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sorry actually this is what I would do....see where your res is....ppm wise....then that will tell you where you need to add next fill up 1 gallon of water and put 1tsp of tiger in and take a ppm reading then and another tsp and keep going until you match...
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sorry actually this is what I would do....see where your res is....ppm wise....then that will tell you where you need to add
next fill up 1 gallon of water and put 1tsp of tiger in and take a ppm reading then and another tsp and keep going until you match where you need to be...as in say all your nute come to 650 so you need 200ppm to reach 850......you keep adding to the gallon until you reach 200 ppm and that will tell you how many tsp per gallon to reach your desired ppm for that nute.....then just times that by your res size and you are good to go

sorry if my explanation sounds super basic....just wanted to be super clear....for myself....cuz I am having an OCD moment
 
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Wisher619 said:
sorry actually this is what I would do....see where your res is....ppm wise....then that will tell you where you need to add
next fill up 1 gallon of water and put 1tsp of tiger in and take a ppm reading then and another tsp and keep going until you match where you need to be...as in say all your nute come to 650 so you need 200ppm to reach 850......you keep adding to the gallon until you reach 200 ppm and that will tell you how many tsp per gallon to reach your desired ppm for that nute.....then just times that by your res size and you are good to go

sorry if my explanation sounds super basic....just wanted to be super clear....for myself....cuz I am having an OCD moment
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No you're good I actually like it when you break it down so a kindergarten kid could figure it out. When it comes to this stuff I have no one to learn from other than right here.
 
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thanks man.....I just hate when I may come across condescending or anything like that....but I just wanted to be super specific so you dont have any .....OH SHIT WHAT DO I DO NOW...moments
 
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thanks man.....I just hate when I may come across condescending or anything like that....but I just wanted to be super specific so you dont have any .....OH SHIT WHAT DO I DO NOW...moments
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Yeah that's what I'm trying to avoid....ahahaha there's few times I will respect being talked to like a child...and when I post a question and you answer you can treat me like I'm in special education bro...and I will appreciate it haha
 
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Thanks for the love @G gnome
 
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Yea I just do what I started with .Standard system is retarded but it's second nature,from framing houses to using a mic. On a brake rotor I use standard. Metric is more simple but it doesn't equate in my head like standard does.
 
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Inert means void of nutrients and has nothing to do with pH. It definitely affects pH and will drive it up even more than Rockwool, even after it's cleaned and soaked in a solution of 5.5 for 48 hours. It will stabilize but your pH will still rise as it runs through your system and the ionic reaction in your root zone will cause it to rise. Also I wouldn't suggest running a pH of 5.2 even though it will rise very quickly as you stand a good chance of nitrogen burning your roots. Anything below 5.4 can get sketchy if it's making direct contact with the roots with no buffering like you have with soil. Run your micros through your system only at a pH that low if you notice a deficiency, which I don't think you will if you are using a complete nutrient solution at a starting point of 5.6 and within a week you'll be up around 6.3 or so when it's time for a solution change.
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Just revisited this thread today. Realize it was from a while back. But hydroton is inert and it will not raise your Ph, the word inert does not mean "void of nutes" it means "chemically inactive" that's why I stated that it will not mess with your ph
 
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OK so here's what I got ready to go into the fresh res of 25 gallons. 3parts GH micro first 16tbs, grow 8tbs, bloom 25tbs. Hyrdogaurd 50ml. Tiger bloom 4tbs (1/4 strength). Calmag 4tbs.
 
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looks good bro.....yeah man I say 3 more weeks till chop chop.....
 
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check out this greasy iced out slut

 
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looks good bro.....yeah man I say 3 more weeks till chop chop.....
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Nice! Omg I can't wait brother! So I am running my GH 100% right now. My cal mag 100%. Hyrdogaurd at 100%. My tiger bloom at 25%. When I start to run lower ppm will I just lower all of those ingredients? Or should I continue to run the hyrdogaurd at 100%?....lol can you break this down for me like for a preschooler @Wisher619
 
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check out this greasy iced out slut
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Oh damn sexy bro....dude I will get some better pics for you this weekend....bro my sluts are so frosty they look like they went through a freeze chill...like fucking winter all up in there but feeling like summer....hehe
 
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Oh damn sexy bro....dude I will get some better pics for you this weekend....bro my sluts are so frosty they look like they went through a freeze chill...like fucking winter all up in there but feeling like summer....hehe
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I should be putting tanning oil on....I be looking like I was at the beach.
 
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yeah so you will keep running hydroguard @100 cuz it holds no ec value...no ppms....as you start to cut back.....what I do is drop to 75% of 100 for each product....
so lets say you are running micro at 10ml per gallon.....you would drop down to 7.5 ml per gallon
50% would 5ml and so on
and that would be for all products
so just bust out the calculator and x's what ever each product is by .75 and run that for a week.....then the next week 50% or .5 and then the following 25% or .25 and the last week at .25 every time the water drops...refill with fresh water and allow the nutes to slowly be taken...last 2 days just ph'd water.....
people used to think you could flush something out of the plant
you cant....
but what you are doing is forcing the plant to cannabalize it self of all nutrients stored....which actually tells the plant the end is near and to ripen up
in nature with weather changes and tempreture changes as well as water or lack there of...these plants will stop taking in what nature is providing and kill itself essentially
we just mimmick that
 
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sometimes I get jelly when I see others ladies and how plump and large they are
then I have to remind my self....I'm running cookies.....
 
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yeah so you will keep running hydroguard @100 cuz it holds no ec value...no ppms....as you start to cut back.....what I do is drop to 75% of 100 for each product....
so lets say you are running micro at 10ml per gallon.....you would drop down to 7.5 ml per gallon
50% would 5ml and so on
and that would be for all products
so just bust out the calculator and x's what ever each product is by .75 and run that for a week.....then the next week 50% or .5 and then the following 25% or .25 and the last week at .25 every time the water drops...refill with fresh water and allow the nutes to slowly be taken...last 2 days just ph'd water.....
people used to think you could flush something out of the plant
you cant....
but what you are doing is forcing the plant to cannabalize it self of all nutrients stored....which actually tells the plant the end is near and to ripen up
in nature with weather changes and tempreture changes as well as water or lack there of...these plants will stop taking in what nature is providing and kill itself essentially
we just mimmick that
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OK I totally dig this...so hyrdogaurd at 100% (it won't even effect ppm). Everything else run at 75%. With exception to the tiger bloom as well. I took your advice on that and only ran it at 1/4 strength. I read that it is very strong and easy to burn up plants, and most hydro users were using it at 1/4. So with that said I only used 4tbs, should I just drop that down 1 1/2 tbs per res change? I change my res every 7 days so I could just taper it off basically right?
 
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OK I totally dig this...so hyrdogaurd at 100% (it won't even effect ppm). Everything else run at 75%. With exception to the tiger bloom as well. I took your advice on that and only ran it at 1/4 strength. I read that it is very strong and easy to burn up plants, and most hydro users were using it at 1/4. So with that said I only used 4tbs, should I just drop that down 1 1/2 tbs per res change? I change my res every 7 days so I could just taper it off basically right?
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I could probably do like 2 TBS next fill up and then do like 1/2 tbs the fill up after that and then cut it....maybe something like that?
 
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