
10. y terpinene
11. cis ocimene
12. trans ocimene
13. alpha terpinolene
14. trans caryophyllene
15. alpha humulene

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Some old work I saved on smells; I would check out wiki its more picture friendly:
Organosulfur compounds
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Organosulfur compounds are organic compounds that contain sulfur. They are often associated with foul odours, but many of the sweetest compounds known are organosulfur derivatives. Nature abounds with organosulfur compounds—sulfur is essential for life. Two of the 20 common amino acids are organosulfur compounds. Fossil fuels, coal, petroleum, and natural gas, which are derived from ancient organisms, necessarily contain organosulfur compounds, the removal of which is a major focus of oil refineries.
Sulfur shares the chalcogen group with oxygen, and it is expected that organosulfur compounds have similarities with carbon-oxygen compounds, which is true to some extent.
A classical chemical test for the detection of sulfur compounds is the Carius halogen method.
Contents
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• 1 Classes of organosulfur compounds
o 1.1 Thioethers, thioesters, thioacetals
o 1.2 Thiols, disulfides, polysulfides
o 1.3 CS Double bonds
o 1.4 CS triple bonds
o 1.5 Sulfonic acids, esters, amides
o 1.6 Sulfuranes and persulfuranes
• 2 Naturally occurring organosulfur compounds
• 3 Organosulfur compounds in pollution
o 3.1 Organosulfur compounds in fossil fuels
• 4 See also
• 5 External links
• 6 References

[edit] Classes of organosulfur compounds
Organosulfur compounds can be classified according to the sulfur-containing functional groups, which are listing in decreasing order of their occurrence.
[edit] Thioethers, thioesters, thioacetals
Thioethers are characterized by C-S-C bonds. The C-S bond is both longer, because S is larger, and weaker than C-C bonds. Selected bond lengths in sulfur compounds are 183 pm for the S-C single bond in methanethiol and 173 pm in thiophene. The C-S bond dissociation energy for thiomethane is 89 kcal/mol (370 kJ/mol) compared to methane's 100 kcal/mol (420 kJ/mol) and when hydrogen is replaced by a methyl group the energy decreases to 73 kcal/mol (305 kJ/mol).[1]
The single carbon to oxygen bond is shorter than that of the C-C bond. The bond dissociation energies for dimethyl sulfide and dimethyl ether are respectively 73 and 77 kcal/mol (305 and 322 kJ/mol.
Thioethers are typically prepared by alkylation of thiols. They can also be prepared via the Pummerer rearrangement. In one named reaction called the Ferrario reaction phenyl ether is converted to phenoxathiin by action of elemental sulfur and aluminium chloride [2]

Thioacetals, which are useful in umpolung of carbonyl groups, are a special class of thioethers as well as thioesters with general structure R-CO-S-R.
Thiophenes represent a special class of thioethers that are aromatic. The resonance stabilization of thiophene is 29 kcal/mol (121 kJ/mol) compared to 20 kcal/mol (84 kJ/mol) for the oxygen analogue furan. The reason for this difference is the higher electronegativity for oxygen drawing away electrons to itself at the expense of the aromatic ring current. Yet as an aromatic substituent the thio group is less effective as an activating group than the alkoxy group.
[edit] Thiols, disulfides, polysulfides
Thiol group contain the functionality R-SH. Thiols are structurally similar to the alcohol group, but these functionalities are very different in their chemical properties. Thiols are correspondingly more nucleophilic, more acidic, and more readily oxidized. This acidity can differ by 5 pKa units [3].
The difference in electronegativity between sulfur (2.58) and hydrogen (2.20) is small and therefore hydrogen bonding in thiols is not prominent. Aliphatic thiols form monolayers on gold, which are topical in nanotechnology.
Certain aromatic thiols can be accessed through a Herz reaction.
Disulfides R-S-S-R with a covalent sulfur to sulfur bond are important for crosslinking: in biochemistry for the folding and stability of some proteins and in polymer chemistry for the crosslinking of rubber.
Longer sulfur chains are also known, such as in the natural product varacin which contains an unusual pentathiepin ring (5-sulfur chain cyclised onto a benzene ring)
[edit] CS Double bonds
Double bonds of carbon and sulfur are relatively uncommon, because such species often tend to oligomerize or polymerize. Exceptions to this rule include carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, and thiophosgene. Resonance-stabilized C=S bonds are more common, as found in thioamides (see below) and related species.
Thioketones have the general structure RC(=S)R'. These species are quite rare, in contrast to their oxygen analogues. Thioaldehydes are rarer still, reflecting their lack of steric protection. Thioamides, with the formula R1C(=S)N(R2)R3 are more common. They are typically prepared by the reaction of amides with Lawesson's reagent.
Double bonds of carbon and sulfur exist as Sulfonium ylides for instance in the Johnson-Corey-Chaykovsky reaction.
[edit] CS triple bonds
Triple bonds between sulfur and carbon in sulfaalkynes are rare and can be found in Carbon monosulfide (CS) [4] and have been suggested for the compounds F3CCSF3 [5] [6] and F5SCSF3 [7]. The compound HCSOH is also presented as having a formal triple bond [8].
[edit] Sulfonic acids, esters, amides
Sulfonic acids have functionality RS(=O)2OH. They are strong acids that are typically soluble in organic solvents. Sulfonic acids like Trifluoromethanesulfonic acid is a frequently used reagent in organic chemistry. Sulfa drugs are sulfonamides derived from aromatic sulfonation.
[edit] Sulfuranes and persulfuranes
Sulfuranes are relatively specialized functional group that are tetravalent, hypervalent sulfur compounds, with the formula SR4 [9] and likewise persulfuranes are hexavalent SR6. All-carbon persulfuranes have been known for the heavier representatives of the chalcogen group, for instance the compound hexamethylpertellurane (Te(Me)6) was discovered in 1990 [10] by reaction of tetramethyltellurium with xenon difluoride to Te(Me)2)F2 followed by reaction with diethylzinc. The sulfur analogue hexamethylpersulfurane SMe6 has been predicted to be stable [11] but has not been synthesized yet.
The first ever all-carbon persulfurane actually synthesized in a laboratory has two methyl and two biphenyl ligands [12]:

