First Time Grower - Ethos Grandpa's Stash R2

[Galgrows]

You are doing great just keep doing what your doing.

 

[CheeseAndBees]

You are doing great just keep doing what your doing.

Thank you!!

 

[aggiefarmer]

Beautiful my growmie! I considered get some of those beans but they were sure proud of them. I am on my first indoor grow so I went with some budget options.

Look forward to continuing to follow along on your journey.

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Beautiful my growmie! I considered get some of those beans but they were sure proud of them. I am on my first indoor grow so I went with some budget options.

Look forward to continuing to follow along on your journey.

Thanks Growmie! They were definitely a bit pricey but have been very forgiving to a first time grower like myself!

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Day 54 Since Planting, Day 3 Flower:

-Girls are finally in flower and seem to be enjoying it! Light intensity has been slowly raised up to ~360-400μmol/m²/s with a target of 500μmol/m²/s by the end of next week and even higher than that once stretching is done
-I fed them on Day 50 as planned -> 4G soft tap water, 36ml Canna A & B, 8ml Canna Calmag, pH 5.7-5.8, EC ~1350uS
-I also did one last round of LST tie downs on day 50 and have only been leaf tucking daily since
-I moved my dehumidifier inside my tent in order to get RH to 56-57%. Going to try to go lower than that next week but it has been very humid in NY

-Unfortunately, I did find a few new holes in my new growth in the last few days. I have been searching for bugs in my tent daily, but have only found one small bug (had to use a magnifying glass to identify it) crawling on the floor. I have not found any bugs on the leaves or undersides.
-I am fairly confident that the two bugs I have found so far are the same type (just different life stages) -> thrips
-However, the damage I am finding on the leaves does not match what you would expect from thrips

-Since I am in flower, I do not want to spray neem oil. Instead, I have added many more sticky traps throughout the tent, and ordered some food grade diatomaceous earth and will be applying a top layer of tomorrow
-I got the bright idea (maybe) to ask ChatGPT to identify the type of damage on the leaves, and it suggested it was mechanical damage, likely from leaf tucking. Praying that this is it! But if things get worse, I will give "Lost Coast Plant Therapy" a try as I have heard it is safe to use in early flower
-Feel free to let me know what you guys think! -> Thrips or mechanical damage?

I may have gone overboard with the sticky traps LOL.

-Cheese & Bees

 

[FloridaMike]

Day 54 Since Planting, Day 3 Flower:

-Girls are finally in flower and seem to be enjoying it! Light intensity has been slowly raised up to ~360-400μmol/m²/s with a target of 500μmol/m²/s by the end of next week and even higher than that once stretching is done
-I fed them on Day 50 as planned -> 4G soft tap water, 36ml Canna A & B, 8ml Canna Calmag, pH 5.7-5.8, EC ~1350uS
-I also did one last round of LST tie downs on day 50 and have only been leaf tucking daily since
-I moved my dehumidifier inside my tent in order to get RH to 56-57%. Going to try to go lower than that next week but it has been very humid in NY

-Unfortunately, I did find a few new holes in my new growth in the last few days. I have been searching for bugs in my tent daily, but have only found one small bug (had to use a magnifying glass to identify it) crawling on the floor. I have not found any bugs on the leaves or undersides.
-I am fairly confident that the two bugs I have found so far are the same type (just different life stages) -> thrips
-However, the damage I am finding on the leaves does not match what you would expect from thrips

-Since I am in flower, I do not want to spray neem oil. Instead, I have added many more sticky traps throughout the tent, and ordered some food grade diatomaceous earth and will be applying a top layer of tomorrow
-I got the bright idea (maybe) to ask ChatGPT to identify the type of damage on the leaves, and it suggested it was mechanical damage, likely from leaf tucking. Praying that this is it! But if things get worse, I will give "Lost Coast Plant Therapy" a try as I have heard it is safe to use in early flower
-Feel free to let me know what you guys think! -> Thrips or mechanical damage?

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I may have gone overboard with the sticky traps LOL.

-Cheese & Bees

Plants look very healthy. My vote is on mechanical.
Sometimes they just grow blemishes.

