First Time 12 Site Ebb And Grogro

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

Midwestjay said:
I will be ordering a cheap filter that hooks onto the faucet soon. I'm tired of lugging water. And it makes me be frugal with the water. Just be careful those ro can get expensive. It throws away 3gal to make one. I always wished I could do something with the waste water.

Idk if you would want to. Maybe toilet water?

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Idk if you would want to. Maybe toilet water?

Well you wouldn't want to use the water here, it's bad enough when you have to drink it, even with a pur tap on the faucet it tastes chlorinated and like minerals.

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
It will take a minute to get that rez. filled up, but I have a 5gallon water jug I will be filling up and dumping into the rez to measure how much water I am putting in my rez. So basically fill and dump the water jug like 7 times.

I used to keep a 40gal trash can full of ro. I added an aquarium power head to circulate it and a air stone also. It's nice to have back up water incase you Fk the nutes up. And that will happen. You get distracted while adding nutes and not engender if you added something or not. Sometimes double add things, multiple things. I really reccomend setting up a system to add nutes. I number my nutes in the order that I add them, that helps some. Also if I take a cap off I add it right then no matter what, if someone is talking to me they have to wait till it's added for me to respond.

But I really recommend setting up a extra barrel or tote to hold enough for a complete change. I know you have a couple hrs between feeding so it doesn't matter as much but still. Just put a float valve on the barrel so it stays full.

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Idk if you would want to. Maybe toilet water?

Yea that's about all its good for. That actually would be a good idea there brother. If you could pipe it to the toilet at least it would get used.

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Well you wouldn't want to use the water here, it's bad enough when you have to drink it, even with a pur tap on the faucet it tastes chlorinated and like minerals.

My water here is horrible too. You can look up your cities online and mine is horrible for contaminate, and smells like pool water. Pls it's super hard and heavy iron. Kc had great tap. Half my grows came from tap, it can work great.

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

Midwestjay said:
I used to keep a 40gal trash can full of ro. I added an aquarium power head to circulate it and a air stone also. It's nice to have back up water incase you Fk the nutes up. And that will happen. You get distracted while adding nutes and not engender if you added something or not. Sometimes double add things, multiple things. I really reccomend setting up a system to add nutes. I number my nutes in the order that I add them, that helps some. Also if I take a cap off I add it right then no matter what, if someone is talking to me they have to wait till it's added for me to respond.

But I really recommend setting up a extra barrel or tote to hold enough for a complete change. I know you have a couple hrs between feeding so it doesn't matter as much but still. Just put a float valve on the barrel so it stays full.

Im extremely organized in the shop. I have a seperate gallon pitcher for each nute. I have a faucet and drain to rinse and wash stir sticks and pictchers etc. I have a clipboard and pen. I write each one of my measurements as I pour them into each designated pitcher. I keep a calendar down there too and mark days off and log it. I used to work in a 5s environment. Theres a specific spot for everything, it comes from that specific spot, then it is imperative to go back to that specific spot immediately after use, and before getting something else. My whole shop is like that. If you practice this and enforce this, it will limit errors, accidents, and stuff being out of place and missing.

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

Midwestjay said:
My water here is horrible too. You can look up your cities online and mine is horrible for contaminate, and smells like pool water. Pls it's super hard and heavy iron. Kc had great tap. Half my grows came from tap, it can work great.

My city probably doctors the logs. Lol

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Im extremely organized in the shop. I have a seperate gallon pitcher for each nute. I have a faucet and drain to rinse and wash stir sticks and pictchers etc. I have a clipboard and pen. I write each one of my measurements as I pour them into each designated pitcher. I keep a calendar down there too and mark days off and log it. I used to work in a 5s environment. Theres a specific spot for everything, it comes from that specific spot, then it is imperative to go back to that specific spot immediately after use, and before getting something else. My whole shop is like that. If you practice this and enforce this, it will limit errors, accidents, and stuff being out of place and missing.

I believe it was a Japanese man that came up with this process, and is very much practiced in major manufacturing.

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Im extremely organized in the shop. I have a seperate gallon pitcher for each nute. I have a faucet and drain to rinse and wash stir sticks and pictchers etc. I have a clipboard and pen. I write each one of my measurements as I pour them into each designated pitcher. I keep a calendar down there too and mark days off and log it. I used to work in a 5s environment. Theres a specific spot for everything, it comes from that specific spot, then it is imperative to go back to that specific spot immediately after use, and before getting something else. My whole shop is like that. If you practice this and enforce this, it will limit errors, accidents, and stuff being out of place and missing.

Holy shit brother. I wish I took that approach. Just taking the notes all the time got so repetitive. Seemed redundant, but I do recommend it to start gives you done reference to look back on. I eventually went to a dry erase board cause it was easy to see and change. But now I just put the info in my phone. major things like when I start seeds and do big changes.

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

Midwestjay said:
Holy shit brother. I wish I took that approach. Just taking the notes all the time got so repetitive. Seemed redundant, but I do recommend it to start gives you done reference to look back on. I eventually went to a dry erase board cause it was easy to see and change. But now I just put the info in my phone. major things like when I start seeds and do big changes.