It is prepared from the corresponding sulfurane 1 with xenon difluoride / boron trifluoride in acetonitrile to the sulfuranyl dication 2 followed by reaction with methyllithium in tetrahydrofuran to (a stable) persulfurane 3 as the cis isomer. X-ray diffraction shows C-S bond lengths ranging between 189 and 193 pm (longer than the standard bond length) with the central sulfur atom in a distorted octahedral molecular geometry.
In silico experiments suggest that these bonds are very polar with the negative charges residing on carbon.
[edit] Naturally occurring organosulfur compounds
Not all organosulfur compounds are foul-smelling pollutants. Compounds like allicin and ajoene are responsible for the odor of garlic, and lenthionine contributes to the flavor of shiitake mushrooms. Many of these natural products also have important medicinal properties such as preventing platelet aggregation or fighting cancer.
[edit] Organosulfur compounds in pollution
Most organic sulfur compounds in the environment are naturally occurring, as a consequence of the fact that sulfur is essential for life and two amino acids contain this element.
Some organosulfur compounds in the environment, are generated as minor by-products of industrial processes such as the manufacture of plastics and tires.
Selected smell-producing processes are organosulfur compounds produced by the coking of coal designed to drive out sulfurus compounds and other volatile impurities in order to produce 'clean carbon' (coke), which is primarily used for steel production.
[edit] Organosulfur compounds in fossil fuels
Odours occur as well in chemical processing of coal or crude oil into precursor chemicals (feedstocks) for downstream industrial uses (e.g. plastics or pharmaceutical production) and the ubiquitous needs of petroleum distillation for (gasolines, diesel, and other grades of fuel oils production.
Organosulfur compounds might be understood as smelly contaminants that need to be removed from natural gas before commercial uses, from exhaust stacks and exhaust vents before discharge. In this latter context, organosulfur compounds may be said to account for the pollutants in sulfurous acid rain, or equivalently, said to be pollutants within most common fossil fuels, especially coal.
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Core organic chemistry Many uses in chemistry.
Academic research, but no widespread use Bond unknown / not assessed.
[edit] External links
• Organosulfur chemistry at http://users.ox.ac.uk Link
[edit] References
1. ^ Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, 81st Edition CRC Press ISBN 0-8493-0481-4
2. ^ Organic Syntheses, Coll. Vol. 2, p.485 (1943); Vol. 18, p.64 (1938). Article link
3. ^ Organosulfur chemistry. reviews of current research JANSSEN, M.J. Interscience, New York,(1967)
4. ^ Moltzen, E. K.; Klabunde, K. J.; Senning, A. (1988). "Carbon monosulfide: a review". Chemical Reviews 88: 391. doi:10.1021/cr00084a003. edit
5. ^ Pötter, B.; Seppelt, K. (1984). "Trifluoroethylidynesulfur Trifluoride, F3CCSF3". Angewandte Chemie International Edition in English 23: 150. doi:10.1002/anie.198401501. edit
6. ^ Buschmann, J.; Damerius, R.; Gerhardt, R.; Lentz, D.; Luger, P.; Marschall, R.; Preugschat, D.; Seppelt, K. et al. (1992). "(Trifluoroethylidyne)sulfur trifluoride, F3CC.tplbond.SF3: two solid-state structures and reactivity as a carbene". Journal of the American Chemical Society 114: 9465. doi:10.1021/ja00050a027. edit
7. ^ Gerhardt, R.; Gerlbig, T.; Buschamann, J. �R.; Luger, P.; Seppelt, K. (1988). "The SF5-Unit as Steric Protecting Group; Synthesis and Structure of F5SCSF3". Angewandte Chemie International Edition in English 27: 1534. doi:10.1002/anie.198815341. edit
8. ^ Schreiner, P.; Reisenauer, H.; Romanski, J.; Mloston, G. (2009). "A formal carbon-sulfur triple bond: H-Ctriple bondS-O-H.". Angewandte Chemie (International ed. in English) 48 (43): 8133–8136. doi:10.1002/anie.200903969. PMID 19768827. edit
9. ^ For an example bis[2,2,2-trifluoro-1-phenyl-1-(trifluoromethyl) ethoxy] diphenyl sulfurane Organic Syntheses, Coll. Vol. 6, p.163 (1988); Vol. 57, p.22 (1977) Link.
10. ^ Synthesis and characterization of hexamethyltellurium(VI) Latif Ahmed, John A. Morrison J. Am. Chem. Soc.; 1990; 112(20); 7411-7413. Abstract
11. ^ The S6 Point Group Conformers of the Hexamethylchalcogens: Me6S, Me6Se, Me6Te Fowler, J. E.; Schaefer, H. F., III; Raymond, K. N. Inorg. Chem.; (Article); 1996; 35(2); 279-281. doi: 10.1021/ic940240d
12. ^ Isolation and Molecular Structure of the Organo-persulfuranes [12-S-6(C6)] Sato, S.; Matsunaga, K.; Horn, E.; Furukawa, N.; Nabeshima, T. J. Am. Chem. Soc.; (Communication); 2006; 128(21); 6778-6779. doi:10.1021/ja060497y
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Thiol
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General chemical structure of the thiol functional group
In organic chemistry, a thiol is an organosulfur compound that contains a sulfur-hydrogen bond (S-H). Thiols are the sulfur analogue of an alcohol. The SH functional group is referred to as either a thiol group or a sulfhydryl group. Thiols are often referred to as mercaptans.[1][2]
Contents
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• 1 Structure and bonding
• 2 Nomenclature
• 3 Physical properties
o 3.1 Odour
o 3.2 Boiling points and solubility
• 4 Characterization
• 5 Preparation
o 5.1 Laboratory methods
• 6 Reactions
o 6.1 S-alkylation
o 6.2 Acidity
o 6.3 Redox
o 6.4 Metal ion complexation
• 7 Biological importance
o 7.1 Cysteine and cystine
o 7.2 Cofactors
• 8 Examples of thiols
• 9 See also
• 10 References
• 11 External links