Just be vigilant and keep a real good eye out,
especially on the undersides of the leaves.

 

[BB22]

I get holes in my leafs also. I’d like to think it’s because I’m clumsy. Hope it’s not critters

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Plants look very healthy. My vote is on mechanical.
Sometimes they just grow blemishes.

Just be vigilant and keep a real good eye out,
especially on the undersides of the leaves.

Thanks for the feedback and tips! The more I think about it, it does make sense with all the leaf tucking I am doing.

 

[CheeseAndBees]

I get holes in my leafs also. I’d like to think it’s because I’m clumsy. Hope it’s not critters

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Thank you for sharing! Did your holes only start showing up after beginning LST?

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Day 68 Since Planting, Day 17 Flower:

-Buds are coming in hot! Light intensity is at 600+ μmol/m²/s for all plants, going to try to hit ~750 μmol/m²/s mid flower
-Expecting girls to finish stretching soon, still debating whether or not I should use a trellis net
-Plants were lollipopped to varying degrees at around day 10, with some very light defoliation since then
-Day time temperatures have been 79-82 with relative humidity between 50-60%. Night time temps 74-76deg with relative humidity at 57%
-Thankfully have not seen any signs of pests and have applied food grade diatomaceous earth 2x so far as a preventative measure, also still using sticky traps throughout the tent
-Fed the girls today to 15-20% runoff for the first time in a long time -> 6G soft tap water, 68ml Canna A and B, 12ml Canna Calmag, pH ~5.8, EC ~1700uS. Was also curious about the runoff EC since I had not measured it in some time. It varied drastically from plant to plant:

-> Front left plant run off EC ~2400uS
-> Front right plant run off EC ~2700uS
-> Back right plant run off EC ~1950uS

-I am thinking that runoff EC will normalize a bit now that I am back to feeding to ~20% runoff
-As the buds continue to develop, I will lower my relative humidity target, and may even place one of my fans below the canopy
-This is a fast flowering strain, with ethos listing "<56-60" on their website, so another month and a half to go! If anybody has any good tips for watering these girls in such a tight tent, I am all ears haha.

Really proud of these girls so far!

-Cheese & Bees

 

[HerbalEdu]

few random damage on the leaves can happen for various reasons, genetic twist locally, you damaging the leaves when doing some maintenance, pets munching the leaves and finnaly pests

 

[Grownsince95]

Day 68 Since Planting, Day 17 Flower:

-Buds are coming in hot! Light intensity is at 600+ μmol/m²/s for all plants, going to try to hit ~750 μmol/m²/s mid flower
-Expecting girls to finish stretching soon, still debating whether or not I should use a trellis net
-Plants were lollipopped to varying degrees at around day 10, with some very light defoliation since then
-Day time temperatures have been 79-82 with relative humidity between 50-60%. Night time temps 74-76deg with relative humidity at 57%
-Thankfully have not seen any signs of pests and have applied food grade diatomaceous earth 2x so far as a preventative measure, also still using sticky traps throughout the tent
-Fed the girls today to 15-20% runoff for the first time in a long time -> 6G soft tap water, 68ml Canna A and B, 12ml Canna Calmag, pH ~5.8, EC ~1700uS. Was also curious about the runoff EC since I had not measured it in some time. It varied drastically from plant to plant:

-> Front left plant run off EC ~2400uS
-> Front right plant run off EC ~2700uS
-> Back right plant run off EC ~1950uS

-I am thinking that runoff EC will normalize a bit now that I am back to feeding to ~20% runoff
-As the buds continue to develop, I will lower my relative humidity target, and may even place one of my fans below the canopy
-This is a fast flowering strain, with ethos listing "<56-60" on their website, so another month and a half to go! If anybody has any good tips for watering these girls in such a tight tent, I am all ears haha.

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Really proud of these girls so far!

-Cheese & Bees

They are super healthy and very happy! Looks like you have a lot of extra leaf material inside and down low away from the light that can be removed. This will help your humidity numbers stay down and focus more energy where you want it. Any leaf that's not catching light is still pumping moisture into the tent and using plant energy without making a useful contribution to photosynthesis. Just freeloaders really.