Maybe consider this. It's called 5s methodology

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Maybe consider this. It's called 5s methodology View attachment 584584 View attachment 584585

Lmfao .Fk that 5 s shit... Nah I've had warehouse jobs that were into that. And that stupid Japanese employee training shit lol. Just let me work.
Lol, I should be more organized. But I've never been. I lose shit all the time. And the bomb ass weed and dabs don't help at all...

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

We used to stencil everything, to it's designated spots. For example trash cans we would trace a circle of where the dumpster belonged. If you needed to move the dumpster, you did it, as soon as you were done with it, then right back to the circle on the floor where it belonged. It was this with everything in the room. Computers, keyboards, chairs, tables, extension cords, tool boxes, the tools in the tool boxes....lol literally everything. By doing this and wanting to accomplish this religiously non stop will help create and train a mindset to be a more step by step person with everything you do even outside of your shop. I am super a.d.d so when I had this practice pushed upon my work practice for the last 10 years by the "nazi superior" bosses and our entire work facilities, I found it was actually helpful. It would be stupid sometimes like "bro your tripping about the broom being over here until I'm done finishing this right here" boss would be like "if you skipped the process of putting the broom back what else did you skip?". Don't take it literally, they really mean that if you skip a step, you may forget to come back to that step. You could also look at it like this, why did you decide to skip a step, was it necessary, if you think about it, probably not other than a strong chance you had to go out of your way to accomplish that step and now you just increased the odds of an error are going to be made.....anyways the atmosphere I worked in was definitely a very regulated one, and government agencies monitoring. I don't mean to sound like hot shit or like overboard but skipping a step or fucking something out in my industry was either going to result in a fatality, many fatalities, injury....etc. I am 10 years programmed to be this way now. Lol. It's not a bad thing. I'm very ocd which has pros and cons. Quality is much better tho, and efficiency at accomplishing.

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

So about 30 mins to get 10gallons

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
We used to stencil everything, to it's designated spots. For example trash cans we would trace a circle of where the dumpster belonged. If you needed to move the dumpster, you did it, as soon as you were done with it, then right back to the circle on the floor where it belonged. It was this with everything in the room. Computers, keyboards, chairs, tables, extension cords, tool boxes, the tools in the tool boxes....lol literally everything. By doing this and wanting to accomplish this religiously non stop will help create and train a mindset to be a more step by step person with everything you do even outside of your shop. I am super a.d.d so when I had this practice pushed upon my work practice for the last 10 years by the "nazi superior" bosses and our entire work facilities, I found it was actually helpful. It would be stupid sometimes like "bro your tripping about the broom being over here until I'm done finishing this right here" boss would be like "if you skipped the process of putting the broom back what else did you skip?". Don't take it literally, they really mean that if you skip a step, you may forget to come back to that step. You could also look at it like this, why did you decide to skip a step, was it necessary, if you think about it, probably not other than a strong chance you had to go out of your way to accomplish that step and now you just increased the odds of an error are going to be made.....anyways the atmosphere I worked in was definitely a very regulated one, and government agencies monitoring. I don't mean to sound like hot shit or like overboard but skipping a step or fucking something out in my industry was either going to result in a fatality, many fatalities, injury....etc. I am 10 years programmed to be this way now. Lol. It's not a bad thing. I'm very ocd which has pros and cons. Quality is much better tho, and efficiency at accomplishing.

Oh I agree . It makes work so much easier, especially with tools. Just don't have the discipline to appy it to my life. I live in cycles. I put everything in its place and it stays that way a lil while but before I know it shits a mess again and I gotta repeat the process. Don't matter if it's my house, garage, or grow room. Need me a good female to stay on my ass. But being a single dude it don't happen lol.

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
So about 30 mins to get 10gallons

That's a nice flow man.

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

You don't have to keep a res then. Hell it'll fill up before the next cycle. Did you ever get any good info on the cycles?

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

What I'm reading is basically every 4-6 hrs and for 15-30 mins at a time. From what I've read it depends on the environment. If it's cooler and more humid you need to feed less often but for longer periods. And opposite if it's warm and arid. But I guess it's kinda trial and error.

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

Midwestjay said:
What I'm reading is basically every 4-6 hrs and for 15-30 mins at a time. From what I've read it depends on the environment. If it's cooler and more humid you need to feed less often but for longer periods. And opposite if it's warm and arid. But I guess it's kinda trial and error.

That's what I was actually looking at, and no night feeds.

wasfromks · Mar 24, 2016

Yeah I'm dumping the res. now ppms were up there and the res was pretty full. So this time not so much water in rez and will adjust to 5.4 over time allow the ph to climb up to 6.2 and check ppms and see about making adjustments like add water and adjusting ph blah blah

Midwestjay · Mar 24, 2016

wasfromks said:
Yeah I'm dumping the res. now ppms were up there and the res was pretty full. So this time not so much water in rez and will adjust to 5.4 over time allow the ph to climb up to 6.2 and check ppms and see about making adjustments like add water and adjusting ph blah blah

When you start running higher ppm nutes the ph will get more stable. I usually don't shoot for that low but sounds like a good plan man

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