[edit] Structure and bonding
Thiols and alcohols have similar molecular structure. The major difference is the size of the chalcogenide, C-S bond lengths being around 180 picometers in length. The C-S-H angles approach 90°. In the solid or molten liquids, the hydrogen-bonding between individual thiol groups is weak, the main cohesive force being van der Waals interactions between the highly polarizable divalent sulfur centers.
Due to the small electronegativity difference between sulfur and hydrogen, an S-H bond is less polar than the hydroxyl group. Thiols have a lower dipole moment relative to the corresponding alcohol.
[edit] Nomenclature
Several ways of naming the alkylthiols:
• The preferred method (used by the IUPAC) is to add the suffix -thiol to the name of the alkane. The method is nearly identical to naming an alcohol. Example: CH3SH would be methanethiol.
• An older method, the word mercaptan replaces alcohol in the name of the equivalent alcohol compound. Example: CH3SH would be methyl mercaptan, just as CH3OH is called methyl alcohol.
• As a prefix, the terms sulfanyl or mercapto are used. Example: mercaptopurine.
[edit] Physical properties
[edit] Odour
Many thiols have strong odours resembling that of garlic. The odours of thiols are often strong and repulsive, particularly for those of low molecular weight. Skunk spray is composed mainly of low molecular weight thiol compounds.[3][4] These compounds are detectable by the human nose at concentrations of only 10 parts per billion.[5]
Thiols are also responsible for a class of wine faults caused by an unintended reaction between sulfur and yeast and the "skunky" odour of beer that has been exposed to ultraviolet light.
However, not all thiols have unpleasant odours. For example, grapefruit mercaptan, a monoterpenoid thiol, is responsible for the characteristic scent of grapefruit. This effect is present only at low concentrations. The pure mercaptan has an unpleasant odour.
Natural gas distributors began adding thiols, originally ethanethiol, to natural gas, which is naturally odourless, after the deadly 1937 New London School explosion in New London, Texas. Most gas odourants utilized currently contain mixtures of mercaptans and sulfides, with t-butyl mercaptan as the main odour constituent. In situations where thiols are used in commercial industry, such as liquid petroleum gas tankers and bulk handling systems, the use of an oxidizing catalyst is used to destroy the odour. A copper-based oxidation catalyst neutralizes the volatile thiols and transforms them into inert products.
[edit] Boiling points and solubility
Thiols show little association by hydrogen bonding, with both water molecules and among themselves. Hence, they have lower boiling points and are less soluble in water and other polar solvents than alcohols of similar molecular weight. Thiols and thioethers have similar solubility characteristics and boiling points.
[edit] Characterization
Volatile thiols are easily and almost unerringly detected by their distinctive odor. S-specific analyzers for gas chromatographs are useful. Spectroscopic indicators are the D2O-exchangeable SH signal in the 1H NMR spectrum (S has no useful "NMR isotopes"). The νSH band appears near 2400 cm−1 in the IR spectrum.[1] In a colorimetric test, thiols react with nitroprusside.
[edit] Preparation
In industry, thiols are prepared mainly by the reaction of hydrogen sulfide with the related alcohol. This method is employed for the industrial synthesis of methanethiol and ethanethiol:
CH3OH + H2S → CH3SH + H2O
Such reactions are conducted in the presence of acidic catalysts. The other principal route to thiols involves the addition of hydrogen sulfide to alkenes. Such reactions are usually conducted in the presence of a metal catalyst.[6]
[edit] Laboratory methods
Many methods are useful for the synthesis of thiols on the laboratory scale. The direct reaction of a halogenoalkane with sodium hydrosulfide is generally inefficient owing to the competing formation of thioethers:
CH3CH2Br + NaSH → CH3CH2SH + NaBr
CH3CH2Br + CH3CH2SH → (CH3CH2)2S + HBr
Instead, alkyl halides are converted to thiols via a S-alkylation of thiourea. This multistep, one-pot process proceeds via the intermediacy of the isothiouronium salt, which is hydrolyzed in a separate step:[7]
CH3CH2Br + SC(NH2)2 → [CH3CH2SC(NH2)2]Br
[CH3CH2SC(NH2)2]Br + NaOH → (CH3CH2SH + OC(NH2)2 + NaBr
The thiourea route works well with primary halides, especially activated ones. Secondary and tertiary thiols are less easily prepared. Secondary thiols can be prepared from the ketone via the corresponding dithioketals.[8]
Organolithium compounds and Grignard reagents react with sulfur to give the thiolates, which are readily hydrolyzed:[9]
RLi + S → RSLi
RSLi + HCl → RSH + LiCl
Phenols can be converted to the thiophenols via rearrangement of their O-aryl dialkylthiocarbamates.[10]
Many thiols are prepared by reductive dealkylation of thioethers, especially benzyl derivatives and thioacetals.[11]
[edit] Reactions
Akin to the chemistry of alcohols, thiols form thioethers, thioacetals and thioesters, which are analogous to ethers, acetals, and esters. Thiols and alcohols are also very different in their reactivity, thiols being easily oxidized and thiolates being highly potent nucleophiles.
[edit] S-alkylation
Thiols, or more particularly their conjugate bases, are readily alkylated to give thioethers:
RSH + R'Br + base → RSR' + [Hbase]Br
[edit] Acidity
Relative to the alcohols, thiols are fairly acidic. Butylthiol has a pKa's of 10.5 vs 15 for butanol. Thiophenol has a pKa's of 6 vs 10 for phenol. Thus, thiolates are obtained from thiols by treatment with alkali hydroxides.