 

[CheeseAndBees]

few random damage on the leaves can happen for various reasons, genetic twist locally, you damaging the leaves when doing some maintenance, pets munching the leaves and finnaly pests

Yea I'm thinking it's just me being clumsy inside the tent haha! I appreciate the feedback!

 

[CheeseAndBees]

They are super healthy and very happy! Looks like you have a lot of extra leaf material inside and down low away from the light that can be removed. This will help your humidity numbers stay down and focus more energy where you want it. Any leaf that's not catching light is still pumping moisture into the tent and using plant energy without making a useful contribution to photosynthesis. Just freeloaders really.

Thank you! Also, appreciate the advice! I actually went in and did a defoliation yesterday based on this advice. Will post some pics now!

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Day 72 (Yesterday) Since Planting, Day 21 of Flower

-Did a mid-flower defoliation, getting rid of anything in the lower canopy that is not seeing any light as well as fan leaves in the center of the plant preventing light from penetrating deeper into the canopy
-Light intensity is at ~700+ μmol/m²/s for all plants. Daytime temps are 79-81deg, and night time temps are 74-75deg. RH has been between 50-56%.
-Will be doing another feed tomorrow, slightly bumping up the strength -> 6G soft tap water, 70ml Canna A and B, 12ml Canna
-Thanks again for everyone who has been following along and giving me advice on my first grow!

Getting real excited now. Can't wait for the buds to continue to swell up over the next couple weeks!

-Cheese & Bees

 

[aggiefarmer]

Hey there what kind/brand are those sticky traps. I have been using the ribbion traps while great due to length I’m constantly hitting them and having to peel of my arms or shirt.

 

[Timbee240]

Hi All! I am a first time grower in NY and decided to start with 3 plants, all the same strain: Ethos Grandpa's Stash R2. I germinated my seeds using the paper towel method and a heat mat (popped in ~48 hours), then planted them in the grow medium on April 23rd, 20 days from this post. Here is some information about my set up:

-Set up located in 3 Season Sunroom, AC installed but no heat
-3x3 AC Infinity Tent, with inline filter/exhaust and two oscillating fans
-IONBOARD S33, Full Spectrum LED Grow Light 260W, Samsung LM301H
-Day Temps: 78-82deg / Night Temps: 68deg (Heater used inside tent at night since sunroom regularly drops below 55)
-Day RH: 65% / Night RH: 60% (Humidifier used inside tent since RH levels in sunroom are often <50%)
-Grow Medium is: 70% Canna Coco Coir (pre-buffered), 15% Perlite, 15% Earth Worm Castings
-Nutrient line is Canna Coco A & B and Canna CalMag Agent

I am starting this grow journal not only to document my first grow, but also with the hope that more experienced growers can give me some advice on what I may be doing wrong. All three plants have been growing, but slower than I expected. Additionally, I have been having issues with leaf bleaching since they sprouted.

A Few Days Before Planting:

-Mixed grow medium together and filled 1G grow bags
-Added 7ml Canna CalMag Agent to 2gallons of soft tap water and let sit for a day
-PH'd the 2 gallons of CalMag water Up/Down to 5.8, EC ~380uS
-Watered the empty grow medium to slight run off using the calmag mix, this was to ensure the coco was properly buffered (I purchased it pre-buffered but read somewhere you should buffer it yourself just in case)
-Night before planting, mixed the first very light feed -> 2G Soft tap water, 3ml Canna A and B, 1ml Canna CalMag
*Note: I always mix 2g of feed, but only use what I need*

Day 0, Planting:

-Checked PH of mix from night before, and PH'd down from 6.8 to 5.9, EC 410uS
-Watered Pots until moist throughout, but not saturated
-Planted each germinated seed about 1in deep
-Waited 6hrs before adding humidity domes
-Grow Light ~26 Inches away, 20% Strength, 18/6 cycle

Day 5 From Planting:

