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I dont use sensi ph perfect because I grow 100% organic, but before I went 100% organic was my go to choice. Not many NPK bases come with calmag, urea, sulfur, all needed chelated minerals and humic and fulvic acids. Again, besides athena, I dare you to post a synthetic or bio-mineral NPK base that is as complete.
 
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Also yes, organic AN line is way better than any biomineral or synthetic. You cant beat kelp, it gives NPK, L-aminoacids, suggars, vitamins and natural hormones. Compare it to a synthetic line which only comes with NPK... no, not nearly close.
 
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I dont use sensi ph perfect because I grow 100% organic, but before I went 100% organic was my go to choice. Not many NPK bases come with calmag, urea, sulfur, all needed chelated minerals and humic and fulvic acids. Again, besides athena, I dare you to post a synthetic or bio-mineral NPK base that is as complete.
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I used GH Flora series trio. I use GH calimagic. I use "candyman" potasium sulfate based sweetner for my potassium boost. It works, its afordable, and I can really care less about anything else.

Edit: I forgot, I use armor si' too. but not in flower.
 
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I used GH Flora series trio. I use GH calimagic. I use "candyman" potasium sulfate based sweetner for my potassium boost. It works, its afordable, and I can really care less about anything else.
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Well the fact that you couldnt care less for more doesnt mean that others wont. GH series is pretty basic but from the basic ones is one of the best.
 
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I used GH Flora series trio. I use GH calimagic. I use "candyman" potasium sulfate based sweetner for my potassium boost. It works, its afordable, and I can really care less about anything else.

Edit: I forgot, I use armor si' too. but not in flower.
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Armor si is silicon dioxide, the most expensive form of silicon due to the lack of salt accumulation compared to potassium silicate. You should also use it in flower in lower ammounts, buds are made of calcium and silicon.
 
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Well the fact that you couldnt care less for more doesnt mean that others wont. GH series is pretty basic but from the basic ones is one of the best.
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I don't believe more bottles make it better. The plants aren't concerned about brand names. I'm only concerned about ease of use and end results. I don't have endless hours to spend trying to fix something that isn't broken. I also believe my skills as a grower mean far more than the brand I'm using.
 
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Armor si is silicon dioxide, the most expensive form of silicon due to the lack of salt accumulation compared to potassium silicate. You should also use it in flower in lower ammounts, buds are made of calcium and silicon.
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You mean power si'. Armor si' is potassium silicate.
 
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You mean power si'. Armor si' is potassium silicate.
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Oh, my bad then. I use potassium silicate too because its cheaper but I make sure to clean the substrate with epsom salts before harvest.
 
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You can also use any finisher product but they contain magnessium and sulfur, pretty much epsom salts but more expensive.
 
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I don't believe more bottles make it better. The plants aren't concerned about brand names. I'm only concerned about ease of use and end results. I don't have endless hours to spend trying to fix something that isn't broken. I also believe my skills as a grower mean far more than the brand I'm using.
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Pretty much my point, with sensi ph perfect you dont need any supplement unless you wanna feed more silica and carbs whichi is good as long as the other parameters also get higher.
 
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You can also use any finisher product but they contain magnessium and sulfur, pretty much epsom salts but more expensive.
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But I do use epsom salts religiously. I start with that when the plants are small. 1 teaspoon per gallon of water. I stop with epsom salts when I start with calmag ... about week 2 of flower. This routine addresses the high amounts of calcium in my source water and prevents calcium locking other minerals out. Magnesium needs are continued to be addressed by the calmag.
 
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The overload PK booster is nice, but not needed.
 
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But I do use epsom salts religiously. I start with that when the plants are small. 1 teaspoon per gallon of water. I stop with epsom salts when I start with calmag ... about week 2 of flower. This routine addresses the high amounts of calcium in my source water and prevents calcium locking other minerals out. Magnesium needs are continued to be addressed by the calmag.
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You stop with epsom salts when you use calmag because calmag already has magnessium! With sensi ph perfect you get epsom salts, NPK, aminoacids and humic and fulvic acids so there's really no need to add anything else unless you wanna increase weight and trichome production slightly in which case carbs and more cal and silicon can come handy. As I said, if you wanna give more of one nutrient, the plant has to be able to take more of the rest. Its like an equalizer, you cant just up one parameter and hope for it to sound nice, it wont.
 
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The overload PK booster is nice, but not needed.
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I boost K, not p. The plants get enough p with the base nutrients.

Edit: I've known too many people who have had trouble with pH perfect. I will stick to what works.
 
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I boost K, not p. The plants get enough p with the base nutrients.
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I dont know, I dont use salt based nor does the OP, he uses bio-mineral. In any case if youre supplementing potassium silicate you will have more than enough potassium as potassium silicate is way too high in potassium to not consider it when adjusting your feeding.
 
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Same happens when youre trying to supplement more calcium, you need more nitrogen and if the plant cant take it you will end up with a calcium accumulation in the soil that will prevent other nutes from being taken properly.
 
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I dont know, I dont use salt based nor does the OP, he uses bio-mineral. In any case if youre supplementing potassium silicate you will have more than enough potassium as potassium silicate is way too high in potassium to not consider it when adjusting your feeding.
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Except I stop using silica during flower ... remember I stated that above.

My point is still the same. I don't feel I need to adjust a program that has been working for me for a good number of years. It doesn't matter what you say, I'm not fixing a routine that isn't broken.
 
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Except I stop using silica during flower ... remember I stated that above.

My point is still the same. I don't feel I need to adjust a program that has been working for me for a good number of years. It doesn't matter what you say, I'm not fixing a routine that isn't broken.
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Just because isnt broken doesnt mean it cant be better. Plants can be healthy and give a decent yield. Plants can also take way more than they show, until you burn some tips.
 
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If you add natural hormones from kelp youre bound to feed them more, because their metabolism is faster.
 
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You can also choose not to and they will be fine, but why add hormones if youre not planing on pushing nutes?
 
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