Synthesis of thiophenolate from thiophenol
[edit] Redox
Thiols, especially in the presence of base, are readily oxidized by reagents such as iodine to give an organic disulfide (R-S-S-R).
2 R-SH + Br2 → R-S-S-R + 2 HBr
Oxidation by more powerful reagents such as sodium hypochlorite or hydrogen peroxide yields sulfonic acids (RSO3H).
R-SH + 3H2O2 → RSO3H + 3H2O
Thiols participate in thiol-disulfide exchange:
RS-SR + 2 R'SH → 2 RSH + R'S-SR'
This reaction is especially important in nature.
[edit] Metal ion complexation
Thiolates, the conjugate bases derived from thiols, form strong complexes with many metal ions, especially those classified as soft. The term mercaptan is derived from the Latin mercurium captans (capturing mercury)[12] because the thiolate group bonds so strongly with mercury compounds. The stability of metal thiolates parallels that of the corresponding sulfide minerals.
[edit] Biological importance
[edit] Cysteine and cystine
As the functional group of the amino acid cysteine, the thiol group plays an important role in biology. When the thiol groups of two cysteine residues (as in monomers or constituent units) are brought near each other in the course of protein folding, an oxidation reaction can generate a cystine unit with a disulfide bond (-S-S-). Disulfide bonds can contribute to a protein's tertiary structure if the cysteines are part of the same peptide chain, or contribute to the quaternary structure of multi-unit proteins by forming fairly strong covalent bonds between different peptide chains. A physical manifestation of cysteine-cystine equilibrium is provided by hair straightening technologies.
Sulfhydryl groups in the active site of an enzyme can form noncovalent bonds with the enzyme's substrate as well, contributing to catalytic activity. Active site cysteine residues are the functional unit in cysteine proteases. Cysteine residues may also react with heavy metal ions (Pb2+, Hg2+, Ag2) because of the high affinity between the soft sulfide and the soft metal (see hard and soft acids and bases). This can deform and inactivate the protein, and is one mechanism of heavy metal poisoning.
[edit] Cofactors
Many cofactors (non-protein-based helper molecules), feature thiols. The biosynthesis and degradation of fatty acids and related long-chain hydrocarbons is conducted on a scaffold that anchors the growing chain through a thioester derived from the thiol Coenzyme A. The biosynthesis of methane, the principal hydrocarbon on earth, arises from the reaction mediated by coenzyme M, 2-mercaptoethyl sulfonic acid.
[edit] Examples of thiols
• Methanethiol - CH3SH [m-mercaptan]
• Ethanethiol - C2H5SH [e- mercaptan]
• 1-Propanethiol - C3H7SH [n-P mercaptan]
• 2-Propanethiol - CH3CH(SH)CH3 [2C3 mercaptan]
• Butanethiol - C4H9SH [n-butyl mercaptan]
• tert-Butyl mercaptan - C(CH3)3SH [t-butyl mercaptan]
• Pentanethiols - C5H11SH [pentyl mercaptan] • Coenzyme A
• Glutathione
• Cysteine
• 2-Mercaptoethanol
• Dithiothreitol/dithioerythritol (an epimeric pair)
• 2-Mercaptoindole
• transglutaminase