-Seedlings had first set of leaves coming in, but all are showing signs of bleaching
-I had noticed the seedlings were getting really leggy when they first sprouted (~day 3 from planting) and decreased the light height to 18 inches away, 40% strength as per the light manual's recommendation
-It was unclear to me at this point if I should be raising the light (because of the bleaching) or lowering the light (to prevent the seedlings from stretching even more)
-On day 6 I gave another feeding, a bit stronger this time -> 2G Soft tap water, 5ml Canna A and B, 2ml Canna CalMag, PH 5.9, EC 515uS
-Used a pipette to water the soil around the stem, followed by misting the plants using a spray bottle (realized later this may be a bad idea), and a normal watering can for the bulk of the medium
-On day 7 I lowered the light intensity to 30% since bleaching was still present

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Day 12 From Planting:

-Plants on their second set of leaves, still showing varying levels of bleaching
-On day 9 another feeding was given using the same mix from Day 6, using the same method
-On Day 10 the light was raised from 18in to 20in, with intensity upped from 30% to 40%
-I was convinced that the bleaching was due to my misting/spraying during feeds, with the water droplets acting like magnifying glasses for the light. Or maybe the nutrients mix droplets were burning the new leaves.
-Also moved my humidifier output away from plants for the same reason as the misting. Water used in humidifier is soft tap water (EC ~140uS, PH ~7.8)
*Note that plant pictures are not necessarily in the same order as above or below*

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Day 18 From Planting:

-Plants showing new growth but also still showing bleaching
-Day 14, another very light feeding was given -> 2G Soft tap water, 7ml Canna A and B, 2.5ml Canna CalMag, PH 5.9, EC ~850uS
-Used a pipette to water the soil around the stem, then regular watering pot for the bulk of the medium, no misting this time
-Day 14, light intensity was lowered to 30% and light height raised to 22inches
-Day 16, obtained a PAR meter, and measured PPFD to be 205µmol/m2/s for the 2 plants showing the least bleaching, and 240µmol/m2/s for the plant showing the most bleaching. This seemed like it was in the acceptable range for this stage of the plants' lives so I did not make any changes
-Since on day 18 the plants still showed bleaching, raised the lights to 27in, and moved them around so that they all read 205µmol/m2/s

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Day 20 From Planting:

-More growth in the last 2 days, but still significant bleaching on one of the plants
-On day 19, a full "light" feed (according to Canna's recommendation) was given to the plants -> 2G Soft tap water, 14ml Canna A and B, 4ml Canna CalMag, PH 5.8, EC 1120uS or 1.12mS
-Used a pipette to water the soil around the stem, then regular watering pot for the bulk of the medium. Probably the last time I use the pipette as the stems will soon be strong enough to survive normal watering
-On day 20, raised up lights to be 30in from canopy height and raised intensity to 40%, PPFD readings were 205µmol/m2/s, 215µmol/m2/s, and 228µmol/m2/s, with each plant getting more light based on how little bleaching it has

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That is where I am so far in the grow. Seems like I have been battling this bleaching (and slight leaf curling) from the start and it is unclear to me if it is actually the light that is causing this. Another idea I had was Cal/Mag toxicity since I decided to buffer an already pre-buffered medium. Still also suspicious of my humidifier since it is constantly running to keep the tent at an acceptable RH level. Any suggestions/feedback are greatly appreciated. Will keep updating this diary as I move along!

-Cheese & Bees

Looking good, maybe try a mercury full spectrum or red shift LED light.
That's what I use every year. Doesn't take long at all.. 21 days in these pictures.. I'm outside and 4 foot to five foot now..hit me up and I'll tell you what I do for fast growth..I can include this week's pictures too.

 

[Phil.D.]

Beautiful Plants!

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Hey there what kind/brand are those sticky traps. I have been using the ribbion traps while great due to length I’m constantly hitting them and having to peel of my arms or shirt.

Blue Sticky's are from "Catchmaster GRO" on amazon, and the yellow ones are "Cleanuper" brand on amazon

Hope this helps growmie!

 

[CheeseAndBees]

Looking good, maybe try a mercury full spectrum or red shift LED light.
That's what I use every year. Doesn't take long at all.. 21 days in these pictures.. I'm outside and 4 foot to five foot now..hit me up and I'll tell you what I do for fast growth..I can include this week's pictures too.

Looking nice!! Will for sure need to try mercury full spectrum or red shift LED lights in a future grow. Thanks for the tips!