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HarvestHaven
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Man, they'll be worth the wait!
Looking great my friend!!!
This is clone wilting, many possible reasons, probably the callus didn't formed in time and/or stem cut got infection preventing water to keep going trough.
Or they got underwatered and stood too dry for too long.
I never used a dome, I set heating mat to 24cI’ve got to get my clone game strong again.
Using domes that are marginally not tall enough for the size of cuttings I take. I’ve noticed some people take the dome off after a week. Gotta find a way to keep the humidity up for 50 ish clones (2 trays). Was debating the idea of a large tote with moist perlite in the bottom and just set the trays of cuttings in there, and leave the lid cracked.
I do too, organic has a distinct flavor added to the strain and the smoke is much cleaner (I really do notice that because Im asthmatic). But that doesnt mean you cant get a clean smoke with synthetics with a good flush. In organic is not necessary to flush, its still gonna taste good (in a blind taste study the majority of the people chose the non flushed organic against the flushed organic), but I flush them for 1 week for a cleaner smoke. I feel like sometimes the flavor can be overwhelming with organics too if you dont flush. I remember a Skywalker Runtz I had, 2 strains with a lot of flavor, it was too much for my senses. I smoke spliffs so I just used less and problem solved. I cant smoke just weed or I will be coughing for weeks, mixed with tobbaco I can tolerate it.I'm not sure it I'm just overly sensitive, but I swear I can feel the difference in the smoke from salt based nutes to organic. Same with salt nic vapes versus pg/vg. I don't knock any way though, as long as the plants are happy, it's all good in my books
Theyre looking fire! Can I ask what nutes are you using? By salt nutrients you mean synthetic or bio mineral? Im an organic guy but I always have a couple of synthetic and bio mineral bottles in case I dont catch a deficiency in time, I never use them though because I watch them every day but if I have to leave for a few days and I come back to see a heavy deficiency I feel safer with those nutes there.
I do too, organic has a distinct flavor added to the strain and the smoke is much cleaner (I really do notice that because Im asthmatic). But that doesnt mean you cant get a clean smoke with synthetics with a good flush. In organic is not necessary to flush, its still gonna taste good (in a blind taste study the majority of the people chose the non flushed organic against the flushed organic), but I flush them for 1 week for a cleaner smoke. I feel like sometimes the flavor can be overwhelming with organics too if you dont flush. I remember a Skywalker Runtz I had, 2 strains with a lot of flavor, it was too much for my senses. I smoke spliffs so I just used less and problem solved. I cant smoke just weed or I will be coughing for weeks, mixed with tobbaco I can tolerate it.
They both have their pros and cons, I could list several of them here if you want me to but you probably know them already since youre using both, even though outdoors and indoors are 2 different worlds so I dont know... with organic I get bigger plants and a distinct taste. With synthetic I was getting big buds too but often the plant couldnt take the weight. Overall time of harvest is also significantly faster with clones, coco and synthetic, meassuring ppm, thats unbeatable. I do push my nutes to the maxium, I make my super soil, then top dress but I do it light enough so I can push with organic liquid nutes to the maxium of their capabilities and so far I had no problem. When I start seeing a couple of burnt tips or any sign that I used too much last time, I just go to the previous dose until they get bigger.I think he was referring to salt nic as in nicotine (vaping).
I use Floraflex nutrients, and to the plant, an ion is an ion. Outdoors I grow with organic nutrients, but indoors I prefer the precise control of nutrients that a synthetic has to offer. I can guarantee that taste/quality is not negatively effected and dare to say that when grown properly, taste/terps is the best it’s ever been for the last few runs
I’m all very familiar with all of thisThey both have their pros and cons, I could list several of them here if you want me to but you probably know them already since youre using both, even though outdoors and indoors are 2 different worlds so I dont know... with organic I get bigger plants and a distinct taste. With synthetic I was getting big buds too but often the plant couldnt take the weight. Overall time of harvest is also significantly faster with clones, coco and synthetic, meassuring ppm, thats unbeatable. I do push my nutes to the maxium, I make my super soil, then top dress but I do it light enough so I can push with organic liquid nutes to the maxium of their capabilities and so far I had no problem. When I start seeing a couple of burnt tips or any sign that I used too much last time, I just go to the previous dose until they get bigger.
Also floraflex is very good, and ion is an ion but you sure are spending good money for good ferts so theres something else to that, right? Hehehe. Not only the chemical form they come in but also what else besides NPK are they supplying to the plant, and also in which chemical form those come too. For example, some supplements to speed metabolism you can only get with organic nutrients (like fitohormones from kelp), unless youre willing to use synthetic hormones but they have been proven to be bad for your health and the buds are nasty sponge like.
It sounds like what you’re implying towards this grow is that my buds may look nice but they’re lacking quality because it’s not organic? I get the whole organic thing.. I’ve done it time and time again indoors and out, but I use synthetic nutrients because I can personally produce a better product with it, while tailoring to each strains needs.One thing I noticed too when I was using synthetics and I notice in my friend's grow who also use synthetics and coco, is that you cant get colas as big. But he is getting way frostier buds than I am, he is using Athena and 240W panels, he sells to the shop at 8euros per gram so the shop will sell it around 12 euros or more per gram, top notch weed. That said he never has produced colas like this even if these colas are worth less money by weight:
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Bigger plant, bigger buds, but not necessarily better. He does SOG so he also gets more grams per square meter than I do... I just like organics honestly, and I got used to the taste and I wanna replicate how they live in the wild but better fed. (Organic living soil and everything that comes with it)
No, you got me wrong. My friend has better buds but theyre smaller, he goes with quality clones, coco hydro and has always used synthetic until now that he has been using Athena for 2 grows (They look even frostier now but they were very frosty before hew as using Athena too, more than mine) and Athena is a mix of synthetics, bio minerals and organic. As I said before, yours are looking fire, even the big leaves getting frosty!It sounds like what you’re implying towards this grow is that my buds may look nice but they’re lacking quality because it’s not organic? I get the whole organic thing.. I’ve done it time and time again indoors and out, but I use synthetic nutrients because I can personally produce a better product with it, while tailoring to each strains needs.
Wow is much cheaper there then. Makes sense if youre from the US, the same happens with Athena, is more expensive here in Spain and both companies are from the US.I’m all very familiar with all of thisand I get Floraflex nutrients for $0.12 per gallon when mixed at 4g/gal. It’s one of the cheapest I have ever run.
Enjoyed watching this grow! Certainly not your first. Beauties you've got there
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