[edit] See also
• Doctor sweetening process
• Thiol-disulfide exchange
[edit] References
1. ^ a b Patai, Saul “The chemistry of the thiol group” Saul Patai, Ed. Wiley, London, 1974. ISBN 0471669490.
2. ^ R. J. Cremlyn “An Introduction to Organosulfur Chemistry” John Wiley and Sons: Chichester (1996). ISBN 0 471 95512 4.
3. ^ Wood W. F., Sollers B. G., Dragoo G. A., Dragoo J. W. (2002). "Volatile Components in Defensive Spray of the Hooded Skunk, Mephitis macroura". Journal of Chemical Ecology 28 (9): 1865. doi:10.1023/A:1020573404341.
4. ^ William F. Wood. "Chemistry of Skunk Spray". Dept. of Chemistry, Humboldt State University. . Retrieved January 2, 2008.
5. ^ Aldrich, T.B. (1896). "A chemical study of the secretion of the anal glands of Mephitis mephitica (common skunk), with remarks on the physiological properties of this secretion.". J. Exp. Med. 1 (2): 323–340. doi:10.1084/jem.1.2.323. PMID 19866801. PMC 2117909. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2117909/pdf/323.pdf.
6. ^ Kathrin-Maria Roy “Thiols and Organic Sulfides” in Ullmann's Encyclopedia of Industrial Chemistry 2002, Wiley-VCH Verlag, Weinheim. doi:10.1002/14356007.a26_767
7. ^ Speziale, A. J. (1963), "Ethanedithiol", Org. Synth., http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv4p0401; Coll. Vol. 4: 401.
8. ^ S. R. Wilson, G. M. Georgiadis (1990), "Mecaptans from Thioketals: Cyclododecyl Mercaptan", Org. Synth., http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv7p0124; Coll. Vol. 7: 124.
9. ^ E. Jones and I. M. Moodie (1990), "2-Thiophenthiol", Org. Synth., http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv6p0979; Coll. Vol. 6: 979.
10. ^ Melvin S. Newman and Frederick W. Hetzel (1990), "Thiophenols from Phenols: 2-Naphthalenethiol", Org. Synth., http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv6p0824; Coll. Vol. 6: 824.
11. ^ Ernest L. Eliel, Joseph E. Lynch, Fumitaka Kume, and Stephen V. Frye (1993), "Chiral 1,3-oxathiane from (+)-Pulegone: Hexahydro-4,4,7-trimethyl-4H-1,3-benzoxathiin", Org. Synth., http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/orgsyn/prepContent.asp?prep=cv8p0302; Coll. Vol. 8: 302
12. ^ Oxford American Dictionaries (Mac OS X Leopard).
[edit] External links
• Applications, Properties, and Synthesis of w-Functionalized n-Alkanethiols and Disulfides — the Building Blocks of Self-Assembled Monolayers by D. Witt, R. Klajn, P. Barski, B.A. Grzybowski at Northwestern University.
• Mercaptan, by The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia.
• What is Mercaptan?, by Columbia Gas of Pennsylvania and Maryland.
• What Is the Worst Smelling Chemical?, by About Chemistry.
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Functional groups


Alcohol • Aldehyde • Alkane • Alkene • Alkyne • Amide • Amine • Azo compound • Benzene derivative • Carboxylic acid •
Cyanate • Disulfide • Ester • Ether • Haloalkane • Hydrazone • Imine • Isocyanide • Isocyanate • Ketone • Organophosphorus •
Oxime • Nitrile • Nitro compound • Nitroso compound • Peroxide • Phosphonous and Phosphonic acid •Pyridine derivative •
Sulfone • Sulfonic acid • Sulfoxide • Thioester • Thioether • Thiol


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Categories: Thiols | Functional groups | Organosulfur compounds | Organic compounds

Sesquiterpene
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Sesquiterpenes are a class of terpenes that consist of three isoprene units and have the molecular formula C15H24. Like monoterpenes, sesquiterpenes may be acyclic or contain rings, including many unique combinations. Biochemical modifications such as oxidation or rearrangement produce the related sesquiterpenoids.
Sesquiterpenes are found naturally in plants and insects, as semiochemicals, e.g. defensive agents or pheromones.
Contents
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• 1 Acyclic
• 2 Monocyclic
• 3 Bicyclic
• 4 Tricylic
• 5 External links

[edit] Acyclic
When geranyl pyrophosphate reacts with isopentenyl pyrophosphate, the result is the 15-carbon farnesyl pyrophosphate, which is an intermediate in the biosynthesis of sesquiterpenes such as farnesene. Oxidation can then provide sesquiterpenoids such as farnesol.


Farnesyl pyrophosphate
[edit] Monocyclic
With the increased chain length and additional double bond, the number of possible ways that cyclization can occur is also increased, and there exists a wide variety of cyclic sesquiterpenes. In addition to common six-membered ring systems such as is found in zingiberene, a constituent of the oil from ginger, cyclization of one end of the chain to the other end can lead to macrocyclic rings such as humulene.
[edit] Bicyclic


δ-Cadinene, a sesquiterpene
In addition to common six-membered rings such as in the cadinenes, one classic bicyclic sesquiterpene is caryophyllene, from the oil of cloves, which has a nine-membered ring and cyclobutane ring. Additional unsaturation provides aromatic bicyclic sesquiterpenoids such as vetivazulene and guaiazulene.
[edit] Tricylic
With the addition of a third ring, the possible structures become increasingly varied. Examples include longifolene, copaene and the alcohol patchoulol.
[edit] External links
• MeSH Sesquiterpenes
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Categories: Sesquiterpenes

Succinic acid
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Succinic acid




IUPAC name[hide]
Butanedioic acid
Other names[hide]
ethane-1,2-dicarboxylic acid
Identifiers
CAS number
110-15-6

ChemSpider
1078

SMILES
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Properties
Molecular formula
C4H6O4
Molar mass
118.09 g/mol
Density
1.56 g/cm³
Melting point
185–187 °C
Boiling point
235 °C, 508 K, 455 °F
Solubility in 2-propanol, ethanol
2-propanol 0.32 M, ethanol 0.4 M [1]

Acidity (pKa)
pKa1=4.2
pKa2=5.6
Related compounds
Other anions

succinate
Related carboxylic acids
propionic acid
malonic acid
butyric acid
crotonic acid
malic acid
tartaric acid
fumaric acid
diglycolic acid
pentanoic acid
glutaric acid

Related compounds butanol
butyraldehyde
crotonaldehyde
sodium succinate

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Except where noted otherwise, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C, 100 kPa)

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Succinic acid (pronounced /səkˈsɪnɨk/; IUPAC systematic name: butanedioic acid; historically known as spirit of amber) is a dicarboxylic acid. Succinate plays a biochemical role in the citric acid cycle. The name derives from Latin succinum, meaning amber, from which the acid may be obtained.
The carboxylate anion is called succinate and esters of succinic acid are called alkyl succinates.
Contents
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• 1 Physical properties
• 2 Biochemical role
• 3 History
• 4 Safety
• 5 Reactions
• 6 Fermentation
• 7 Interactive pathway map
• 8 References
• 9 See also
• 10 External links

[edit] Physical properties
At room temperature, pure succinic acid is a solid that forms colorless, odorless crystals. It has a melting point of 185 °C and a boiling point of 235 °C. It is a diprotic acid.
[edit] Biochemical role
Succinate is a component of the citric acid cycle and is capable of donating electrons to the electron transport chain by the reaction:
succinate + FAD → fumarate + FADH2.
This is catalysed by the enzyme succinate dehydrogenase (or complex II of the mitochondrial ETC). The complex is a 4 subunit membrane-bound lipoprotein which couples the oxidation of succinate to the reduction of ubiquinone. Intermediate electron carriers are FAD and three Fe2S2 clusters part of subunit B.
[edit] History
Spirit of amber was procured from amber by pulverising and distilling it using a sand bath. It was chiefly used externally for rheumatic aches and pains, and internally in inveterate gleets.
[edit] Safety
The acid is combustible and corrosive, capable of causing burns.
In nutraceutical form as a food additive and dietary supplement, is safe and approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.[2] As an excipient in pharmaceutical products it is used to control acidity[3] and, more rarely, in effervescent tablets.[4]
[edit] Reactions
Succinic acid can be converted to fumaric acid by oxidation. The diethyl ester is a substrate in the Stobbe condensation.
[edit] Fermentation
See also: Acids in wine
Succinic acid is created as a byproduct of the fermentation of sugar. It lends to fermented beverages such as wine and beer a common taste that is a combination of saltiness, bitterness and acidity.[5]
[edit] Interactive pathway map
Click on genes, proteins and metabolites below to visit Gene Wiki pages and related Wikipedia articles. The pathway can be edited at WikiPathways.
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lots of detailed info there. what did you get from it? which parts do you believe are relevant to this thread?

i'm thinking greenhouse reports would be more valuable to research.

i've also heard that super intense light suppresses a plant's smell. i'm curious what mechanism is responsible. maybe i should consult my plant physiology text book...

Very interesting thread and thanks all for the links. I mix my own nutes from base organics and firmly believe that nute/extra selection has an effect on the terps and taste/smell by extension.

I get sulfur from several sources and haven't found a need to add it as a separate ingredient. ie K2SO4 (potassium sulfate.) MgSO4 (epsom salts), actually has more sulfur by weight in the compound than magnesium.

High P bat guano during mid flower seems to bring out the fruit/sweet tones and more nose overall.
There are a couple of particular strains that I foliar feed w/ a *light* dose of N -> wk 4 or 5 and have noticed that hydrolyzed fish increases the skunk tones. Not an exact science... hopefully some more folks will weigh in.

thank you for all of this very detailed information. I will be following it closely..

Sulfate Transport and Assimilation in Plants

interesting article dextr0. seriously, do you read this stuff before you post? here's another one:

"Exactly how ATP sulfurylase operates in the forward direction in vivo has yet to be determined" so even the eggheads don't know what's going on yet. "The number of sulfated compounds in plants is not known...recently, a sulfated regulator of cell proliferation, phytosulfokine-α, was identified from plants"

"Gaseous sulfur dioxide (SO2) is readily absorbed and assimilated by leaves, but it is significant as a nutrient source only in industrial areas with air pollution."

"In this way the toxins are inactivated and tagged for transport into the vacuole and for degradation" including heavy metals...

(I've read that sulfur reduces excess nitrate, which reduces pests)

so could it be that sulfur burners do triple duty: kill pm, strengthen the plant and reduce stress?

"Hatzfeld et al. (1998) concluded that it is not rate limiting"

"reduced sulfur compounds such as Cys and glutathione, when applied to plants, repress the activity of the sulfur-assimilation enzymes" so why would we feed plants aminos?

"SO4 2− is a major anionic component of vacuolar sap; therefore, it does not necessarily enter the assimilation stream." so it may be in the roots, or in sap, and not in dry tissue samples...and sulfur would be underrepresented.

i found a mulder chart which includes sulfur...we need to watch for potassium and calcium interactions.

Crysmatic said:

seriously, do you read this stuff before you post?

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I do alot of reading before I post. I mostly try to lead people in the right direction...if not I find myself having to prove myself and doing alot of research.

In this instance I was looking for what created smells and all the terpenes in cannabis. I found that french perfumeries did ALOT of research in that area.

I tried to help by listing all that I was putting together at ICMAG. Thiols I ran into by a female (sticky attic I believe) but mostly I was UNDERSTANDING that it was associated with the skunk smell.

Your original question was the dank smell, does sulfur add that dank ass smell or help you get there. Really I dont know. BUT I believe that if you look up all the terpenes we know cannabis has (and yea thats alot) you will find sulfur being used in there somewhere. Does it make it more Dank? If by that you mean smell stronger; if you look up essential oil making plants you'll find two things. 1. Sulfur is used to bring out the smell. 2. Companion planting is also used to make them smell stronger (look into stinging nettle).

heres some-more good stuff:http://books.google.com/books?id=OJ3qKgNUljcC&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq=essential+oil+and+sulfur&source=bl&ots=oEZBG_U8S3&sig=lxf7kt9_DzeszL_0HVKs4pQh0NU&hl=en&ei=agPPTqzOH4eusQKJ8um8Ag&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CF0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=essential%20oil%20and%20sulfur&f=false

mrbong73 said:

You could also look into sulfur's role in overall plant health.
Gypsum is a cheap way of supplying sulfur as well as calcium. So is Sul Po Mag if you want K and Mg also.
a link

http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/blog/2010/05/starving-for-sulfur/

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Gypsum may provide sulfur in organic soil conditions, where the microbes can break it down into more plant soluble forms. By itself, it's 97% INsoluble, and in fact is responsible for a lot of mischief when mixing hydroponic nutrients; for instance, if you mix your calcium into solution before adding sulfur you can easily get a flocculation iteraction, where gypsum is created from too high a concentration of sulfur and calcium- it then preciptitates out of solution, becoming unavailable for takeup. What's left is just expensive gunk (gypsum) in the bottom of your reservoir.

The solution for the solution, then, is to use something already soluble, like epsom salts- and then be sure to add your Cal-mag or calcium nitrate LAST, after all other nutrients have been added to the hydroponic mix and fully dissolved.

Seamaiden said:

So is MgSO4. Molasses also offers a small amount.

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MgSO4 is epsom salts, and it's funny how many people recommend using 'unsulphured' molasses? I always thought that would be counterproductive? The sugar in molasses of course helps the microherd in organic applications, where it likely increases the activity of breaking down gypsum and similar otherwise bio-unavailable nutrients.

My favorite place to get epsom salts is in the pharmacy section at the local grocery store. A 10lb bag runs a few lousy bux, which beats the hell out of $50 for a liter bottle with a gee-whiz label on it! And, there's no doubt that it's pharmacy/food grade, considering the souce.

On a similar thread:



Much is discused about where to get essential nutrients, especially hydroponic nutrients, for much less money than the Botanicare/Canna/DutchMaster/Advanced Nutrient liquid approach. Those looking to save some money (a LOT of money) on their nutes would be well advised to look here.

I add 1tsp/gallon of epsom salts to my hydroponic solution, before adding my calcium nitrate.

phenotyper - I apologize. The bad rep was a mistaken attempt at giving good rep for fine information you provided on the previous page. I'd return your pm, but I have to make more posts. Fat fingers + stoner = mistake. Apologies again for ruffled feathers.

All said, I have no business judging the info supplied here... my experiences with sulfur are entirely anecdotal, tho its nice to peruse the lofty conversation you fellows are having here. Can anyone point me in the way of a less esoteric conversation explaining why my cheeba tastes so fine since adding mag sulfate products? Cheers.

Hey ftwendy, it is possible that the increase in quality has to do with the epsom salts and flushing. From what I remember, someone on the site was saying a while ago that the tobacco industry found that during flush, if there is insufficient magnesium or calcium, the tobacco will not burn to the clean grey/white ash we want. Same thing I believe with cannabis.
I switched to coco a while back. Coco wants to hold on to Ca, Mg, and K I think. So there are the calcium and magnesium reserves that slowly time-release into the medium during flush. Therefore the meds burn more smoothly, and taste better.
There is that sulfur thing too. Higher levels of some terpenes potentiate the power of your meds considerably. I suspect higher levels of sulfur may contribute to extra terpene production, leading to stonier and more medically effective meds.
Maybe look into switching hps lamps out last 2 weeks of flowering to stimulate a different terpene ratio if it is feasible. I think I like meds better finished with MH.